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Will the Z51 option be deleted for 2017 now that we have a Grand Sport?

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Old 03-03-2016, 04:08 PM
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I like the 911 and Cayman , Boxster cars but don't want a mid or rear motor car . Yes that also means the rumored c 8 won't work for me
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Im not just a driver/ owner of a Corvette, im a lifer. I care about the current and future success of the BRAND Corvette. Not everyone wants a widebody as their performance focused model and so the Z51 Narrow body should live on. And if Corvette can continue to tastefully expand its range through mutiple model offerings so that it appeals to a wider range of buyers without losing its core focus then so be it. Whatever it takes to sustain the Brand.
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Originally Posted by Bui
Wanna know whats funny? Corvette > all of those froggy-mobiles
I wont argue with a fellow Corvette owner on an online Corvette forum about 911 superiority because that'd be foolish. Therefore I agree with you that for most if not all of us here Corvette>911 is a shared thought.
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Originally Posted by NiteriderFRC
I wont argue with a fellow Corvette owner on an online Corvette forum about 911 superiority because that'd be foolish. Therefore I agree with you that for most if not all of us here Corvette>911 is a shared thought.
Ahhh...

Porsche sells more sports cars worldwide than Corvette... gets 50-70% more revenue per unit than Corvette, and the Corvette outperforms Porsche in virtually every measurable category of performance.

As a marketing guy, maybe you'd be smart to figure out WTF they are doing?
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Originally Posted by jcp911s
Ahhh...

Porsche sells more sports cars worldwide than Corvette... gets 50-70% more revenue per unit than Corvette, and the Corvette outperforms Porsche in virtually every measurable category of performance.

As a marketing guy, maybe you'd be smart to figure out WTF they are doing?
That's because you're basing those numbers off old records. If I'm dropping big bucks on car, I want it to have not only speed/power, but also luxury features as well. Up until the release of the C7, corvette interiors were probably on par with Honda. Factor in "prestige" and it was a no brainer.... anyone would have taken a Porsche.

Porsche Posts a Record Month, Corvette Still Outsells Their Cars
- See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/porsch....LqSvUhdu.dpuf

The C7 is in my opinion, the first Corvette model that GM finally "done right."

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Originally Posted by PolishDude
dont agree, give me any of the bottom two rows over a corvette
I was thinking 3 rows....

Speaking of the "P" car....was looking at older 930 Turbos online....WTF?

Prices are through the roof!
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Originally Posted by NiteriderFRC
Im not just a driver/ owner of a Corvette, im a lifer. I care about the current and future success of the BRAND Corvette. Not everyone wants a widebody as their performance focused model and so the Z51 Narrow body should live on. And if Corvette can continue to tastefully expand its range through mutiple model offerings so that it appeals to a wider range of buyers without losing its core focus then so be it. Whatever it takes to sustain the Brand.
I guess that maybe they keep it this year, and see how the ordering goes, if not many Z51 are sold then it gets dropped.

That's how I'd do it, but I'm not a decision maker at GM, so... who knows what they will do. At least till the end of april.
Old 03-03-2016, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lrobe22
Z51 will stay for now.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by freddieg
The z51 model will still be available.
Z51 is an option NOT a model.....here, straight out of the dealer brochure...


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Old 03-03-2016, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jameyturner
z51 is an option not a model.....here, straight out of the dealer brochure...


IT IS ITS OWN MODEL SORRY FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS but the model might be gone.

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Old 03-03-2016, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
Has anyone a clue as to how much the GS will cost?
my guess, take the price of a 3LT Z51 then add the cost of the Z07 package, that should be pretty close.
Old 03-04-2016, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
IT IS ITS OWN MODEL SORRY FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS but the model might be gone.
I hope everyone understands Z06 isn't even it's own model in reality. It's just a "trim level"

At the very best Z51 is a "trim level," but more than likely it's an option (due to it having an RPO code). The fact there is an ordering model in the GM system means nothing.

As I've stated like 10000 times, Cadillac has each trim level be it's own ordering model, and they even split ordering models for RWD versus AWD.

Furthermore, a "model" is defined by the government. As in the "make" and the "model" of your car. All Corvettes are make Chevrolet and model Corvette. Then comes your trim, is it 1LT, Z51 1LT or Z06 1LZ, etc...

I mean, really guys this is simple. What baffles me are three things:

1. People care (I literally am only posting because I'm trying to teach people how the auto industry works seeing that I work in it).
2. The lack of logic of 99% of people on the internet (although maybe in general I give the common man way to much intellectual credit).
3. The fact that no one here actually understands the difference between "marketing" and "manufacturing" (which ordering is a part of)

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Old 03-04-2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
IT IS ITS OWN MODEL SORRY FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS but the model might be gone.
OPTION, sorry for hurting your feelings.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:17 AM
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The Z51 option will most likely be dropped and the GS option replacing it with a higher price, hence more profits.
Old 03-04-2016, 09:14 AM
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Isn't that basically what GM did in 2010 with the C6, Grand Sport in Z51 out?
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LS3 MN6
I hope everyone understands Z06 isn't even it's own model in reality. It's just a "trim level"

At the very best Z51 is a "trim level," but more than likely it's an option (due to it having an RPO code). The fact there is an ordering model in the GM system means nothing.

As I've stated like 10000 times, Cadillac has each trim level be it's own ordering model, and they even split ordering models for RWD versus AWD.

Furthermore, a "model" is defined by the government. As in the "make" and the "model" of your car. All Corvettes are make Chevrolet and model Corvette. Then comes your trim, is it 1LT, Z51 1LT or Z06 1LZ, etc...

I mean, really guys this is simple. What baffles me are three things:

1. People care (I literally am only posting because I'm trying to teach people how the auto industry works seeing that I work in it).
2. The lack of logic of 99% of people on the internet (although maybe in general I give the common man way to much intellectual credit).
3. The fact that no one here actually understands the difference between "marketing" and "manufacturing" (which ordering is a part of)
I've actually been involved in the Caddy side and that is ridiculous. This does show a great degree of inconsistency.

I'm going to agree that they are all corvettes and anything else really is kind of irrelevant. In michigan, the titles say Corvette as the model regardless of the trim or options. Z06 included.

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I don't think Z51 will go away. I think there will be enough differential between them(content and money). The Z51 is a pretty comprehensive and capable package already.

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Old 03-04-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by VY427
IMO, the GS will replace the Z51. The Z51 is the Stingray's optional track optimized package. The GS renders it unnecessary. The base Stingray still exists and is available with Z51-look appearance options and Mag-Ride, which is enough to satisfy most base model buyers.
That's my guess as well. But it's really all just guesses. We will find out when GM announces the details for 2017 (probably at the NCM bash)
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
IT IS ITS OWN MODEL SORRY FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS but the model might be gone.
Dave, seriously Z51 is an option, not a model I know this for a fact. I ordered a 2016 Stingray with the Z51 option, along with Mag ride, A8, CF dash, Twilight Blue Design Package. Seriously, it an option, model.
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Originally Posted by MAKC7
The Z51 option will most likely be dropped and the GS option replacing it with a higher price, hence more profits.
since that's exactly what they did with the C6 when the GS became available. If it made sense then, it makes sense now. Time will tell.


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