20171LE

I've been saying this for YEARS, only to be flamed by GM fan bois.
Shockingly, I've even had a Corvette executive make the identical statement to my face.

The price increases have just been insult added to injury.
So, I'm 99% sure I'm going to wait for the C8,
or move on to a Porsche Turbo next.
And, that is exactly what I've told every Corvette executive and engineer I've spoken to since 2013.

For what it's worth, those same engineers told me to my face that the next major advancement from/for Corvette will wear a CADILLAC badge, and not Corvette flags.
Considering Johan de Nysschen is running Cadillac now, and one of the reasons Johan left Infiniti was that he never got the flagship he wanted, gives the info even more credence.

Glenn Quagmire

Geez, that sounds amazing! How friendly did you get?

jackvette09

I think that Corvette would be making a big mistake with a base vehicle at least 25K over current base price. That would surely drive a large portion of current and future owners away from a new vehicle purchase. Currently Corvette is a great car at a very competitive price. If it's not broken don't fix it.

20171LE

They've already made that mistake.
The C7 prices, compared to C6 prices, are already insane.

jcp911s

I bought a C7 over a Porsche purely on price.

Both are great cars, but the C7 was a better value. Period.

jimmyb

From this years bash:

37,048 2016 C7's have been produced through April 22, 2016.

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2016/...inar-ncm-bash/

Jimmy

Don't know where you get that....

I paid, out the door, $56,150 for my 2008 C6 Convertible (2LT, NPP, F55)

I paid, out the door, $61,500 for my 2014 C7 convertible (2LT, NPP)

Jimmy

PS. You can go buy a 2016 1LT convertible from Kerbeck for $55,761....TODAY....so much for inane.
Pricing on Corvettes follow the newness of the generation. 2014 saw lots of over sticker pricing (and very little discounting), 2015 saw over sticker pricing go away almost completely and wide spread discounting a local level (the big guys like Conti, Kerbeck, Mike F./etc were already discounting), 2016 and all Corvettes are discounted now. So, if you are using pricing as an excuse, it does NOT hold water. As my example above shows, I could get a 2016 Convertible equipped just like my car for actually a little LESS than I paid for my 2014 (and I got a small discount on my 2014).

No doubt the economy played a big role, but there is NO denying that the Corvette C6 NEVER recovered from the 2008 meltdown. Even with the intro of the GS in 2010, the C6 (post financial melt down) was essentially dead, sales wise, by Corvette standards. Most other high end sports cars recovered by 2010-2011.

Jimmy

jma242

I don't think the base prices are bad at all, but I don't like how they bundle certain items into much larger and more expensive packages.

IMO GM should designate the LT packages strictly for interior materials/design and create something else like a technology package that includes HUD, PDR and Nav for those of us that don't want to pay for 2LT/3LT for a single item.

jimmyb

I too wish there was more "a la carte" in C7 ordering (like Porsche).

Jimmy

Steve_R

Not even close to reality.

So, let's see, you don't own a C7, you don't like the C7, you're 99% sure you won't own a C7, and you might get a Porsche instead of any year Vette - but you're on a Vette forum so you can badmouth the cars and insult the owners?

jcp911s

Last night I lit 283 candles and communed with the spirit of ZAD, and he pronounced...

"There Will NEVER Be a Mid-engine Corvette!!!... Unless they name it after ME!!!"

So you heard it here first!!!

dvilin

Price increases with all the discounting has amounted to very little. But you are going to get a Porsche Turbo, yeap that makes sense.

RedC7AZ

GM engineering and development on the C7 was exemplary. Far and away a much better engineered car than the C6.

One factor that could cut the C7 cycle short is the fact GM built such a good car they will run out of improvements to make to it.

Larry/car

I am sure GM did market research to determine if Corvette owners will spring for a mid engine car. Development cost must be unbelievable. The pictures that are surfacing look ok but don't have me running off to the dealer to purchase like the C7 did. Maybe my future 2020+ sport car will be be foreign.

AORoads

Very doubtful that C7 would be a 5 year run.

He also has no P-car---he's still deciding....

MAKC7

Don't think so. Maybe the C8 will be built in 2020/2021.

jimmyb

Oh come on, Steve. He's talked to Corvette executives and engineers and told them all about the C7....and those same engineers admitted he was right. I totally believe that.

After all these years, I STILL don't understand the need to join an enthusiast forum just to badmouth the object of said enthusiast forum. I guess it's the modern age....got to tweet what I had for dinner last night, got to put the results of my physical on Facebook, post a selfie on a back board in an ambulance....really pathetic need for attention.

Jimmy

PS. Since this guy (20171LE) doesn't seem to know how to use google, I did it for him, just a little comparison of the 1997 C5 and 2017 C7 pricing

1997 Corvette C5: Original MSRP: $37,495 ($55,630 in 2016 money)

2017 Corvette C7: MSRP $55,450

So, in 20 years, the price of a base Corvette is actually $180 CHEAPER, adjusted for inflation.

It sure is tough....that decision making process.
I've got to decide whether to take Gigi Hadid to dinner Saturday night or have brunch with Kate Upton on Sunday to talk her out of marrying Verlander. I suppose I could do both, but who can decide.
Man, my life sucks.

Jimmy

thrilled

My thinking if the C7 is only available 3-4 years in A few years time it will be more valuable than the models before the C7.My thinking less cars more value.

69L79

Now, thats funny.

mschuyler

Have we not been told that the development costs for the C7 approached a billion dollars? (Add citation here.) So if they are selling less than 40,000 units a year, you think they are going to make that money back in a short production run? I have no idea myself, but I would think GM would need a longer production run to amortize the development costs.

-HAIRBALL-

Maybe a car to match the GT-40. Very low production run, high cost (200k) and may not have any connection to the corvette line.