Grand Sport Announcement Thread
#681
Melting Slicks
I want one of these, admittedly more than I'd want a ZO6.
Easier to put a centri on the LT1, than the LT4.
Now the waiting game for GM to start offering ZO6s parts across the GMPP parts counter, as upgrade kits for other cars.
Easier to put a centri on the LT1, than the LT4.
Now the waiting game for GM to start offering ZO6s parts across the GMPP parts counter, as upgrade kits for other cars.
#682
I don't think many are "hating" vs. people genuinely surprised at this move:
1. Tadge said there would be no C7 GS (but we know he lies often).
2. The C6 GS made more sense as the C6Z and ZR1 were fixed roof and manual-only. GS let you have the targa and vert in an auto. Now the C7Z comes out of the gate with targa, vert, and auto options.
So, many didn't expect a C7 GS. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't initially planed, but a reaction to the C7Z cooling issues and bad press.
1. Tadge said there would be no C7 GS (but we know he lies often).
2. The C6 GS made more sense as the C6Z and ZR1 were fixed roof and manual-only. GS let you have the targa and vert in an auto. Now the C7Z comes out of the gate with targa, vert, and auto options.
So, many didn't expect a C7 GS. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't initially planed, but a reaction to the C7Z cooling issues and bad press.
And I also suspect the GS might have been an afterthought due to overheating issues from the Z. To this day I still have no idea why they thought a small, roots style charger would be a good idea on a large V8.
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RapidC84B (03-01-2016)
#683
Drifting
Under Performance.
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-grand-sport.html
#684
Burning Brakes
The problem with that is the LT1 is not forged so you wont make much more power safely then a CAI Z06. To forge the LT1 you'll spend enough to where you could have started with a Z. I've seen several stock LT1 cars with what was thought as "safe" boost blow engines. If I was going to get a GS and wanted 625-700 hp I'd go with the Katech 427 (wonder how much lighter the GS is?), but if you want more I think your better of starting with the Z and its forged engine.
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thegame (03-05-2016)
#685
Pro
Wow 30 pages! I was reading all of them. But wishing for one of those kinky compare the options charts.
JMHO seems that it is basically a Z06 body with Z51 guts plus a very few other things. So a 06 body is heavyer then z51 with the same hp but wider tires and less than. 5 sec increase in speed. So it is a z51 with z06 But has BADGES that a z51 lacks and GS stripes that a 06 don't have. Sounds like a replacement for the Z51 to me. I looked at a.Z06 and to me it looked like good old fashioned FACTORY-INSTALLED fender flares not unlike Ecklers kits years ago. Yes it will sell, but if they had put nice fancy badging on the z51 it would have sold even better. People in the USA like badges on hot cars were as people in Europe like no badges on hot cars. I am happy with my Model Z51 but would like badges for what I chose. Have not seen price yet or if z51 is dead model. .... iF so then it will be a collectible.
JMHO seems that it is basically a Z06 body with Z51 guts plus a very few other things. So a 06 body is heavyer then z51 with the same hp but wider tires and less than. 5 sec increase in speed. So it is a z51 with z06 But has BADGES that a z51 lacks and GS stripes that a 06 don't have. Sounds like a replacement for the Z51 to me. I looked at a.Z06 and to me it looked like good old fashioned FACTORY-INSTALLED fender flares not unlike Ecklers kits years ago. Yes it will sell, but if they had put nice fancy badging on the z51 it would have sold even better. People in the USA like badges on hot cars were as people in Europe like no badges on hot cars. I am happy with my Model Z51 but would like badges for what I chose. Have not seen price yet or if z51 is dead model. .... iF so then it will be a collectible.
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B-STOCK (03-02-2016)
#689
Melting Slicks
The problem with that is the LT1 is not forged so you wont make much more power safely then a CAI Z06. To forge the LT1 you'll spend enough to where you could have started with a Z. I've seen several stock LT1 cars with what was thought as "safe" boost blow engines. If I was going to get a GS and wanted 625-700 hp I'd go with the Katech 427 (wonder how much lighter the GS is?), but if you want more I think your better of starting with the Z and its forged engine.
Getting ZO6 power or better will be a cake walk for a procharged LT1...and since it's not a Roots Supercrapper, and is instead a much more efficient blower design it doesn't generate as much heat, and is a much more linear power delivery.
It's just a matter of tuning. The aftermarket will catch up, and exceed the factory cars in power output.
And hell, even if you didn't want to get boost, a cam upgrade, and long tubes still does wonders for an LT1.
Roots blowers come with a host of problems, especially undersized ones that I'd rather avoid entirely. That aside...the C7 is better than I will ever be on the track and the most effective mod you could do for one is the driver mod
#690
Drifting
#693
Le Mans Master
This is the way it had to be done. If the current car would've been called a ZR1, it would've been arguably improved, but also lower performance in some ways. Calling it a Z06 though, was a clear improvement over the prior car...but this is a ZR1 formula, with aero added. The position of the models shifted, and now there is room above the Z06 for a ZR1, but it'll certainly take on a different form.
The C7 Grand Sport IS the C6 Z06 successor in every way. The issue was, due to the reorganization of how C7 is built, funded, etc...there could be no follow up to the LS7...it wasn't feasible. Owners aren't going to accept a C7Z downgrade either...so, they took the ZR1 formula and called it C7 Z06.
Whatever...doesn't matter. I'm a hardened Z06 lover and I as much as I love the aero, the design and platform of C7Z, I don't like the supercharger. I don't mind the downgrade in power from C6Z...I can fill that gap easily. Now the question is, WHAT will it cost. If I can put this car at my house for 65k, this is my next Corvette 100%.
#694
Advanced
500 HP?, I read that they were keeping the LT1 and 460 HP. Sounds like a great idea but I will still order the Z06 in Oct.
#695
Team Owner
From Day 1 I have not been a C7 lover; I like the styling of my/the C6 much better, although the technological and mechanical improvements of the C7 are terrific additions. However, I think it's logical to come out with an "in-the-middle" GS model--as they did with the C6--for those buyers who aren't looking for a "***** to the wall" Z06/07 but want something more than the base car. Having said that, I go back to my opening statement: the C7 styling is just too over the top/edgy for me, AND I find the "Richard Petty Blue"and black color combo just garish and another example of where the stylists are just too far out there and cheapening the car's image.
Last edited by JustinStrife; 03-02-2016 at 12:58 AM.
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redlined (03-02-2016)
#697
Instructor
The real question around this car is how much does it weigh? I love Z06s... but 3,500+ is way too much for a 2 seater. Hell my M4 is lighter which just shouldn't be the case. I love how light my C6 Z06 was and hopefully they get closer to the 3,200 mark with the GS. At the end of the day, it's a great car! Will love to take one out for a test drive.
#698
Pro
2017 Grandsport
GM dropped the ball again! Thank GOD!. I was reluctant about ordering my 2016 Zo6 thinking they may build a 17 Grandsport with an LS7 (427) That would have been my choice over a Zo6. They didn't and I'm relieved,, my Zo6 will be here soon.
#699
Pro
I assume that you have not put down your $100+- K yet. If you had, then you would fully understand why so many are concerned about the devaluing of their purchase by Corvette offering a car that looks 99% just like your purchase but is sold at a much lower price.
The C6 Z06 was killed off by just this same offering and resales plummeted.
I have owned 9 new Vetts since 1984 with three (3) of them being Z06s. I seriously doubt that I will ever consider a tenth one.
The C6 Z06 was killed off by just this same offering and resales plummeted.
I have owned 9 new Vetts since 1984 with three (3) of them being Z06s. I seriously doubt that I will ever consider a tenth one.
Last edited by mrbeautie; 03-02-2016 at 02:47 AM.
#700
Team Owner
The problem with that is the LT1 is not forged so you wont make much more power safely then a CAI Z06. To forge the LT1 you'll spend enough to where you could have started with a Z. I've seen several stock LT1 cars with what was thought as "safe" boost blow engines. If I was going to get a GS and wanted 625-700 hp I'd go with the Katech 427 (wonder how much lighter the GS is?), but if you want more I think your better of starting with the Z and its forged engine.