The Geezer's Navtool installation - CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion

Notices
C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

The Geezer's Navtool installation

Reply

 
 
 
Old 03-30-2016, 08:05 PM
  #1  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default The Geezer's Navtool installation

A new product is coming out with delivery in December (actually delayed until late March 2106). It is called NAVtool. This product will allow a front view camera to be hooked up to the NAV screen. In preparation for NAVtool, I have mounted a front camera in my grill. I've threaded the power & video leads into the engine bay and I await the delivery of the NAVtool. For power, I will use the "Micro Add-a-circuit" in the front fuse box as there or many 12v switched fuses to double tap.

Here are pictures of the mounted front camera:










Large pictures afford the best detail of the installation. Drilling 2 holes is a non event so I didn't see any reason to take pictures. Well, maybe I should have documented the hole drilling as I got a question on it.

First, you don't need to remove the grill to mount the camera.

I made a paper template of the hole/base and scotch taped it to the grill. I then used masking tape om the next couple of lower sections to protect from touching the grill with by drill. I then used a 1/16 drill bit to make the initial holes and then used a 3/8(?) drill bit to enlarge the holes. Go slow, it drills very easy, (plastic). dropped in the screws (the have a hex hole in the head and used an allen wrench for the top of the screw and held the nut on the bottom to get it started. I had to modify the allen wrench (it was old and I had a couple) by cutting it off to shorten the length to fit on top of the screw as there is not much space for a wrench or screwdriver. I used an acorn nut with the nylon inside to lock the screw and keep it secure.










I put black wire loom on the wires behind the camera to hide a red plug (power) and a yellow plug (video). Everything is wrapped and tapped black to hide all the wiring behind the grill.

The camera is made by "Pyle".
Model PLCM38FRV
170 degree field of view
Color

It can be optioned for front or rear view and has optional grid lines. I wired the red & white wires for the grid and did not connect the blue option wire for the "reverse" picture that is needed in a rear view camera. A good ground is on the fender next to the air filter. Add an additional M8 X 1.25 nut to the existing ground.

The video lead will come in to the cabin behind the rubber insulation at the front of the passenger door. I will add pictures to this thread as I progress along in the project.

The NAVtool is plug and play. The Navigation unit HMI in the 2014 & 2015 Corvettes is located above the driver's side kick panel.

3/2/2016 Update.


Ok, I got restless! I tapped the power today in the engine bay fuse box. I used a switched 12v source and tapped the power with a "Micro" tap a circuit.

I used a convenient fuse (#36) that had 12v switched and fused it all up.



I ran the power lead into the fuse box and notched out a small access slot in the rim of the fuse box so the wire wouldn't be crimped. This picture shows the notch.



This picture shows the wire resting in the notch and the wire is perfectly flat with the top edge of the rim.




I also snaked the video lead in from the engine bay inside to the interior of the car. I ran it in the passenger door side access point and then I snaked the video under the dash over to the driver's side kick panel. I have 12-14" of extra video wire ready for the hookup. A good ground is on the fender next to the air filter. Add an additional M8 X 1.25 nut to the existing ground.

Now, all that is needed are the end pieces to show up at the vendor, the vendor can install the end pieces and then ship the units out to the buyers. This next part of the installation should be 1hour minutes tops to get it finished.

Well, it arrived and my 1 hour was actually 1:15 but there was a complication. Short story, there was a bad crimp connection on the power lead in the fuse box and I had to cut it out and make a soldered connection with shrink wrap to cover it. Front camera works perfect for the last 5 tries so I think that was the issue. If not, I'll refasten the ground and get rid of the crimped connection. Chasing that out made the install 3 hours and 20 minutes.


Here's the stuff that we need to install:




OK, let's finish up. Some of these pictures show a white car and we all know I have torch red. It was silly to take new pictures that showed the same stuff so I'll use the "library of pictures".

Here are the blue leads for the HMI to Navtool connection. You can't mess this up. Each connector only fits 1 socket and not only that, the sockets are the matching color to the plugs.



Here are the leads for the input to the Navtool.



There are 5 RCA plugs They are grouped 3 into a black connector and 2 into a black connector.

The Group of three is labeled thus:

Video input 1 = Front Camera
Video input 2 = Left Side Camera
Video output = Right Side Camera

The Group of two is labeled thus:

Video Input 1 = Audio red
Video Input 2 = Audio black

The group of 2 audio is used in connection with an AUX jack and one of these: http://www.discountcarstereo.com/ima...2.5-RCA3_m.jpg

If you don't have an AUX jack, you can do blue tooth audio streaming.


OK, let's tear the car apart!



Remove the piece of trim above the kick panel at the passenger post and then remove the kick panel




Remove the panel directly under the glove box by pulling out 2 "push pins". NOTE!! There is a light in this piece that you need to twist out and put back in after you start reassembly.



Pull back the carpet to expose the BCM cover plate.




Before you remove the 3 ten mm fasteners, look at the bottom right corner of the cover. There is a bundle of wire connected to the cover. Use a pair of long nosed pliers to reach in, grab the black plastic push pin and pry the pin out of the cover. The pin will need to be pushed toward the door side of the car. When you have the wire bundle loose, then take off the 3 10mm fasteners and remove the BCM cover.



Reach around the left side of the wires and get behind the big bundle. The white 20 pin plug is back there and you need to unplug it and bring it out to the front. Look at your 20 green wire jumper. The white plug on it is the same as the plug you need to find and pull to the front.



Now, plug in the 20 green wire plug into the audio receiver and then connect the white plug to the end of the 20 wire green bundle that came with the navtool.

Now fish the small 4 wire connector (red, black, yellow, white.) that connects to the video lead bundle through the back of the console and get that small black plug FROM the driver's side over to the passenger side. When you accomplish that, plug in the black connected to the black plug that is in the middle of the 20 wire green bundle. WATCH your connection it'll fit either way BUT ONLY ONE way will allow the locking clasp to engage.



This picture shows the completed 20 connection, the 4 wire connection and it actually shows the "light" hanging down that was inserted in the panel under the glove box.




This picture shows the video feed coming into the cabin under the rubber seal.




This picture shows were I finally mounted the navtool. It is up in the area to the left of my brake pedal and we wire tied it into place. We wire tied all of the wires and even supported the HDMI wire with a wire tie.


The long run of 4 wires from the passenger audio receiver plugs into the navtool. The blue wire from the HMI runs into the blue wire from navtool to the navtool. The 2nd blue wire comes from the navtool and plugs into the original blue wire hole on the HMI.

We connected everything and left it on the floor. Started up the car and tested. It worked initially. Then I lost the video from the camera but I believe I found that as a faulty crimped power wire in the engine fuse box (that was mentioned earlier in this post.). Except for that damn bad power crimp, we had the install done and buttoned up in 1 hour and 15 minutes. We're talking pure **** wire routing, with neat wiring, no slack, everything wire tied in place to maintain neatness. You know, **** stuff.


Here's the video to prove it works!




The grid in the picture shows at the farthest grid at 8" the middle bar in the grid is 4.5", the closest grid line is 3".


Another item, the iPhone was tested this AM. I plugged it in and immediately got my IPhone screen. I hit an APP and got this to prove that it works.




The HDMI cable I used was this:
Amazon.com: AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 6.5 Feet (2 Meters) Supports Ethernet, 3D, 4K and Audio Return: Electronics Amazon.com: AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 6.5 Feet (2 Meters) Supports Ethernet, 3D, 4K and Audio Return: Electronics

The HDMI adapter to the iPhone I used was this:
Amazon.com: Lightning Digital AV Adapter for iPhone 5, 5C, 5S, 6, 6 Plus / iPad Retina Display, mini, mini 2, mini 3, Air, Air 2 / iPod touch 5th Generation, 6th Generation: Electronics Amazon.com: Lightning Digital AV Adapter for iPhone 5, 5C, 5S, 6, 6 Plus / iPad Retina Display, mini, mini 2, mini 3, Air, Air 2 / iPod touch 5th Generation, 6th Generation: Electronics

This is how I ran my HDMI cord for my iPhone connection. From the Navtool, I removed the side trim on the console and tucked the wire up into the console area and back to the console. I then used a razor knife and slowly cut a hole in the console to accommodate the HDMI plug. If you take off the trim, notice on the VERY front "tab" it needs to go in the slot and then slide forward to catch the "tit" sticking out on the attachment piece. Then the rest of the trim piece slaps back into the slots quite easily.








Major mad props to Bob Mclennon who came over to help. Between us two gimps, we probably 3/4 of a real mechanic to work. Not too bad for a couple of geezers.


Elmer

Last edited by eboggs_jkvl; 04-03-2016 at 07:11 PM.
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 19 Users Say Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
360Lemans (05-06-2016), A471133 (03-31-2016), Art17 (06-17-2018), badhabit_wb (09-16-2016), BlackMoon (07-04-2017), brentil (04-24-2016), C7Joy (03-31-2016), edved (05-23-2018), FYREANT (02-11-2018), golden2husky (04-02-2016), JRYELLOWCORVETTE (09-05-2016), Landru (04-26-2017), mdb917 (03-22-2018), Mike Mercury (02-12-2018), red1996lt4 (06-16-2018), robert miller (03-30-2016), Scoobydoobydoo (03-30-2016), sTz (10-22-2017), The Yav (12-31-2017)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:24 PM
  #2  
Scoobydoobydoo
CF Senior Member
 
Scoobydoobydoo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2014
Location: Monroe Twsp NJ
Posts: 1,245
Thanked 184 Times in 163 Posts
Default

Thanks for the write up Elmer, much appreciated !!!
Scoobydoobydoo is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Scoobydoobydoo For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:28 PM
  #3  
Ed'sC7
CF Senior Member
 
Ed'sC7's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2015
Location: LI New York
Posts: 275
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Nice work. Did you need to remove the grill to install the camera. If not, how did you get the cables into the engine compartment?
Ed'sC7 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ed'sC7 For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:31 PM
  #4  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Ed'sC7 View Post
Nice work. Did you need to remove the grill to install the camera. If not, how did you get the cables into the engine compartment?

Coat hanger wire! Worked like a champ. The grill was not removed to install the camera.


Elmer
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:41 PM
  #5  
Rguy271
CF Senior Member
 
Rguy271's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Red Bank NJ
Posts: 693
Thanked 101 Times in 73 Posts
Default

Nice write up! Got me excited so I checked my ten day old tracking number from navtool.

Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
Thursday, 03/31/2016, By End of Day

YES!
Rguy271 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rguy271 For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:44 PM
  #6  
mendeldl
CF Senior Member
 
mendeldl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 302
Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts
Default

Thanks Elmer. I'm waiting patiently to do the same install!
mendeldl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mendeldl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:48 PM
  #7  
Skidplate
CF Senior Member
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Skidplate's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: Bay Area CA
Posts: 943
Thanked 186 Times in 112 Posts
Default

Thanks for the post. Are the distance guidelines built into the camera or are they part of the NavTool?
Skidplate is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Skidplate For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:55 PM
  #8  
robert miller
CF Senior Member
 
robert miller's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: cookeville tennessee
Posts: 25,525
Thanked 969 Times in 881 Posts
Default ttt

Elmer, man thanks for the write up and pic,s on this job. I am so glad it works for me now just the camera for the front for now. I will be putting one on each side of the car also for to see & cause it can do it.

But also you drove it and it come on auto when you got under 5 mph.
robert miller is online now  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to robert miller For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 08:59 PM
  #9  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Skidplate View Post
Thanks for the post. Are the distance guidelines built into the camera or are they part of the NavTool?
The grid lines are part of the camera. You can option for yes/no grid lines and you can reverse the image in case the camera is being used as a rear view. It is explained in the instructions that come with the camera.


Elmer
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 09:00 PM
  #10  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Rguy271 View Post
Nice write up! Got me excited so I checked my ten day old tracking number from navtool.

Scheduled Delivery Updated To:
Thursday, 03/31/2016, By End of Day

YES!
WOOT!!!!


Elmer
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-30-2016, 10:14 PM
  #11  
Woodson
CF Senior Member
 
Woodson's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary Alberta
Posts: 4,389
Thanked 671 Times in 410 Posts
Default

Nice write up. Glad it all worked out in the end and that your perseverance paid off.
Woodson is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Woodson For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 01:26 AM
  #12  
Veterosa1
CF Senior Member
 
Veterosa1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2016
Posts: 152
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Default

You got it to work, great write up Elmer
Veterosa1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Veterosa1 For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 07:00 AM
  #13  
Carnut1
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Aug 2011
Location: Philly Suburbs PA
Posts: 302
Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts
Default

That is great work with the cameras, how about iphone mirroring. Did that work?
Carnut1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Carnut1 For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 07:04 AM
  #14  
C7Joy
CF Senior Member
 
C7Joy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2010
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 10,440
Thanked 162 Times in 144 Posts
Default

Nice job and nicely illustrated write up. Well done. I wish I had your ambition.
C7Joy is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to C7Joy For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 07:38 AM
  #15  
WKMCD
CF Senior Member
 
WKMCD's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2004
Location: Haymarket VA
Posts: 13,767
Thanked 62 Times in 41 Posts
Default

I hope you can get the IPhone mirroring working. That's really the main reason I'm interested in this.
WKMCD is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WKMCD For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 08:31 AM
  #16  
BRomanelli
CF Senior Member
 
BRomanelli's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2015
Location: Matthews NC
Posts: 185
Thanked 21 Times in 16 Posts
Default NavTool Install

Elmer
Great write up and pictures. I am glad you didn't need to get cut out of the car after the install and hope the back is better.
Let me ask this. Was any disassembly needed on the drivers side or is everything pretty much exposed under the dash. Is the only thing happening on the drivers side the plug in of the plugs?? I will be installing mine Sunday hopefully. Second, you mentioned audio lines. I can't think of why I'd want audio for this can you help me out. Am I missing something??


For those of you that want to use side cameras the side marker lights can be utilized with out changing the functionality of the light. The one shown has the same Boyo camera in it that was used in the front grill. The cameras come with three mounting options. The one shown is for face mounting. This requires a larger hole by the camera snaps in real tight. You can actually use a much smaller hole to just expose the camera front and then silicone it in place.
Thanks!
Bob
Attached Images  

Last edited by BRomanelli; 03-31-2016 at 08:50 AM.
BRomanelli is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to BRomanelli For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 09:53 AM
  #17  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by BRomanelli View Post
Elmer
Great write up and pictures. I am glad you didn't need to get cut out of the car after the install and hope the back is better.
Let me ask this. Was any disassembly needed on the drivers side or is everything pretty much exposed under the dash. Is the only thing happening on the drivers side the plug in of the plugs?? I will be installing mine Sunday hopefully. Second, you mentioned audio lines. I can't think of why I'd want audio for this can you help me out. Am I missing something??


For those of you that want to use side cameras the side marker lights can be utilized with out changing the functionality of the light. The one shown has the same Boyo camera in it that was used in the front grill. The cameras come with three mounting options. The one shown is for face mounting. This requires a larger hole by the camera snaps in real tight. You can actually use a much smaller hole to just expose the camera front and then silicone it in place.
Thanks!
Bob
The driver's side disassembly could have been untouched for the install. I took off the kick panel to "explore" the area behind the kick panel for space to mount the navtool. There is absolutely NO SPACE behind the driver's side kick panel to place the navtool. The spot we finally settled on was perfectly sized to accommodate the navtool and the wiring. The spot also afforded easy wire tie application to insure a solid mount and no rattles. My car is the A6, so I'm not sure if that space is available on the M7. Some M7 guys should pipe in here and confirm/deny that the space is available on the M7 cars.


My back is feeling a tad better. I had help yesterday from another old gear head. I figure between the 2 of us we totaled about 3/4 of a shade tree mechanic. We got by even though both of us have/had back issues!

Elmer

Last edited by eboggs_jkvl; 06-05-2017 at 04:16 PM.
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018), Norm66 (03-31-2016)
Old 03-31-2016, 10:09 AM
  #18  
Norm66
CF Senior Member
 
Norm66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Mooresville NC
Posts: 1,462
Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Default Phone Mirroring

Originally Posted by WKMCD View Post
I hope you can get the IPhone mirroring working. That's really the main reason I'm interested in this.
I just posted the following in the thread I initiated re. NavTool:

I just received an email response from Vitaliy regarding phone mirroring. He said that people were apparently trying to connect their phones wirelessly. You either have to connect your phone with an HDMI cable to the NavTool or use some other device like the Netgear Push2TV which is connected to the NavTool with an HDMI cable. Then your phone should mirror wirelessly. I hope this helps. I will be connecting my NavTool in the next few days. I can then let you know if the Push2TV connection works.

Norm
Norm66 is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Norm66 For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018), WKMCD (03-31-2016)
Old 03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
  #19  
eboggs_jkvl
Tech Contributor
Thread Starter
 
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 9,718
Thanked 813 Times in 462 Posts
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Post #1 has been updated to show that the HDMI cord connection to my iPhone works great! I did the newspaper thing to capture a current headline on Drudge.




Elmer
eboggs_jkvl is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to eboggs_jkvl For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)
Old 03-31-2016, 10:43 AM
  #20  
Scoobydoobydoo
CF Senior Member
 
Scoobydoobydoo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2014
Location: Monroe Twsp NJ
Posts: 1,245
Thanked 184 Times in 163 Posts
Default

Great work Elmer but got a question regarding this

"Now fish the small wire wire connector (red, black, yellow, white.) that connects to the video lead bundle through the back of the console and get that small black plug FROM the driver's side over to the passenger side.'

Is the red/black/white/yellow harness part of the cars wiring ? It looks like it's coming from a wire loom. Also, the small black plug on the drivers side, is that part of the Navtool unit?
Scoobydoobydoo is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Scoobydoobydoo For This Useful Post:
Art17 (06-17-2018)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: The Geezer's Navtool installation


Sponsored Ads
Vendor Directory

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: