Steve Snake Driver

The carbon fiber wheels on the GT350R would seem to me to be a major PITA. Not because of their design or any concerns on failure; getting a reputable shop to swap tires on those wheels would seem to me to be a major concern. I don't know what their gouge tolerance is before a wheel is unserviceable, but it would concern me. With track time and Sport Cup II's, they won't last all that long before you need new tires. Just a thought.

C7_Z06

Spot in. Exactly.

And Congrats! Btw which color did you get? I have an Avalanche Gray Track Pack and although my Z06 is faster/more powerful.... the GT350 is much more fum to drive and puts power down really well without higher risk of losing control and eating a wall. The GT350's sound is bar none absolutely much better too.
Fair enough as that's your opinion but I would debate against that because the new Shelby GT350 is a n axtual Ford production limited factory car.. not an aftermarket post-title modification like Saleens, Parnelli versions, Roush versions, Shelby American iterations, etc. The GT350 will depreciate at a much slower pace than any C7. You can take that to the bank.

Yup the Boss cars do hold wel... I sold my '12 B302 with 7k miles last year for 36.5K and I bought it new back a couple of years ago for 41k. Not bad. Andhe replacement is the new Shelby.... well worth the upgrade.

RC000E

It's unfortunate when something truly disruptive gets built by an OEM, then the dealers gouge it out and essentially slow sales. The Viper was a big victim of this, and it's lucky that Corvette production is high enough that these dealers don't do the same. You see a mid-engine or "Zora" variant hit the shelves though, and you'll have the same repeat.

The GT350R is quite a machine, and watching them race in Continental tire series...I mean, it's nice to see them there competing hardcore with Porsche and other manufacturers. It's a shame that the enthusiasts, the Americans who have helped build that company, can't enjoy the fruits of their dedication because dealers block the opportunity.

robert miller

LT1 Z51

I understand everyone can make a living, but some of the gouging by these dealers is ridiculous.

It should be very simple, charge what you want, but if it doesn't sell within 3-6 months then you have to sell to for MSRP. Clearly you've chosen a price the market will not bear. But dealers hold firm, personally I'd like to kick those guys in the junk.

LSRX

As a Corvette guy, obviously I like the Corvette better, but you have to admit that Ford did some cool stuff with their new FPC engine. Government Motors is a bit boring sometimes.

That said if the new Ford GT, (NOT Mustang GT) were 100K or less I would NOT be driving a Corvette now.

I guess that is Ford's achilles though, they make cool stuff and the dealers mark them up so they don't sell.

04DarkShadowGT

Maybe I am not a Corvette convert yet, but I would take the GT350R over any C7 outside a Z06. My god the exhaust note is just unreal in person. Sounds better than my cammed LS with full exhaust. Love my corvette, but I would ditch it in a second for a GT350.

BJ67

It should be Mustang VS Camaro, Right now Camaro has every mustang combo beat except for the 350R. Until the Z28 comes out, let FORD have its day with the 350R. The Corvette is in a different league and the GS should handle the 350R if the Z51 doesn't if someone just has to compare mustang vs corvette.

BJ67

The Ford Gt is what it is for 400K, If it was 100k it wouldn't even be competitive with a base C7, so who would want it. Need to compare a 400k corvette to a 400k Ford Gt

principalpony

WOW I've read or skimmed through this whole tread. I wonder why no one pointed out that the original GT350 back in 1966 was made to compete against the Corvettes, Ferraris and others in the Lemans circuit, and it did VERY well. Saying that comparing a Shelby Mustang to the Corvette is not a like comparison must just be based on the back seat, which may or may not be there in the Shelby. Carroll Shelby modified the original Mustang into the GT350 for just that purpose - to compete with the Corvette. Ford did the same with the new GT350.

I had been a Mustang guy for about 45 years and owned several including a GT500. I was ready and excited to trade my '12 GT Mustang for a GT350 until I had an issue with our Ford Explorer and Ford just blew me off. I decided to check the competition this time and decided the C7 Z51 was a better choice for me for many of the reasons already discussed here.

With the GT350 being in such limited production, I don't think we'll be seeing any new ones for MSRP for a long time and I do think they will not only hold their value, they may end up being worth much more like the Ford GT.

So that's about all I am adding to this thread. I am VERY happy with my '16 C7 Z51 and can't wait to get it on the track later this month at Grattan Speedway to see how much better it does than my '12 Mustang GT w/Brembo Brakes did.

LSRX

I was stating my opinion by making a point. Sorry you didn't understand that. Also by using a cheaper composite material and using a lower horsepower engine maybe out of the Mustang or the Ecoboost (truck) maybe it could be. Also I would have considered it even if it was more than the base C7.

2cnd Chance

Ummmmm NO!

Kurac

You wouldn't happen to be Bossing over on the G6 forum, would you?
My car is a Shadow Black with White over the top stripes Track Pack car. I agree with what you've said. The car is going into its second full year of production and still commanding ADM's

LSRX

Ummmmm yeah!

2cnd Chance

Do you honestly think a new Ford GT could be dumbed down to a $100K?

C7_Z06

Yes that's me. Shadow Black looks great!

It's ashame the ADM's are still rampant. I turned down an R at 20k over sticker.... financially doable but not smart to do so IMO even if it's a unicorn. Same principle on Porsche's GT3/GT4 cars... paying big markups on them is llke burning money. But hey that's their choice/decision.

richelu

While this is a little off topic, lets looks at the facts as shown in the JD power study and not opinions:
http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...lity-study-vds
http://www.jdpower.com/ratings/study...by-Make/846ENG

Looks like the bowtie and its brethren are shedding this reputation and have been for years.

Back on topic:
As someone who has owned a camaro, a mustang, and now the C7 Vette; I was initially looking at the fifth gen camaro ZL1 and also waiting to see what the Z28 was going to be (this was obviously a couple years ago). As soon as I saw the unveiling of the C7, I was hooked. I think Chevy nailed it and I still get a huge smile every time I get in and start her up.

For some reason, I am not digging the look of the new Mustang. I liked the look of the previous Mustang better. But, I will say that I do love the exhaust note of the mustang.

As for the GS vs. GT350R, it should be interesting to see what the GS does on the track. I would think it will do better on the track than the Z51, since it is essentially a Z06 without the Supercharged engine, but I wonder if all the aero will slow it down in the straights. This being said, I would choose the GS as the more livable trackable-DD as the 350R does not have AC and I not want to drive in Atlanta traffic without A/C.
Does the electronic pack re-add the A/C? I looked like it was essentially a stereo add. Though if they add the A/C back in, then the only weight savings between the 350/350R would probably only be the back seats.

Kurac

Thank you sir....
Your unbiased review on the car along with other former/current Corvette and 911 owners is what swayed me. A Z51 or Z06 was at the top of my list but at the end of the day they just aren't as special as a 350.

Kurac

Yes, the Electronics package adds AC back into the car. With the Z51 being quicker around the track than a GT350 Track Pack (at least with Car and Driver on one particular day on that particular track) it's more than likely that the GS, especially in Z07 setup, will be quicker than the R. But again, if you are looking just purely at the numbers, you've already failed to realize the appeal of the 350. It's the reason why C/D ranked the 350 as a more enjoyable driver's car than the Z51 in a recent mag comparo.

richelu

You obviously did not read my entire post. Beyond the numbers, I do not like the styling of the new Mustang. I actually like the previous generation better.

I have also had a lot of fun in my Vette on the tail of the dragon and all in a package that I got well below MSRP as I was able to leverage a supplier discount.

Looking at the whole package, I am quite sure I made the right decision in purchasing my Vette and I do not take C/D's advice on the cars I choose to purchase. I make those decisions on my own and I was not impressed with the mustangs I drove. With the ADM that the dealers are also throwing on top, it justifies my decision even further.