Lateral G force-Z51 vs non Z51
08-21-2015, 06:50 PM
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Lateral G force-Z51 vs non Z51
Chevy data shows the same maximum lateral g force for the z51 and non z51 at 1.03. With all the z51 additions, you would expect a difference between the two. Does anyone have real world data confirming or disputing this?
08-21-2015, 06:58 PM
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I don't believe that's true. 1 G for non Z51 and 1.03 for the Z51. Anyway it's not much of a difference.
08-21-2015, 07:01 PM
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GM probably does or they wouldn't say it. 
I have no idea how accurate the lateral G display in the HUD is but I've had my non-Z51 right at 1. Not sure how much more I'd want to push beyond that.
I have no idea how accurate the lateral G display in the HUD is but I've had my non-Z51 right at 1. Not sure how much more I'd want to push beyond that.
08-21-2015, 07:03 PM
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I have read both 1.06g & 1.03g for the Z51and base; and 1.03g & 1.00g for the Z51 and base in two different places - either way the difference is 0.03g.
That being said, anywhere but a race track, I have a really hard time consistently seeing above 0.90g on my C7 - mostly because I guess I just don't seem to push it hard enough.
That being said, anywhere but a race track, I have a really hard time consistently seeing above 0.90g on my C7 - mostly because I guess I just don't seem to push it hard enough.
08-21-2015, 08:50 PM
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I have read both 1.06g & 1.03g for the Z51and base; and 1.03g & 1.00g for the Z51 and base in two different places - either way the difference is 0.03g.
That being said, anywhere but a race track, I have a really hard time consistently seeing above 0.90g on my C7 - mostly because I guess I just don't seem to push it hard enough.
That being said, anywhere but a race track, I have a really hard time consistently seeing above 0.90g on my C7 - mostly because I guess I just don't seem to push it hard enough.
08-21-2015, 08:55 PM
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To say nothing of temp. You will be able to get more grip when it's hot. You could push it more now, than, say November...
08-21-2015, 09:19 PM
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08-21-2015, 10:13 PM
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1G is nothing to write home about. Compare that to a F1 (3 to 5g), Indycar (2 to 3g) or Nascar (3 to 4g) race car and those guys experince much greater G-Force.
The G-force gage is useless in the C7 but looks cool only.
08-22-2015, 06:49 AM
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1G is nothing to write home about.
It is for a street car on a road with no banking which is what a skid pad number is.
It is for a street car on a road with no banking which is what a skid pad number is.
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08-22-2015, 12:18 PM
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Run your C7 on a real road racing track at 170 MPH and will you get some real G-Force.
1G is nothing to write home about. Compare that to a F1 (3 to 5g), Indycar (2 to 3g) or Nascar (3 to 4g) race car and those guys experince much greater G-Force.
The G-force gage is useless in the C7 but looks cool only.
1G is nothing to write home about. Compare that to a F1 (3 to 5g), Indycar (2 to 3g) or Nascar (3 to 4g) race car and those guys experince much greater G-Force.
The G-force gage is useless in the C7 but looks cool only.
08-22-2015, 01:22 PM
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NASCAR never sees 3-4 G's unless it's on a highly banked turn.
08-22-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by [B
RedC7AZ[/B];1590324069]NASCAR 3-4Gs is nothing to write home about compared to a rocket lsunch.
That's one hell of a ride.
Originally Posted by [B
Walt White Coupe[/B];1590324412]NASCAR never sees 3-4 G's unless it's on a highly banked turn.
Many of the shorter tracks are high banked.
08-22-2015, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by [B
RedC7AZ[/B];1590324069]NASCAR 3-4Gs is nothing to write home about compared to a rocket lsunch.
That's one hell of a ride.
Originally Posted by [B
Walt White Coupe[/B];1590324412]NASCAR never sees 3-4 G's unless it's on a highly banked turn.
Many of the shorter tracks are high banked.
Many of the oval tracks at 200+ MPH will create 3+ G's for the drivers, not the straights but the corners.
08-22-2015, 06:08 PM
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You are 100% correct.... That's one hell of a ride.
Do some research on NASCAR G-Force data....it's out there. Easy to find.
Many of the shorter tracks are high banked.
Many of the oval tracks at 200+ MPH will create 3+ G's for the drivers, not the straights but the corners.
That's one hell of a ride. Do some research on NASCAR G-Force data....it's out there. Easy to find.
Many of the shorter tracks are high banked.
Many of the oval tracks at 200+ MPH will create 3+ G's for the drivers, not the straights but the corners.
08-22-2015, 06:16 PM
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doesnt matter what the Gs say. IMO it comes down to feel. the Z51 feels better because it has more handling stuff. period.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
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08-22-2015, 09:59 PM
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doesnt matter what the Gs say. IMO it comes down to feel. the Z51 feels better because it has more handling stuff. period.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
08-23-2015, 12:20 AM
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I have done 1.29 Gs in my non-mag Z51 on the track...just playing around, learning the car a little when new
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08-26-2015, 08:36 AM
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doesnt matter what the Gs say. IMO it comes down to feel. the Z51 feels better because it has more handling stuff. period.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
people are so caught up with lap times, 0-60 numbers, G numbers etc... it amazes me.
the OP probably has a non Z51 or is thinking about getting a non Z51 and trying to make himself feel better it. by bring up a small difference in the G numbers.
i would never buy a non z51 because they are to soft, and i am not 70 years old.
08-26-2015, 10:13 AM
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A few years ago, I was at a Vette club track event and had the chance to drive both my C5 Z51 and a non-Z51 C5. The main difference was control and predictability near the edge. Throttle oversteer was simple and controlled on the Z51 while the base car would break away without much warning - and it was a little hairier when it happened. While very few of us will push these kinds of limits on the street, the Z51 gave me confidence I wouldn't have had with the base model after the experience of driving both.
While my new C7 (Nov. museum delivery) will be primarily a DD, it was a no-brainer to order the Z51 option.
While my new C7 (Nov. museum delivery) will be primarily a DD, it was a no-brainer to order the Z51 option.
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