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Old 10-28-2015, 11:52 PM
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Default Wow, I got a deal!

I knew a 10% discount was an awesome deal, but I didn't know how good it was until tonight. I was just looking over copies of the paperwork the dealer sent my bank for the vehicle and saw that it listed how much the dealer paid for the car.

MSRP: $84,045.00
Supplier Pricing: $77,978.50
Invoiced Price: $75,641.00 (this is what I am paying exactly)

So the dealer lost $2,337.50, which is before considering the cost of the employees time who worked on the deal and the cost of title and registration which they are also covering. I figure around a $3,000 loss for them.

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Old 10-28-2015, 11:54 PM
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I'm guessing z06? Be sure to post pictures of your beauty !
Old 10-28-2015, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by efarley
I knew a 10% discount was an awesome deal, but I didn't know how good it was until tonight. I was just looking over copies of the paperwork the dealer sent my bank for the vehicle and saw that it listed how much the dealer paid for the car.

MSRP: $84,045.00
Supplier Pricing: $77,978.50
Invoiced Price: $75,641.00

So the dealer lost $2,337.50, which is before considering the cost of the employees time who worked on the deal and the cost of title and registration which they are also covering. I figure around a $3,000 loss for them.
Dealer also has a 3% hold back. If the Dealer lets you drive the car off his lot he made plenty of money off of you.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:01 AM
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I'm guessing z06? Be sure to post pictures of your beauty !
No, Z51 they weren't offering discounts on Z06 unfortunately.
Old 10-29-2015, 12:11 AM
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I would have to question your thoughts.

I don't believe that dealerships are in business to lose money on a car sale, especially a Corvette C7. In addition yet alone a $3000 loss as you might suspect.

However, if you really think the dealer lost money and you got a good deal that is all that matters.

It is the psychology of the sale. If you think it's true and it is not, it doesn't matter to anyone else except the buyer, and no one person will change your mind or thoughts.

In your mind, you got a good deal.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
I would have to question your thoughts.

I don't believe that dealerships are in business to lose money on a car sale, especially a Corvette C7. In addition yet alone a $3000 loss as you might suspect.

However, if you really think the dealer lost money and you got a good deal that is all that matters.

It is the psychology of the sale. If you think it's true and it is not, it doesn't matter to anyone else except the buyer, and no one person will change your mind or thoughts.

In your mind, you got a good deal.
Umm I have the actual number they paid for the car so... yeah not just in my mind. Math isn't a myth.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:18 AM
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unfortunately they did not show you the backside cash.....but no one sees that - $75.6 for a z51? depends on your options - If your happy - I am happy - besides it's to late now Enjoy and congrats.
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Originally Posted by efarley
I knew a 10% discount was an awesome deal, but I didn't know how good it was until tonight. I was just looking over copies of the paperwork the dealer sent my bank for the vehicle and saw that it listed how much the dealer paid for the car.

MSRP: $84,045.00
Supplier Pricing: $77,978.50
Invoiced Price: $75,641.00

So the dealer lost $2,337.50, which is before considering the cost of the employees time who worked on the deal and the cost of title and registration which they are also covering. I figure around a $3,000 loss for them.
I'm not sure how you came to your conclusion. Nowhere did you state how much you paid for the car. According to the info you posted, though, the supplier price for your car was $2,337.50 higher than invoice. If you paid supplier, there's no way the dealer took a loss.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by efarley
Umm I have the actual number they paid for the car so... yeah not just in my mind. Math isn't a myth.
Very true with the laws on selling - that is the correct invoice they were billed, but what you DONT know is when they sell it they get a kickback- or Spiff from GM.........no worries - enjoy - but they didn't sell a new car and lost money - bad business model!
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
I'm not sure how you came to your conclusion. Nowhere did you state how much you paid for the car. According to the info you posted, though, the supplier price for your car was $2,337.50 higher than invoice. If you paid supplier, there's no way the dealer took a loss.
Lol obviously the dealer = supplier and invoice is the price they're invoicing me.

In layman's terms that means the dealer pays the supplier price and I'm paying the invoice.
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I'm guessing that Z51 had almost every option available for a MSRP of $84,045.00 (and into Z06 territory).

There are some numbers missing from what you provided. Things like Dealer fee, if you paid for extended warranty....the extras. I highly doubt the dealer lost any money. Be easier to think you got a good deal and not think that because you got a good deal, the dealer lost money. I guarantee the dealership was smiling after the deal also.


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No, Z51 they weren't offering discounts on Z06 unfortunately.
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I'm sure you sales person works on commission so he pays the dealership back for a loss? or do they eat even more? common sense applies here......just enjoy the car but if it rolled off the lot... it WAS for profit - backside rebates once its sold - don't take offense - everyone here that bought a car from a dealer - the dealer made money....its acceptable and a given.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by efarley
I knew a 10% discount was an awesome deal, but I didn't know how good it was until tonight. I was just looking over copies of the paperwork the dealer sent my bank for the vehicle and saw that it listed how much the dealer paid for the car.

MSRP: $84,045.00
Supplier Pricing: $77,978.50
Invoiced Price: $75,641.00

So the dealer lost $2,337.50, which is before considering the cost of the employees time who worked on the deal and the cost of title and registration which they are also covering. I figure around a $3,000 loss for them.
Can you list all the options (with prices) you purchased on the vette? I'm having a tough time getting a z51 to price out that high.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:41 AM
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Car invoice is 92.7% of sticker.
Options are 90.9% of sticker
Shipping is a pass through cost
GM pays 3% holdback on every vehicle

90% is a very good deal. Basically the dealer made 2.1% of all the options costs as profit

True dealer cost was around 75,100.

If it is a 2016, you did better than 90% of buyers on here.

for clarification: supplier price is not a number that dealer pays factory. it is a price GM dealer will but doesn't have to sell to GM affiliated buyers (not obligated to participate), such as a goodyear employee who is a "supplier of tires"

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Old 10-29-2015, 12:45 AM
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Since you started this thread how about posting exactly what you paid for the car out the door, everything totalled up.Then everyone can then decide on their own if they think you got a good deal or not.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by efarley
Lol obviously the dealer = supplier and invoice is the price they're invoicing me.

In layman's terms that means the dealer pays the supplier price and I'm paying the invoice.
That is not how it works.
Supplier pricing is special pricing for GM suppliers. Some people can buy at the "Suppliers"" pricing.

Dealer invoice is what the dealer likes you to think they paid for the car, but they also have a 3% hold back which GM pays them.

If you paid dealer invoice, they still made 3% of list price on the deal.
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:50 AM
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I think with the 15s there was about 14% profit in the car at MSRP. Now for the 16s there's supposedly 12%. I'm gonna guess there's money we don't know about as well. So assuming no other fees, they made at least $1600ish on the deal less whatever registration costs they're covering.

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Old 10-29-2015, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Demon
Since you started this thread how about posting exactly what you paid for the car out the door, everything totalled up.Then everyone can then decide on their own if they think you got a good deal or not.
I haven't finalized the deal yet. I'm waiting to inspect the car once it arrives at the dealer. I had to have it courtesy delivered to Oregon. I'm not buying any additional crap from the dealer so it will be the invoice price that I pay.
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Originally Posted by efarley
I haven't finalized the deal yet. I'm waiting to inspect the car once it arrives at the dealer. I had to have it courtesy delivered to Oregon. I'm not buying any additional crap from the dealer so it will be the invoice price that I pay.
You buy from a forum dealer?
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