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Old 09-07-2016, 08:30 PM
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Default Car and Driver lightning lap Grand Sport, 911 GT3 and McLaren 570-all run 2.47's

This months car and driver lightning lap shows the grand sport z07 , Porsche 911 GT3 and the mclaren 570 are all within a few tenths....

2.47.1 for the grand sport and 247.0 for the 200 grand Porsche 911gt3 with PDK ...

So much for the need for PDK....lol

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The Grand Sport kicks a$$!
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:18 PM
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Do you have a link to this? I would like to read this...or is it just on the newsstand now?
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What tires does the GT3 come with?
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I get car and driver magazine via the internet....so I don't know how to create a link.

I imagine the various forums will have a way to create a link shortly.....sorry guys

Usually someone takes a photo of the magazine ...or car and driver will post on their website the article

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Old 09-07-2016, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DAFFYDRUNK
What tires does the GT3 come with?

Michelin pilot sport cup 2 tires for the Porsche gt3
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What time did the McLaren 570S do?
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The grand sport corvette really did well.

So much for all this talk how DCT s are so important to have over a manual transmission..

The performance of the grand sport compared to the mclaren 570 and Porsche gt3 rs both of which have DCT s...

Very impressive track performance by all three...
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And the engine is in the front!!! How is this possible?
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Very good performance by the GS.
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who needs a mid engine corvette?

This thing rips .....
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Just goes to show you how important tires and brakes are and not power. Almost 7 seconds faster than a Z51.
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Originally Posted by rob62
And the engine is in the front!!! How is this possible?
Probably in the same way that the Viper was able to run the second best production car lap ever - 2:44.2 (which beat last year's Z06 time of 2:44.6).
I guess we now know 190 hp is worth 2.9 seconds per lap (GS v Z06) - pretty big, but not nearly as big as the 6.7 seconds that some aero and a set of wider stickier tires is (GS v Z51)
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
Probably in the same way that the Viper was able to run the second best production car lap ever - 2:44.2 (which beat last year's Z06 time of 2:44.6).
I guess we now know 190 hp is worth 2.9 seconds per lap (GS v Z06) - pretty big, but not nearly as big as the 6.7 seconds that some aero and a set of wider stickier tires is (GS v Z51)
I don't think the aero is helping the GS over the Z51 all that much on a track. I think it's a simple matter of more track-worthy tires and brakes.
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
Probably in the same way that the Viper was able to run the second best production car lap ever - 2:44.2 (which beat last year's Z06 time of 2:44.6).
I guess we now know 190 hp is worth 2.9 seconds per lap (GS v Z06) - pretty big, but not nearly as big as the 6.7 seconds that some aero and a set of wider stickier tires is (GS v Z51)
Yeah pretty much any track guy will tell you brakes and tires are worth more than power for lap times unless you REALLY put down a lot more power. Getting on the gas earlier and on the brakes later can really help out on the straits, and even carrying a few more MPH around corners means those MPH will carry all the way around the track as well.
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Tadge is sure as hell going to be proud of that. That's one hell of a time from the Grand Sport. Best value sports car in the world.
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And I remember when Tadge said a couple of years ago that there was no room for a GS based on how the Z51 & Z06 performed

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Originally Posted by LIStingray
Probably in the same way that the Viper was able to run the second best production car lap ever - 2:44.2 (which beat last year's Z06 time of 2:44.6).
I guess we now know 190 hp is worth 2.9 seconds per lap (GS v Z06) - pretty big, but not nearly as big as the 6.7 seconds that some aero and a set of wider stickier tires is (GS v Z51)
2:47.1 - 2:44.6 = 2.5 seconds

Wider lightweight wheels, light weight CCB's, Z07 suspension...
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Just stunning that the GS is faster than the 570S that has about 100 more HP, DCT and is significantly lighter and neck to neck against a GT3 RS that also has more power, lighter weight and DCT.


Thats incredible.
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Originally Posted by Ivan Viera
Just stunning that the GS is faster than the 570S that has about 100 more HP, DCT and is significantly lighter and neck to neck against a GT3 RS that also has more power, lighter weight and DCT.


Thats incredible.
Just note that the 570S is advertised as a fun car, not a max performance car. The 650S is the max performance car.


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