C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Why did Chevy not put Z51 on car, but they put Z71 on truck?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-20-2014, 04:41 PM
  #101  
Steve_R
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: Anger Island
Posts: 45,945
Received 3,290 Likes on 1,400 Posts
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default

Originally Posted by Bill17601
I don't have time to explain it to you. Wouldn't make any difference if I did.


Try. Using facts. I'll check back later for your reply.
Old 05-20-2014, 05:23 PM
  #102  
AFVETTE
Team Owner
 
AFVETTE's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 1999
Location: Swansea IL
Posts: 20,076
Received 41 Likes on 28 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by yell03
Actually the base car might have a slight edge at the strip with the softer suspension and lower weight even with the taller geared automatic, we are talking a difference of less than 0.1 either way, the Z51 would most definitely have the edge on a road course.
The current Fast List has a "non-Z51" as the leader of the pack.
Old 05-20-2014, 05:32 PM
  #103  
yell03
Safety Car
 
yell03's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Bucks County PA
Posts: 4,775
Received 471 Likes on 252 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by AFVETTE
The current Fast List has a "non-Z51" as the leader of the pack.
Actually, Snorman has a z51, but he knows how to drive and he ran in great air at ATCO, one of the fastest tracks in the country.

If you gave him a non-z51 he would probably turn the same time.

Z51 autos have 2.73 rear and non-z51 like mine have 2.56, the z51 has slightly more weight and the non-z51 has a softer suspension, pretty much a wash.

Either way, the car is a 11 second performer
Old 05-20-2014, 09:46 PM
  #104  
9ball1104
Racer
 
9ball1104's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2014
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 386
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yell03
Actually the base car might have a slight edge at the strip with the softer suspension and lower weight even with the taller geared automatic, we are talking a difference of less than 0.1 either way, the Z51 would most definitely have the edge on a road course.
Yes, I think you're right. I was trying to make the case for this option based on how the car will be driven, and not because everyone is doing it or because the wheels look cool. There's lots here about how wonderful the Z51 option is, but almost nothing about the tradeoffs, and there are downsides, especially as a DD.

Last edited by 9ball1104; 05-21-2014 at 04:29 AM.
Old 12-02-2014, 12:09 AM
  #105  
Crossed Flags Fan
Melting Slicks
 
Crossed Flags Fan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: Land of the free, home of the brave...
Posts: 3,174
Received 493 Likes on 276 Posts

Default No Z51 badge?

Because it's tacky, that's why.....but then there's the Z06.....
Old 12-02-2014, 12:10 AM
  #106  
cg02175
Racer
 
cg02175's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2014
Posts: 385
Received 10 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

A Z51 badge/sticker would look very tacky on a corvette.
Old 12-02-2014, 12:18 AM
  #107  
themonk
Team Owner
 
themonk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary, AB. There's a reason why white was the only color offered on every year Corvette. Proud Canadian German Jamaican!
Posts: 97,155
Received 1,456 Likes on 799 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09, '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default

they put 4 on it......no front air dam, full width rear spoiler, vented discs and larger rims and tires.
Old 12-02-2014, 12:24 AM
  #108  
Second Vette
Drifting
 
Second Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: Retired to Mississsippi.
Posts: 1,787
Received 642 Likes on 327 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gixxerbill
I am not being pissy here but I just don't get it. People pay extra from a z71 pickup and they get a badge people play extra for zo6 and get a badge yet we pay extra for z51 and get no badge? Why?
I have no idea what you're talking about. LOL
Attached Images  
Old 12-02-2014, 01:06 AM
  #109  
C2367
Drifting
 
C2367's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,322
Received 307 Likes on 133 Posts

Default

When I bought a New 1979 Crovette it had L82 on both sides of the hood.
Old 12-02-2014, 01:55 AM
  #110  
NavyBlue2
Burning Brakes
 
NavyBlue2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2014
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 762
Received 123 Likes on 73 Posts
Default

First thing I do on all of my cars after driving them home from the dealership, is to remove ALL of the dealers' name badging/stickers & their cheap plastic license frames...
Old 12-02-2014, 06:19 AM
  #111  
SRQStingray
Melting Slicks
 
SRQStingray's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: Sarasota Florida
Posts: 2,398
Received 204 Likes on 122 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by mjoacim
Some of you base model guys are a riot. You paid like $6500 extra for a few add ons. I paid $35k more for an entirely different car. That's worth a badge.
Explain to us how you paid $35K more for a Z51. Many non-Z51 owners with loaded up cars paid considerably more than the cost of a 1LT Z51. Moreover, many non-Z51 owners did not want all the performance stuff that comes with the Z51 because they have no plans to track their cars. There are a fair number of Z51 owners who liked the appearance of the Z51 and That's why GM now offers a ZF1 option.

Last edited by SRQStingray; 12-02-2014 at 06:26 AM.
Old 12-02-2014, 07:24 AM
  #112  
newbie2vette
Burning Brakes
 
newbie2vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2010
Location: Lexington Park Maryland
Posts: 799
Received 25 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lggque
If you need to advertise to someone for them to know then they don't need to know. They wont know the difference anyways...... They would be fooled by some clown tacking on a Z51 emblem on a base model.
After seeing an Artic White coupe with that badge, I thought it would represent a unique look. Then I decided not to go with it, for the reason I removed the "Corvette" badge in the rear and replaced it with "Stingray" badge. Which is the major focus for this new generation.

If you are going to put one on, remove the do not put it on top of the stingray emblem. It does not look good, too busy.
Old 12-02-2014, 07:32 AM
  #113  
Bmbarney
Burning Brakes
 
Bmbarney's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: Papillion NE
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Supersonic 427
Badges usually denote a model as in Grand Sport, 427 Convertible, Z06, ZR1. Z51 was and still is a Performance Handling Pkg. It has been an option since 1984, included in the GS's and now it seems for the first time in 30 years it is being called a model. So maybe if it is in fact a model, maybe it should have the Z51 badge. BTW...I still consider Z51 to be an option not a model of Corvette.
This appears as a good answer. In the new ZO6 it says ZO6 on the back spoiler of the wicker bill on a ZO7. There is no ZO7 performance sticker. Also we that know the difference of a base to a Z know the difference with out badges saying Z51. Adding a badge would only bring it to the attention of someone not understanding and may still not get it. I like it cleaner. The ZO6 does not have ZO7 badges and they pay 8k for the perf package. One can always tell by the brakes on a ZO7 or Z51.

Last edited by Bmbarney; 12-02-2014 at 07:41 AM.
Old 12-02-2014, 08:03 AM
  #114  
Randy WS6
Racer
 
Randy WS6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2014
Location: Baxter Kentucky
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

The Z51 Performance Package adds larger wheels (19-inch front, 20-inch rear vs. 18/19- inch) with Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP summer-only tires, a dry sump oil system, electronic limited slip differential, larger front brakes (13.6-inch vs. 12.6-inch) with slotted rotors, performance gear ratios, special suspension components, differential and transmission cooling and an aerodynamic package to reduce lift and improve high-speed stability. Chevy's trick Magnetic Selective Ride Control is optional on the Z51.
Old 12-02-2014, 08:20 AM
  #115  
alienranch
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
alienranch's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2008
Location: Prosper, TX
Posts: 2,162
Received 112 Likes on 69 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SRQStingray
Explain to us how you paid $35K more for a Z51. Many non-Z51 owners with loaded up cars paid considerably more than the cost of a 1LT Z51. Moreover, many non-Z51 owners did not want all the performance stuff that comes with the Z51 because they have no plans to track their cars. There are a fair number of Z51 owners who liked the appearance of the Z51 and That's why GM now offers a ZF1 option.
He's referring to his Z06
Old 12-02-2014, 08:58 AM
  #116  
Tulsaeasyrider
Pro
 
Tulsaeasyrider's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 506
Received 54 Likes on 39 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by gixxerbill
I am not being pissy here but I just don't get it. People pay extra from a z71 pickup and they get a badge people play extra for zo6 and get a badge yet we pay extra for z51 and get no badge? Why?
It's the weight!
Old 12-02-2014, 10:30 AM
  #117  
Bill17601
AIR FORCE VETERAN
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bill17601's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,223
Received 439 Likes on 196 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Steve_R


Try. Using facts. I'll check back later for your reply.
Your serious aren't you? That is truly sad...

Get notified of new replies

To Why did Chevy not put Z51 on car, but they put Z71 on truck?

Old 12-02-2014, 10:45 AM
  #118  
bapd77
Safety Car
 
bapd77's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 4,595
Received 418 Likes on 194 Posts

Default

This thread reminds me why I rarely frequent this forum anymore and why so many people feel the way they do about Corvette owners.
Old 12-02-2014, 10:47 AM
  #119  
bapd77
Safety Car
 
bapd77's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 4,595
Received 418 Likes on 194 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by newbie2vette
After seeing an Artic White coupe with that badge, I thought it would represent a unique look. Then I decided not to go with it, for the reason I removed the "Corvette" badge in the rear and replaced it with "Stingray" badge. Which is the major focus for this new generation.

If you are going to put one on, remove the do not put it on top of the stingray emblem. It does not look good, too busy.
Can I see your rear Stingray badge?
Old 12-02-2014, 02:17 PM
  #120  
wgood
Drifting
 
wgood's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 1,293
Received 73 Likes on 65 Posts

Default

Ok how about a small badge ( I own a Z-51) put on the front grill that you could take off if you didn't like it !!! If you're joe public they can't tell if its a Z-51 or not and I've been to all corvette shows and even other owners ( non-C7) asked me if it was a Z51 !!!!Wayne


Quick Reply: Why did Chevy not put Z51 on car, but they put Z71 on truck?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:18 PM.