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Old 05-01-2016, 05:41 PM
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Default So I see we get NO All Seasons tire option for '17 AND they dropped the theft alarm

on 1LT models not even just a blowing horn it seems. Didn't Tadge at last years bash say they were going to have an all seasons run flat tire option within a year at the 2016 bash?










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I can't imagine that they dropped the theft alarm. Source?
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I can't imagine that they dropped the theft alarm. Source?
Order Guide. Shows 0 theft alarm on 1LT
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Originally Posted by Amluk
on 1LT models not even just a blowing horn it seems. Didn't Tadge at last years bash say they were going to have an all seasons run flat tire option within a year at the 2016 bash?










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All season tires as a factory installed tire is more than just installing the tires. The Corvette is fitted with (Y) speed rated tires(186+MPH) and if they install tires that are not (Y) rated, say Y rated(186 MPH) or W rated at 168 MPH, then they have to install a speed limiter on the car to match the speed rating of the tires.

Having A/S tires that are (Y) rated, plus being run flats is an expensive proposition as what other manufacturers and consumers are willing to pay the additional cost of a tire that is rated for 186+ mph to put on their car that doesn't have the horsepower to do 150 MPH.

I doubt there is much of a market for A/S tires that will fit the Corvette with a (Y) speed rating plus being a run flat tire, other than the Corvette.

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All season tires as a factory installed tire is more than just installing the tires. The Corvette is fitted with (Y) speed rated tires(186+MPH) and if they install tires that are not (Y) rated, say Y rated(186 MPH) or W rated at 168 MPH, then they have to install a speed limiter on the car to match the speed rating of the tires.

Having A/S tires that are (Y) rated, plus being run flats is an expensive proposition as what other manufacturers and consumers are willing to pay the additional cost of a tire that is rated for 186+ mph to put on their car that doesn't have the horsepower to do 150 MPH.

I doubt there is much of a market for A/S tires that will fit the Corvette with a (Y) speed rating plus being a run flat tire, other than the Corvette.
Like I said above the Corvette chief engineer said last year at the 2015 Bash that they were working with Michelin on an all seasons run flat tire option for the C7 for 2017 or sooner.

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Originally Posted by Amluk
Like I said above the Corvette chief engineer said last year at the 2015 Bash that they were working with Michelin on an all seasons run flat tire option for the C7 for 2017 or sooner.
So? In the absence of a signed legal document promising winter tires, where's the beef? Do you think every sentence the man utters is a personal guarantee for you? It didn't happen. Meh? And the alarm is gone for the 1LT. Well, then, if it's important to you, buy a 2LT or put in an after-market. Are those two items really deal-breakers for you? Would you have bought a 1LT with winter tires if only it had been offered? Will you get an "army of lawyers" involved to sue GM because Tadge said they were "working with Michelin" in an attempt to make this happen?

Good luck, bud. First world problem.
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A friend of mine was at the Bash, and he sent pics of a display that Michelin had that showed all season tires for the Stingray and Z51 size wheels. He said Michelin said these tires would be available this fall sometime.
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Originally Posted by jovette
A friend of mine was at the Bash, and he sent pics of a display that Michelin had that showed all season tires for the Stingray and Z51 size wheels. He said Michelin said these tires would be available this fall sometime.
I would not count on that. At the museums birthday bash last fall, The michelin rep said therd would be an all season tire for the Z06, to be out by April 2016 (last month).

Of course, the discussion on all the tires that were cracked last February while moving and loading Z06s to the shipping trucks.

And to respond to someone above about the demand for such a tire, i would be first in line to buy a set. I didnt get a Z06 to leave it parked in the garage when the temp goes below 40. I want to drive my car on every clear sunny day regardless the time of year.
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Originally Posted by mschuyler
So? In the absence of a signed legal document promising winter tires, where's the beef? Do you think every sentence the man utters is a personal guarantee for you? It didn't happen. Meh? And the alarm is gone for the 1LT. Well, then, if it's important to you, buy a 2LT or put in an after-market. Are those two items really deal-breakers for you? Would you have bought a 1LT with winter tires if only it had been offered? Will you get an "army of lawyers" involved to sue GM because Tadge said they were "working with Michelin" in an attempt to make this happen?

Good luck, bud. First world problem.
Geez, you need a chill pill!
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
All season tires as a factory installed tire is more than just installing the tires. The Corvette is fitted with (Y) speed rated tires(186+MPH) and if they install tires that are not (Y) rated, say Y rated(186 MPH) or W rated at 168 MPH, then they have to install a speed limiter on the car to match the speed rating of the tires.

Having A/S tires that are (Y) rated, plus being run flats is an expensive proposition as what other manufacturers and consumers are willing to pay the additional cost of a tire that is rated for 186+ mph to put on their car that doesn't have the horsepower to do 150 MPH.

I doubt there is much of a market for A/S tires that will fit the Corvette with a (Y) speed rating plus being a run flat tire, other than the Corvette.
Non-Z51 sizes have a (Y) rated All-Season tire. The reason, they are the same as the C6 (non-widebody) sizes and there has been a A/S Runflat for many years in that space (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 ZP's).

I don't see a reason to offer Z51/GS/Z06 cars with A/S from the factory, but for base, it should be 100% an option.
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The "dropped the theft alarm" is totally incorrect. The Reference Only RPO Code UTT - "Theft-deterrent system, body security content and unauthorized entry electrical" has only been on the 2LT and 3LT for ALL C7 model years. This is NOT a change for 2017.
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Originally Posted by dmvette
Geez, you need a chill pill!
Thanks. I would think Black&White needs a whole bottle full. Would you NOT buy a vette because "But Tadge SAID" this would happen? Plus he's completely wrong about the alarm.

First world problem. Not important. Get over it. Geez. WHO needs the pill????

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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
The "dropped the theft alarm" is totally incorrect. The Reference Only RPO Code UTT - "Theft-deterrent system, body security content and unauthorized entry electrical" has only been on the 2LT and 3LT for ALL C7 model years. This is NOT a change for 2017.
Those pesky FACTS....
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
The "dropped the theft alarm" is totally incorrect. The Reference Only RPO Code UTT - "Theft-deterrent system, body security content and unauthorized entry electrical" has only been on the 2LT and 3LT for ALL C7 model years. This is NOT a change for 2017.
this, the motion sensor was never available for the 1LT if I'm not mistaken.
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I attended the Michelin session at the Bash. The engineer made it perfectly clear that Michelin WILL HAVE the AS 3+ ZP, i.e. runflat, available this fall but only in the 18/19 and 19/20 Base and Z51 sizes. No runflats are planned for the GS or Z06. He said testing is about finished and production runs should start soon so there will be plenty of stock when the tire is announced for sale.

There was absolutely NO discussion about runflats being an option from the factory.

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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
I attended the Michelin session at the Bash. The engineer made it perfectly clear that Michelin WILL HAVE the AS 3+ ZP, i.e. runflat, available this fall but only in the 18/19 and 19/20 Base and Z51 sizes. No runflats are planned for the GS or Z06. He said testing is about finished and production runs should start soon so there will be plenty of stock when the tire is announced for sale.

There was absolutely NO discussion about runflats being an option from the factory.
Currently I believe that the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ is only available with either a W or Y speed rating, not with the (Y) speed rating. Did the Michelin man say the A/S 3+ ZP was going to be a (Y) rated tire, or are they only making the W and Y rated tires available as a run flat for the A/S 3+?

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No interest in all season Corvette tires. That's what I have a 4WD SUV for.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Currently I believe that the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ is only available with either a W or Y speed rating, not with the (Y) speed rating. Did the Michelin man say the A/S 3+ ZP was going to be a (Y) rated tire, or are they only making the W and Y rated tires available as a run flat for the A/S 3+?
They are Z rated which is the same as (Y)


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