Lemon Law - Excessive Oil Consumption - Help
#82
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Allpro - good luck with your lemon law case. Let me know if I can be of any help. I hate that I had this experience, but I now consider myself to be an expert on the subject. You can call me at 941-748-6438 if you would like to discuss your particulars.
mondo540 - thanks for your comments, but I'm still in negotiations with GM. The lemon law states I'm "entitled to be reimbursed for certain "collateral" and "incidental" charges." Each of these are in excess of $5K, and I'm sure GM will try to wiggle out of these payments. I'll keep you all advised of how it works out.
mondo540 - thanks for your comments, but I'm still in negotiations with GM. The lemon law states I'm "entitled to be reimbursed for certain "collateral" and "incidental" charges." Each of these are in excess of $5K, and I'm sure GM will try to wiggle out of these payments. I'll keep you all advised of how it works out.
certified letter out to GM they will have 10 days to fix the problem based on NJ Lemon Law.Amount of days in the shop is not the issue here, the amount of times being fixed in the shop is and I have gone beyond the call with 4 trips already heading for number 5.
I should have done this earlier but love the car but if it sits in the shop during the nice weather and is stored in the winter, I am getting very little use of the car.
#84
Instructor
This is exactly why I would not use a lawyer to do my negotiating. GM offered me MSRP to MSRP, but I declined their offer. I pointed out that the Lemon Law states, under a replacement vehicle, "A reasonably equivalent replacement vehicle is one with an MSRP of not more than 105% of the MSRP of your lemon vehicle." Once I pointed this out to the Mediation Liaison she came back the next day with the 105% approval, which gave me an extra $3,481. I now have a fully paid for 2016 model on order, for a mid-August delivery, with over $1,000 in additional options of my choice.
#86
Used it and it worked out well for me but due to starting the lemon law after I think 12 mo. and or 12,000 miles they charged me for the miles and I paid for any extra equipment but did not have to pay any sales tax / doc or license fees. I was ok with that but it sounds like you got a better offer, be glad.
Hi C2367, you must have been referring to flytrade. I have a 2015 C7.
#87
Here is an update.
I got my C7 back after 32 days at the dealer's service department. They did a major engine rebuild including all new rings and valve guide seals. Now they want me to put 1,000 miles on the car to see if that fixes the problem.
However, I have also started the formal lemon law process, and I'm communicating with the GM Mediation Liaison. It does not matter to me if this engine rebuild fixes the oil consumption problem or not - I want an "exact replacement" C7 and compensation for my mental anguish for the past 4 months. GM is researching this and will get back with me in a few days. I'll keep you posted.
I got my C7 back after 32 days at the dealer's service department. They did a major engine rebuild including all new rings and valve guide seals. Now they want me to put 1,000 miles on the car to see if that fixes the problem.
However, I have also started the formal lemon law process, and I'm communicating with the GM Mediation Liaison. It does not matter to me if this engine rebuild fixes the oil consumption problem or not - I want an "exact replacement" C7 and compensation for my mental anguish for the past 4 months. GM is researching this and will get back with me in a few days. I'll keep you posted.
Compensation for your mental anguish? I honestly hope you never have to face real mental anguish. You won't survive it.
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Allpro - good luck with your lemon law case. Let me know if I can be of any help. I hate that I had this experience, but I now consider myself to be an expert on the subject. You can call me at 941-748-6438[IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]941-748-6438 if you would like to discuss your particulars.
mondo540 - thanks for your comments, but I'm still in negotiations with GM. The lemon law states I'm "entitled to be reimbursed for certain "collateral" and "incidental" charges." Each of these are in excess of $5K, and I'm sure GM will try to wiggle out of these payments. I'll keep you all advised of how it works out.
mondo540 - thanks for your comments, but I'm still in negotiations with GM. The lemon law states I'm "entitled to be reimbursed for certain "collateral" and "incidental" charges." Each of these are in excess of $5K, and I'm sure GM will try to wiggle out of these payments. I'll keep you all advised of how it works out.
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I'm a retired Air Force (Lt. Col.) fighter pilot with 23 years of service to my country. I flew in Vietnam for a year with daily combat missions over North and South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Most recently I drove F-16's as a squadron pilot, instructor pilot, flight examiner and chief test pilot at the plant where they are made in Ft. Worth, Tx.
Now that I turned 71, to get a little excitement back in my life, I got a C7 with manual transmission so I can run through the gears. I guess when I get old I'll have to get the automatic version.
Take my advise - don't get old. It's much better to be young and live on the edge.
#92
Now that this Lemon Law process is all over, I want to let you all know how it turned out.
First of all, I did not have to use the Lemon Law - that is their mediators. I just negotiated with the company. Here are the results.
I am driving a new 2016 model that has an MSRP of $4325 more than my 2015 model.
I also got a check from GM for almost $3400.
I was to pay for the mileage on my 2015 model, but negotiated a $5,000 bill down to $1,000.
I'm getting a refund for the unused portion of my extended 5 year warranty, as well as my tire and wheel warranty. These together total almost $2,000
And all this does not take into consideration the basic depreciation of my 2015 model.
I feel like I'm the self proclaimed Lemon Law expert. That may not be the case, but if I can be of help to anyone else just let me know.
First of all, I did not have to use the Lemon Law - that is their mediators. I just negotiated with the company. Here are the results.
I am driving a new 2016 model that has an MSRP of $4325 more than my 2015 model.
I also got a check from GM for almost $3400.
I was to pay for the mileage on my 2015 model, but negotiated a $5,000 bill down to $1,000.
I'm getting a refund for the unused portion of my extended 5 year warranty, as well as my tire and wheel warranty. These together total almost $2,000
And all this does not take into consideration the basic depreciation of my 2015 model.
I feel like I'm the self proclaimed Lemon Law expert. That may not be the case, but if I can be of help to anyone else just let me know.
#93
Driving back from the museum to CA, i stopped in Oklahoma City to get the 500 mile oil change done. The service writer told me he added 9.8 qts of Mobil 1.
At Spring Mountain last week they did an inspection on my car and it was down 4.5 qts with 6500 miles on it. With no leaks and blackened exhaust tips. Either it didn't get filled correctly at 500 miles or my engine is very thirsty?
Off to the dealer it goes...
At Spring Mountain last week they did an inspection on my car and it was down 4.5 qts with 6500 miles on it. With no leaks and blackened exhaust tips. Either it didn't get filled correctly at 500 miles or my engine is very thirsty?
Off to the dealer it goes...
BTW, '15 Z51 with 7700 miles
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Glad it turned out well for you.
#95
Burning Brakes
Now that this Lemon Law process is all over, I want to let you all know how it turned out.
First of all, I did not have to use the Lemon Law - that is their mediators. I just negotiated with the company. Here are the results.
I am driving a new 2016 model that has an MSRP of $4325 more than my 2015 model.
I also got a check from GM for almost $3400.
I was to pay for the mileage on my 2015 model, but negotiated a $5,000 bill down to $1,000.
I'm getting a refund for the unused portion of my extended 5 year warranty, as well as my tire and wheel warranty. These together total almost $2,000
And all this does not take into consideration the basic depreciation of my 2015 model.
I feel like I'm the self proclaimed Lemon Law expert. That may not be the case, but if I can be of help to anyone else just let me know.
First of all, I did not have to use the Lemon Law - that is their mediators. I just negotiated with the company. Here are the results.
I am driving a new 2016 model that has an MSRP of $4325 more than my 2015 model.
I also got a check from GM for almost $3400.
I was to pay for the mileage on my 2015 model, but negotiated a $5,000 bill down to $1,000.
I'm getting a refund for the unused portion of my extended 5 year warranty, as well as my tire and wheel warranty. These together total almost $2,000
And all this does not take into consideration the basic depreciation of my 2015 model.
I feel like I'm the self proclaimed Lemon Law expert. That may not be the case, but if I can be of help to anyone else just let me know.
Man, I have to wait until October for my z51. That's anguish. I'm married to a woman that hates sex. I doubled down on anguish. No combat though...
#96
Melting Slicks
I have done 3 buybacks before 2 through the BBB and one with a lawyer all resulted in replacement cars, the one with the lawyer total cash back and then some. However the one with the lawyer took three times longer to settle. Let them do the leak down tests to generate more paperwork. Then call the BBB yourself and file.
For the record my 2015 uses very little oil.
For the record my 2015 uses very little oil.
#97
Melting Slicks
OP glad to see you where made whole on the deal.
#98
#99
1. The HUD was tilted about 5 degrees to the right. The dealer said this is a well documented problem, but it's not adjustable and I'll have to live with it. Now this has been corrected on the 16 model.
2. The engine used one quart of oil in the 500 miles. The dealer said this was normal since the engine was in its break-in period. Of course we later found out the oil consumption was a real engine problem.
3. The engine - at least in my opinion - was idling rough. The dealer said this was normal. But now we know it was idling rough because of bad rings in one cylinder and the engine was burning oil as well as fuel.