The C7 Corvette IS mid-engined....
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10-07-2016, 09:49 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'10, '14
Whatever. I like the long hood.
10-07-2016, 08:03 PM
#2
It's "Front mid engine", so technically falls under the definition... there is little to discuss, that's a fact.
10-07-2016, 08:09 PM
#3
Yes, which makes me curious as to why there is such interest in a rear-mid-engine 'Vette. Unless it's just to keep up with the Joneses.
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10-07-2016, 08:10 PM
#4
Probably because it opens the design team up to something new.
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10-07-2016, 08:17 PM
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Because there are advantages to rear mid engine over front mid engine. That's why to the average joe, a mid engine car is really a rear mid engine car.
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10-07-2016, 08:34 PM
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As I understand it, the primary advantage to rear-mid-engine design is that its (usual) rear-weight bias confers some advantage in hooking up the back tires under acceleration. The downside is having the possibility of that mass coming around on you if you get into a corner too hot and hit the brakes. I'm talking civilian cars here, not pure racing cars.
The average Joe needs to read up on this stuff!
The average Joe needs to read up on this stuff!
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10-07-2016, 09:07 PM
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10-07-2016, 09:40 PM
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As I understand it, the primary advantage to rear-mid-engine design is that its (usual) rear-weight bias confers some advantage in hooking up the back tires under acceleration. The downside is having the possibility of that mass coming around on you if you get into a corner too hot and hit the brakes. I'm talking civilian cars here, not pure racing cars.
The average Joe needs to read up on this stuff!
The average Joe needs to read up on this stuff!
All of the weight near the center of gravity gives you a car that handles on pins and needles, but inherently is far more easily pushed into oversteer.
I think it's the total package that makes a front mid engine a competitor to a rear mid engine. I think for a race car, the rear engine is better.
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Whatever. I like the long hood.
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10-07-2016, 10:20 PM
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I can't speak to your Ferrari, but in the C7 the entire engine block is behind the front axle centerline. (Go have a look under the hood.) The transmission is ahead of the rear axle centerline. This by definition is a mid-engine vehicle.
10-07-2016, 10:29 PM
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So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
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10-07-2016, 11:27 PM
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Le Mans Master
Go online look to see where mid-engines are actually located.
Oh, and I don't have to go look under the hood - I have more than 600,000 miles in Corvettes- know them well.
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10-07-2016, 11:54 PM
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Hard to argue with racing success. But we're talking road cars here, and the C7 is a wonderfully balanced car, with all the big chunks of mass between the axles as they should be.
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
The exotic nature of a rear mid engine. The higher cost that it both takes to construct and price it demands.
For 96% of those who want to see it happen, I think it's just a "bring Corvette up to the times" type of deal. That's my opinion anyway.
I do agree with you btw, that a front mid engine does make a much better road sports car, and although the driving dynamics are very different, can compete very well with rear mid engines when executed properly.
This has been Corvettes formula and why it is still the way it is. It's a great formula, but some get caught up in the hype and want to see change.
I, myself, would like to see it happen just for the sake of seeing how the Corvette team executes it, and at a good price point.
Actually man, he's 100% correct. By definition the Corvette has long been a mid engine car, and still is. There are multiple types of mid engines, I would take your own advice and look it up.
10-08-2016, 12:15 AM
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Team Owner
Then, technically since the C2 platform the Corvette has been a front mounted mid engine car as my 1964 coupe has a 48/52 weight distribution, better than the C5, the C6 and the C7.
10-08-2016, 07:32 AM
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Hard to argue with racing success. But we're talking road cars here, and the C7 is a wonderfully balanced car, with all the big chunks of mass between the axles as they should be.
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
I prefer the present layout of front mid engine....and I am not convinced performance will improve dramatically....on the track etc...
The present z06 runs faster than the Ferrari 488 and mclaren and the Porsche turbo s...and the Lamborghini huracan....etc
But from a new look perspective I think the c8 will be pretty bad @ss...and I'm sure performance will somehow manage to increase the already impressive performance
10-08-2016, 08:21 AM
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Hard to argue with racing success. But we're talking road cars here, and the C7 is a wonderfully balanced car, with all the big chunks of mass between the axles as they should be.
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
So, again, why do some Corvette afficionados clamor for a rear-mid-engine 'Vette? Particularly since the whole line has been front-engine?
Would a rear-mid-engine car be a "real" Corvette?
10-08-2016, 08:30 AM
#19
Really? I thought the c7 was 50/50? The weight distribution is irrelevant in thus discussion as the engine location in relationship to the axels is what makes a mid engine car.
10-08-2016, 08:46 AM
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