The First Ever Photos of the Mid-Engine Corvette
07-19-2016, 10:19 AM
#421
Burning Brakes
A lot of hoola-hoops were sold in the 50s, too. No wonder the Corvette sold well back then. Huh?
Oh, guess he's gone. Sorry for this post then
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07-21-2016, 07:34 PM
#422
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We Render the New Mid-Engine Corvette Zora!
We enlisted one of our favorite car renderers to bring you what we think the next-generation, mid-engine Corvette Zora will look like. What do you think?
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07-21-2016, 10:41 PM
#423
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We enlisted one of our favorite car renderers to bring you what we think the next-generation, mid-engine Corvette Zora will look like. What do you think?
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07-21-2016, 10:44 PM
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We enlisted one of our favorite car renderers to bring you what we think the next-generation, mid-engine Corvette Zora will look like. What do you think?
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Just more CF "Editor" spam.
07-22-2016, 09:48 PM
#425
"It's hard to win an argument with a person who is intelligent, but it is impossible to win an argument with someone who is an idiot"
2. Buildings are depreciable assets and yet businesses pay interest on loans to build them.
3. Talk to anyone who knows business finance and they will tell you that being leveraged is not a bad thing as paying interest actually allows you the benefit of a tax shield and you can actually make more money in the long run (VC and PE firms thrive on leverage).
4. Many people can actually pay cash for a C7 if they move investments around but this also means paying capital gains. I am paying a little over 2% interest and making over 15% interest on investments instead of pulling money out to buy a car. So in the long run, my C7 costs less for me.
What business school did you go to? 20171LE Tech
Paying cash for a car is not a bragging point (even if in your imagination).
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07-23-2016, 12:05 AM
#426
I think he's still serving his banishment sentence, but I couldn't agree with you more. :-)
07-23-2016, 01:47 PM
#427
We enlisted one of our favorite car renderers to bring you what we think the next-generation, mid-engine Corvette Zora will look like. What do you think?
See the rest of the images on the Corvette Forum homepage. >>
07-23-2016, 04:05 PM
#428
Racer
Every article I've read has mentioned $150k range too. Mid engine definitely,but which power plant? I sincerely hope GM sticks with the tried and true push rod V8's they have been known for building. No twin turbo V6's. Let ford keep the Eco-poop V6 and Chevy have the proper whaling super charged V8 mid engine hyper car we all know they can build.
07-23-2016, 04:15 PM
#429
It depends upon what they want to do with it. If they want to go racing head-to-head w/ the Ford GT at LeMans and on the GTLM circuit, a push-rod V8 may not be the right way to go given the way the rules are moving toward increasing penalties on higher displacement engines.
07-24-2016, 12:01 PM
#430
Every article I've read has mentioned $150k range too. Mid engine definitely,but which power plant? I sincerely hope GM sticks with the tried and true push rod V8's they have been known for building. No twin turbo V6's. Let ford keep the Eco-poop V6 and Chevy have the proper whaling super charged V8 mid engine hyper car we all know they can build.
DETROIT — The Obama administration issued on Tuesday the final version of new rules that require automakers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and trucks by 2025.
The standards — which mandate an average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon for the 2025 model year — will increase the pressure on auto manufacturers to step up development of electrified vehicles as well as sharply improve the mileage of their mass-market models through techniques like more efficient engines and lighter car bodies.
Current rules for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, program mandate an average of about 29 miles per gallon, with gradual increases to 35.5 m.p.g. by 2016.
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07-24-2016, 12:26 PM
#431
t/c more likely than s/c, and this quote from 2012 explains why;
DETROIT — The Obama administration issued on Tuesday the final version of new rules that require automakers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and trucks by 2025.
The standards — which mandate an average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon for the 2025 model year — will increase the pressure on auto manufacturers to step up development of electrified vehicles as well as sharply improve the mileage of their mass-market models through techniques like more efficient engines and lighter car bodies.
Current rules for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, program mandate an average of about 29 miles per gallon, with gradual increases to 35.5 m.p.g. by 2016.
DETROIT — The Obama administration issued on Tuesday the final version of new rules that require automakers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and trucks by 2025.
The standards — which mandate an average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon for the 2025 model year — will increase the pressure on auto manufacturers to step up development of electrified vehicles as well as sharply improve the mileage of their mass-market models through techniques like more efficient engines and lighter car bodies.
Current rules for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, program mandate an average of about 29 miles per gallon, with gradual increases to 35.5 m.p.g. by 2016.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...regulators-say
07-24-2016, 01:50 PM
#432
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Funny thing about CAFE
t/c more likely than s/c, and this quote from 2012 explains why;
DETROIT — The Obama administration issued on Tuesday the final version of new rules that require automakers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and trucks by 2025.
The standards — which mandate an average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon for the 2025 model year — will increase the pressure on auto manufacturers to step up development of electrified vehicles as well as sharply improve the mileage of their mass-market models through techniques like more efficient engines and lighter car bodies.
Current rules for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, program mandate an average of about 29 miles per gallon, with gradual increases to 35.5 m.p.g. by 2016.
DETROIT — The Obama administration issued on Tuesday the final version of new rules that require automakers to nearly double the average fuel economy of new cars and trucks by 2025.
The standards — which mandate an average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon for the 2025 model year — will increase the pressure on auto manufacturers to step up development of electrified vehicles as well as sharply improve the mileage of their mass-market models through techniques like more efficient engines and lighter car bodies.
Current rules for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, program mandate an average of about 29 miles per gallon, with gradual increases to 35.5 m.p.g. by 2016.
07-27-2016, 04:42 PM
#433
Burning Brakes
I dont think they are still aiming towards that figure.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...regulators-say
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...regulators-say
Otherwise I was going to say, go ahead and build this car for the next 8-9 years and at least we can go out in a blaze of freakin' glory.
08-02-2016, 05:26 PM
#434
I guess it was the late 90s when Chevy last realized the car was being priced out of the youth market, and made an attempt to make an affordable version. Which morphed into the very expensive limited appeal Z06 instead. (Good lord, who buys a Corvette with a fixed un-removable roof?)
I think it is great that Chevy builds and sells uber performance high cost limited production versions of the car. But as a business with profit and loss targets, an reasonably affordable version is also needed. Something younger people can buy and enjoy without it being a second mortgage.
Otherwise, the car will die off with us older folks, and that would be a sad end to a great American icon.
Come on Chevy, forget about mid engine nonsense and look at making the car more affordable to younger customers.
I think it is great that Chevy builds and sells uber performance high cost limited production versions of the car. But as a business with profit and loss targets, an reasonably affordable version is also needed. Something younger people can buy and enjoy without it being a second mortgage.
Otherwise, the car will die off with us older folks, and that would be a sad end to a great American icon.
Come on Chevy, forget about mid engine nonsense and look at making the car more affordable to younger customers.
It's amazing to me that Chevy is able to sell this much car for only $55,000. AMAZING. I actually think it's the biggest steal on the market. I know guys who paid more than that for their trucks.
For anyone who's spent time shopping for true performance cars that actually compete with the Corvette, that price tag is unbelievably low. There isn't a single car on the market anywhere near that kind of price/performance ratio today.
08-02-2016, 06:18 PM
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I would argue that the Corvette is the most affordable true performance car on the market today. In fact, when the salesman told me the price on my car ($55k), I was shocked.
It's amazing to me that Chevy is able to sell this much car for only $55,000. AMAZING. I actually think it's the biggest steal on the market. I know guys who paid more than that for their trucks.
For anyone who's spent time shopping for true performance cars that actually compete with the Corvette, that price tag is unbelievably low. There isn't a single car on the market anywhere near that kind of price/performance ratio today.
It's amazing to me that Chevy is able to sell this much car for only $55,000. AMAZING. I actually think it's the biggest steal on the market. I know guys who paid more than that for their trucks.
For anyone who's spent time shopping for true performance cars that actually compete with the Corvette, that price tag is unbelievably low. There isn't a single car on the market anywhere near that kind of price/performance ratio today.
08-02-2016, 09:44 PM
#437
I read months back that the current V8 was capable of making 1000HP but the current chassis could not handle that power and torgue. Enter the Zora rumours.
I would be disappointed if GM did not do what Chrysler did when they shocked the market with 707HP Hellcat!
Translation: If they are going to come out with a ZORA, smash the expectations with a 1000 HP super car. Can anyone say Bugatti (though new one is 1500 HP, but you get the idea)
Coming out at 775HP would be yawner? 707HP is out there already. I recognize apples to oranges in performance and 0-60 times vs. Hellcat but we want a WOW # from GM in the new Vette!
I would be disappointed if GM did not do what Chrysler did when they shocked the market with 707HP Hellcat!
Translation: If they are going to come out with a ZORA, smash the expectations with a 1000 HP super car. Can anyone say Bugatti (though new one is 1500 HP, but you get the idea)
Coming out at 775HP would be yawner? 707HP is out there already. I recognize apples to oranges in performance and 0-60 times vs. Hellcat but we want a WOW # from GM in the new Vette!
08-03-2016, 10:01 AM
#438
I read months back that the current V8 was capable of making 1000HP but the current chassis could not handle that power and torgue. Enter the Zora rumours.
I would be disappointed if GM did not do what Chrysler did when they shocked the market with 707HP Hellcat!
Translation: If they are going to come out with a ZORA, smash the expectations with a 1000 HP super car. Can anyone say Bugatti (though new one is 1500 HP, but you get the idea)
Coming out at 775HP would be yawner? 707HP is out there already. I recognize apples to oranges in performance and 0-60 times vs. Hellcat but we want a WOW # from GM in the new Vette!
I would be disappointed if GM did not do what Chrysler did when they shocked the market with 707HP Hellcat!
Translation: If they are going to come out with a ZORA, smash the expectations with a 1000 HP super car. Can anyone say Bugatti (though new one is 1500 HP, but you get the idea)
Coming out at 775HP would be yawner? 707HP is out there already. I recognize apples to oranges in performance and 0-60 times vs. Hellcat but we want a WOW # from GM in the new Vette!
08-03-2016, 10:19 AM
#439
HP numbers are of little use without translating to speed both in a straight line and when used to modulate turns. If they turn out a car with 600-700HP that can keep up with the likes of a McLaren 650, then that's what will sell, not a zinger headline.
Price will obviously depend on the how much volume they want to make of the car. Will they split into a platform into a Z1/Zora supercar and then trickle that down into the C8? If it's a low volume lead in model, maybe 150K, if it's mass produced C8, maybe 85K.
So much to speculate on...
Price will obviously depend on the how much volume they want to make of the car. Will they split into a platform into a Z1/Zora supercar and then trickle that down into the C8? If it's a low volume lead in model, maybe 150K, if it's mass produced C8, maybe 85K.
So much to speculate on...
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08-03-2016, 10:39 AM
#440
HP numbers are of little use without translating to speed both in a straight line and when used to modulate turns. If they turn out a car with 600-700HP that can keep up with the likes of a McLaren 650, then that's what will sell, not a zinger headline.
Price will obviously depend on the how much volume they want to make of the car. Will they split into a platform into a Z1/Zora supercar and then trickle that down into the C8? If it's a low volume lead in model, maybe 150K, if it's mass produced C8, maybe 85K.
So much to speculate on...
Price will obviously depend on the how much volume they want to make of the car. Will they split into a platform into a Z1/Zora supercar and then trickle that down into the C8? If it's a low volume lead in model, maybe 150K, if it's mass produced C8, maybe 85K.
So much to speculate on...
I imagine it will look quite a bit like the mid engine Daytona corvette... They have been testing this mid-engine design for years on the track.
http://www.drivingline.com/articles/...ona-prototype/
One of the C8 Zora's will be tempting when they come out.
Last edited by Jake5670; 08-03-2016 at 11:50 AM.