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Old 09-13-2016, 01:35 PM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/features/chevrolet-corvette-grand-sport-at-lightning-lap-2016-feature

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09-13-2016, 02:43 PM
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I thought it was the GS in the race. If the GS did so well the z06 would have won. But it must been a small track with no room to stretch and they used 1st and 2nd gear. The GS speed is not the same league.

Chevy likely paid for it and it was a sales add. The GS can handle well but no speed in the stretch.
I was joking because so many dismiss the Z06 but it ran very well.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...d-more-feature

It is not a race but best lap time. Look under historical times which includes the 2015 Z06 run. The Z06 was 4th and the GS was 9th.



Makes you wonder why a mid engine car that costs more is needed.
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The overheating piece of crap Z06 only placed 4th behind a multi-million dollar hypercar, a concept track car and a track car monster.
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Originally Posted by BladeZ06
The overheating piece of crap Z06 only placed 4th behind a multi-million dollar hypercar, a concept track car and a track car monster.
I thought it was the GS in the race. If the GS did so well the z06 would have won. But it must been a small track with no room to stretch and they used 1st and 2nd gear. The GS speed is not the same league.

Chevy likely paid for it and it was a sales add. The GS can handle well but no speed in the stretch.
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VIR has a long straight where speeds can reach 150+ it is not a slow track by any means. To think that Chevy "paid" for the GS to do as good as it did but not the Z06 is laughable.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
I thought it was the GS in the race. If the GS did so well the z06 would have won. But it must been a small track with no room to stretch and they used 1st and 2nd gear. The GS speed is not the same league.

Chevy likely paid for it and it was a sales add. The GS can handle well but no speed in the stretch.
I was joking because so many dismiss the Z06 but it ran very well.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...d-more-feature

It is not a race but best lap time. Look under historical times which includes the 2015 Z06 run. The Z06 was 4th and the GS was 9th.



Makes you wonder why a mid engine car that costs more is needed.
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Originally Posted by BaylorCorvette
VIR has a long straight where speeds can reach 150+ it is not a slow track by any means. To think that Chevy "paid" for the GS to do as good as it did but not the Z06 is laughable.
2:47 just about smokes anything out there regardless of cost. Even the 500hp GT3 RS with all that down force isnt any faster.
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Originally Posted by BladeZ06

Makes you wonder why a mid engine car that costs more is needed.
Because the competition doesn't stand still and the mid-engine car will be a better performance platform. If there was no advantage to this design you would still be seeing roadsters at Indianapolis.
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It should be noted that fresh pavement was put down on VIR this year, so comparing times from previous years is kind of moot.
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Originally Posted by BaylorCorvette
It should be noted that fresh pavement was put down on VIR this year, so comparing times from previous years is kind of moot.
Makes the Z06 time even more interesting as the track was worse when it ran.

EDIT: All this talk about drivers and repaving. Seems like a ton of conflicting stories. Results are that the wide body corvettes did amazing.

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Old 09-13-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BaylorCorvette
It should be noted that fresh pavement was put down on VIR this year, so comparing times from previous years is kind of moot.
The track was repaved in 2014 and again this past Aug. This years LL was completed before the Aug repave. The changes in the '14 repave did make a big difference in lap times so you really can't compare any of the pre '14 LL times. The laps times after the latest repave don't seem to be showing any great difference.
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Old 09-13-2016, 06:10 PM
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Wasn't the Z06 time driven by a hot shoe as opposed to the basically amateur drivers used in this comparo? Chris Winkler ran a 2:40 there in an ACR does that count too?

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Originally Posted by PDCjonny
Wasn't the Z06 time driven by a hot shoe as opposed to the basically amateur drivers used in this comparo? Chris Winkler ran a 2:40 there in an ACR does that count too?
The Lightning lap times are from the writers of C&D
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Lap videos are posted on YouTube.
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Originally Posted by PDCjonny
Wasn't the Z06 time driven by a hot shoe as opposed to the basically amateur drivers used in this comparo? Chris Winkler ran a 2:40 there in an ACR does that count too?
Mero said they ran a 2:41 in the Z06, does that count?

On a serious note...The one thing that should make us go hmmm is the fact that the GT3RS was only .1s faster than the GS...and the GS was 2.5s slower than the Z06...Thus, even on a 'green' track, why was the Z06 only .3s faster than the GT3Rs at MRLS????? Same day, same conditions, just like this test...something is amuck! Anyone?
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Originally Posted by ZoratZ06
Mero said they ran a 2:41 in the Z06, does that count?

On a serious note...The one thing that should make us go hmmm is the fact that the GT3RS was only .1s faster than the GS...and the GS was 2.5s slower than the Z06...Thus, even on a 'green' track, why was the Z06 only .3s faster than the GT3Rs at MRLS????? Same day, same conditions, just like this test...something is amuck! Anyone?
Wasn't that the Motortrend test with a disconnected intercooler pump and old brake pads?
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Originally Posted by ZoratZ06
Mero said they ran a 2:41 in the Z06, does that count?

On a serious note...The one thing that should make us go hmmm is the fact that the GT3RS was only .1s faster than the GS...and the GS was 2.5s slower than the Z06...Thus, even on a 'green' track, why was the Z06 only .3s faster than the GT3Rs at MRLS????? Same day, same conditions, just like this test...something is amuck! Anyone?
Different track, different day, different driver, different conditions, different timer. Should I go on?
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Originally Posted by CFHay
The Lightning lap times are from the writers of C&D

Yeah, and the hilarious part is he no doubt knows that. The viper troll just be a trollin'. LOL.

Must be, as usual, a slow day over on his forum.
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Old 09-13-2016, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BaylorCorvette
It should be noted that fresh pavement was put down on VIR this year, so comparing times from previous years is kind of moot.
The 2016 LL ran before the resurface...that being the case the track resurface "before" the 2014 LL means the track was better for the 2014 & 2015 LL's.
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Originally Posted by BladeZ06
Makes the Z06 time even more interesting as the track was worse when it ran.
Wrong! See above.
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Originally Posted by Silver Stingray
Different track, different day, different driver, different conditions, different timer. Should I go on?
Yes please go on cause I clearly missed something. Both tests were conducted on the same day for each car. Z06 and GT3 were tested on the same day at MRLS...same driver same everything. .3s delta.

Lightening Lap GS and GT3 same day etc...and the GT3 was on only .1s faster than the GS.

So please explain the delta difference. The track condition is almost irrelevant. A GS on the same day was only .1s slower than a GT3RS...a car that should be much faster...better downforce, more power, and lighter.

Then on the same day, same track, same driver, a Z06 was only .3 faster than a GT3RS.

Seems very strange to me. So YES please go on. I'm genuinely curious.


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