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Old 09-22-2016, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tow
Well I was posting worse case $100k. Yes hopefully it will be less.
Sorry , wasn't trying to knock you down for your opinion. Should have prefaced my words with WADR (with all due respect) and ended it with IMO (in my opinion).
Old 09-22-2016, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by QKSLVRZ
in an ugly MF'er biggest baddest fracking hammer you can find, sort of way.
Originally Posted by dvilin
Not the best looking that is for sure but it is a monster in the performance arena.
Yeah it's a shame Godzilla didn't have the looks to match it's strength.
Old 09-22-2016, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by z edge
To each their own but i have always thought the gTr is the ugliest sports car on the planet.
Going by sales figures, it would appear most people would agree with you!
Old 09-22-2016, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tow
To see what's in store for the Zora and future C8. Now you know GM is going to bench mark that car. Now I know why GM is building a state of the art paint shop when you look at the process the NSX is put through. They are even scanning every car for Orange peel. Looks like the car will be half Gas half electric. Base is $156,000 so you can count on the Zora to be in that range. I'm sure the C8 will be at least $100 big ones base. The quality of that cars build looks amazing and I'm wondering if GM can even muster something close. Go take a look because I'm sure Zora and C8 are going in that exact same direction.
The Acura NSX sitting on the showroom floor of Acura Torrance has plenty of orange peel in it's Pearl White paint. In fact, it looks lousy.

And, it has been sitting there more than 3 weeks with an asking price of $100k over MSRP.

Someone's idea of a bad joke. At this point, just an embarassment.

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Old 09-22-2016, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Flame Red
They just don't care about their customers at all. Acura cares less about their customers than GM does - hard as that may seem.
I doubt either of those statements are correct. Haven't seen that from any auto company.

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Old 09-22-2016, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PUGPROUD
Read this month's Car & Driver...new Corvette Grand Sport beat Acura NSX by 3.1 seconds around Virginia International Raceway's 4.1 mile course! The mighty Porsche 911 GTS RS beat the Grand Sport by only .1 of a second. The Grand Sport as tested cost 50% less than both the NSX and Porsche as well. If the front engine Grand Sport can beat and match these two premium high priced vehicles imagine what
Chevy will do with a mid-engine Corvette...IT WILL BE A MONSTER
I do believe the article quoted the Acura engineers as being "satisfied" with the NSX performance in that test.
Pretty quick to compromise on a car that costs that much.

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Old 09-23-2016, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by z edge
Yeah it's a shame Godzilla didn't have the looks to match it's strength.
They should have released it under Infiniti badge and with little more of make-up.
Old 09-23-2016, 03:55 AM
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:55 AM
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If GM's goal is to create the next Nissan GT-R, hopefully Tadge has saved enough money for his forced retirement.
The GTR costs just a little more than a Z06/Z07 - in 9 model years (2008-2016), Nissan has sold a grand total of 10,400 GTR's (1,100 per year), about as many Z06's as GM sold for 2015 OR 2016.
I don't expect Acura to do a whole lot better with the new NSX; and Ford is only making 4,000 GT's over 4 model years.
Contrary to what most everyone on this forum thinks, the current formula of car lacks nothing in performance compared to any car costing less than $250,000, and is the best selling 2-seat sports car at any price range because in addition to outstanding performance, it is so versatile.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jim2527
GM should buy Nissan and rebadge the GTR.
and put a C7 body on it.... the GTR is the ugliest sports car on the planet. Looks like a kids Hot Wheels make up car.
Old 09-23-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Yeah, the LL results were quite poor for the NSX. 1.5 seconds faster than a Mustang (albeit the top track Mustang) and 3 seconds slower than the Corvette Grand Sport.

And it's nearly 4k pounds.

Hard to believe they followed the first NSX (which was quite good for the time) with something like this.
I think Honda did its home work and figured out that the NSX customer's age demographic 50 and over doesn't really care about the cars track times but cares more about premium materials and excellent quality over all. That is where this car has GM whipped hands down.

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Old 09-23-2016, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tow
I think Honda did its home work and figured out that the NSX customer's age demographic 50 and over doesn't really care about the cars track times but cares more about premium materials and excellent quality over all. That is where this car has GM whipped hands down.
The problem with their approach on this one is that it's marketed as a sports car, not a GT. But at their price point, there literally are dozens of sports cars far superior to it for equal or lesser cost. It simply isn't a compelling draw.

Which is a shame, cuz the original was a honey.

As to your quality comment, I really don't have much a personal baseline regarding Acura. I've only owned one Acura and that was few years ago. I have purchased/owned 4 new Corvettes. All C6 and C7 gens. All of them high performance models - Z06s, ZR1, Callaways and Lingenfelter. Knock on wood, but I haven't had a lick of trouble with any of them. They all proved reliable and trouble-free, and I've tracked every one of them. The Acura I had also was a good car and I didn't have any complaints with it. It proved to be as reliable and trouble-free as my Corvettes.



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Old 09-23-2016, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CriticalmassGT


Nissan GTR is a better built vehicle, IMO.
Agreed but the maintenance on the GTR is unacceptable. It needs super car maintenance without the cache and refinement. Hopefully Nissan fixes some of the ridiculous issues the GTR has for the common man.
Old 09-23-2016, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
If GM's goal is to create the next Nissan GT-R, hopefully Tadge has saved enough money for his forced retirement.
The GTR costs just a little more than a Z06/Z07 - in 9 model years (2008-2016), Nissan has sold a grand total of 10,400 GTR's (1,100 per year), about as many Z06's as GM sold for 2015 OR 2016.
I don't expect Acura to do a whole lot better with the new NSX; and Ford is only making 4,000 GT's over 4 model years.
Contrary to what most everyone on this forum thinks, the current formula of car lacks nothing in performance compared to any car costing less than $250,000, and is the best selling 2-seat sports car at any price range because in addition to outstanding performance, it is so versatile.

Ford is going to produce 250 GT's each year for four years(a total of 1000), thus the high price of $400K.

Acura is going to produce 1000 NSX's the first year(900 for the US and 100 for Japan) with no disclosure on how long they plan to produce the NSX. Acura has the capability to produce approximately 2,000 annually in it's Ohio plant, that was built specifically for the NSX. Thus the relatively low price(for a supercar) of $160K and I bet they plan on building them for a while.

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Old 09-23-2016, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernest_T
And it's puzzling since the hybrid cars are tearing up the P1 class in WEC.
It's not the hybrid technology that is the problem.
Both F1 and the P1 class use hybrid power and are far faster around a track than any other racecar currently made.
Power levels are starting to exceed 1,000hp.

The mistake (IMO) Acura made was not going for more electric power for the NSX.
As it is, it's only putting out a combined 73hp from the motors...and that dog won't hunt in this marketplace.

Originally Posted by 2cnd Chance
It looks cool.
I agree.

Originally Posted by SteveSoCal
And, it has been sitting there more than 3 weeks with an asking price of $100k over MSRP.

Someone's idea of a bad joke. At this point, just an embarassment.
It's the kind of thing that gives brands a bad name.

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Old 09-23-2016, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CriticalmassGT


Nissan GTR is a better built vehicle, IMO.
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Definitely a boy racer/ricer version that appeals to a 12 year old.

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Old 09-23-2016, 01:42 PM
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I like the way the GTR looks but the maintenance costs on those things is just outrageous ($12K trans than blow, $4K brakes that wear quickly, etc...)

Yes it turns fast lap times, but it's not a driver's car at all. It's a mega-computer on wheels.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Ford is going to produce 250 GT's each year for four years(a total of 1000), thus the high price of $400K.

Acura is going to produce 1000 NSX's the first year(900 for the US and 100 for Japan) with no disclosure on how long they plan to produce the NSX. Acura has the capability to produce approximately 2,000 annually in it's Ohio plant, that was built specifically for the NSX. Thus the relatively low price(for a supercar) of $160K and I bet they plan on building them for a while.
I'm sure more powerful versions will come in the future. This is just a base model like the Stingray was at launch.

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Old 09-23-2016, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
i have an Acura TL Type S. it is a shame they went down hill after 2008


I couldn't agree with you more. I also have a 2007 Type S as my Daily Driver. I still love that car. But I don't know if I'd buy a newer TLX.

Every time I go to the dealership for an oil change, my sales guy keeps telling me how badly he wants my car. It's got 102,000+ miles on it.


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