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Old 10-26-2016, 09:02 PM
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Gs=fake z06
Gs=BMW 550 with m package
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Old 10-26-2016, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
you realize that this car/chassis can handle the extra power the LT4 has correct?
Actually, I think that Randy Probst said that he thought the car couldn't handle the power. And so did MotorTrend on youTube.

Originally Posted by 16/C7Z
The way I see it, the experienced track driver trying to set the record wants the Z06 (and most of us like to consider ourselves in that category lol)
Not everyone. I used to have a Porsche Turbo heavily modified for the track and I was faster than almost everyone. Actually the car, not me, was faster than everyone. Now I'm tracking a Z51. I find it way more fun running down supposedly faster cars. And once again, Randy Probst is a pretty experienced track driver and he didn't mind that the GS was "slower". Nor did the Grand Sport driver from this year's Lightning Lap.


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Old 10-26-2016, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cnd Chance
Yeah you are so right it's soooo slow a whole 2 or so seconds behind a Z06 at VIR...oh and equal to a GT3RS and faster than a GT3, Turbo S, Viper, Huracan, McLaren...



Yeah "sure" trust him don't buy a Grand Sport. I own one and I can tell you it's so terribly "FUN"!

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Old 10-26-2016, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Call
it
how I see it....

Talk is cheap
You are correct! Settle it on a road course and stay all session every session before you down play how great another Corvette is at what it was designed for.... useable power and amazing handling.

I faced the Zo6 vs GS dilemma, I ended up buying a 17 GS 2LT 7spd Zo7 pkg. If I bought a 16 Zo6 I would have had the same heat issues I did when tracking my 15 ZL1.

Didn't seem like a smart purchase (track focused members) to jump back into a SC that has cooling issues and dealing with all of the mods. If fixed in 17 Zo6 I would consider that an option.
Old 10-26-2016, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Niemienator
You are correct! Settle it on a road course and stay all session every session before you down play how great another Corvette is at what it was designed for.... useable power and amazing handling.

I faced the Zo6 vs GS dilemma, I ended up buying a 17 GS 2LT 7spd Zo7 pkg. If I bought a 16 Zo6 I would have had the same heat issues I did when tracking my 15 ZL1.

Didn't seem like a smart purchase (track focused members) to jump back into a SC that has cooling issues and dealing with all of the mods. If fixed in 17 Zo6 I would consider that an option.
LOL

Z06 off idle makes almost as much torque as the GS at peak.

Keep telling yourself its better than a Z06.

For 99% of the driving most people do.

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Old 10-27-2016, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanimal
Actually, I think that Randy Probst said that he thought the car couldn't handle the power. And so did MotorTrend on youTube.



Not everyone. I used to have a Porsche Turbo heavily modified for the track and I was faster than almost everyone. Actually the car, not me, was faster than everyone. Now I'm tracking a Z51. I find it way more fun running down supposedly faster cars. And once again, Randy Probst is a pretty experienced track driver and he didn't mind that the GS was "slower". Nor did the Grand Sport driver from this year's Lightning Lap.
This is right on. People that spend a lot of time at the track quickly realize they can go faster in a slower car. It takes years of experience to learn to use the power. I see it all the time at the track, lower HP cars and bikes with a better/more experienced driver will blow away the guys with fast cars/bikes. That said, if your just out to have fun why not buy more HP. There is no winning track days because it is not a race. It's all about what is fun for you. If you are racing, your going to go a different route anyway.

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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
LOL

Z06 off idle makes almost as much wtorque as the GS at peak.

Keep telling yourself its better than a Z06.

For 99% of the driving most people do.
If you read my reply you will see that I never said the GS was better. Just better for me and those who actually track their cars.

I enjoy my new Corvette. Hope you enjoy yours.... without feeling the need to talk sh;t about other corvettes built for different buyers.
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Old 10-27-2016, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tzoid9
I'd be willing to wager that far less than 25% are tracking them and that percentage is far less than "most".
According to GM, it's < 10%.

Originally Posted by Stanimal
When the magazines reviewed the Z06 it seemed that everyone had some kind of gripe with it. They often called the Z06 a little squirrely.
The Z06 can't be driven like most cars.
The throttle has to be squeezed initially, not hammered.
Otherwise, you will find yourself straddling something akin to a very angry riding bull.

Originally Posted by Stanimal
Actually, I think that Randy Probst said that he thought the car couldn't handle the power. And so did MotorTrend on youTube.
I do recall something to that effect too...
Old 10-27-2016, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Niemienator
If you read my reply you will see that I never said the GS was better. Just better for me and those who actually track their cars.

I enjoy my new Corvette. Hope you enjoy yours.... without feeling the need to talk sh;t about other corvettes built for different buyers.
Just stating facts...
Old 10-27-2016, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
LOL

Z06 off idle makes almost as much torque as the GS at peak.

Keep telling yourself its better than a Z06.

For 99% of the driving most people do.
This guy is SOOOO offended that someone would choose a "lesser trim" than he did on a C7. It's hilarious! So desperate to defend your purchase. Believe it or not; others opinions have NO impact on your life. (gasp!) You're not going to change their mind.
Personally, I don't want a track-focused car that can't go around the track. Regardless of how much torque it makes off-idle. Guess that's the only place you can use it without overheating, yes??
You made a terrible choice, get over it!
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Niemienator
If you read my reply you will see that I never said the GS was better. Just better for me and those who actually track their cars.

I enjoy my new Corvette. Hope you enjoy yours.... without feeling the need to talk sh;t about other corvettes built for different buyers.
:agree: Maybe he suffers from reading comprehension issues.
Old 10-27-2016, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LoganExplosion
This guy is SOOOO offended that someone would choose a "lesser trim" than he did on a C7. It's hilarious! So desperate to defend your purchase. Believe it or not; others opinions have NO impact on your life. (gasp!) You're not going to change their mind.
Personally, I don't want a track-focused car that can't go around the track. Regardless of how much torque it makes off-idle. Guess that's the only place you can use it without overheating, yes??
You made a terrible choice, get over it!
Yup Z06 total **** box

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Originally Posted by rob62
:agree: Maybe he suffers from reading comprehension issues.
Nailed it can't even understand you
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
When we can't be intelligent lets resort to sarcasm...
Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Lol indeed, yeah always a faster car around the corner

ZR1

Then the mid engine

Then the Nuclear Powered Vette!

My fragile head is going NUCLEAR!!!
Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
LOL

Z06 off idle makes almost as much torque as the GS at peak.

Keep telling yourself its better than a Z06.

For 99% of the driving most people do.
Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Yup Z06 total **** box
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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No point in a battle of wits with those who are unarmed...
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Originally Posted by Torchsport
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
How can anyone take this troll seriously with your avatar
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Old 10-27-2016, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Yup Z06 total **** box
Well, it can't do what it was designed to do. So you may be finally getting it.. I, for one, blame Obama
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If the OP has made it this far into the thread...

I'd ask, how much power is too much? Do you like a kick in the pants, of the pucker-inducing variety? Most of the Z owners are going to say the power is fine, though most will advise care with mashing the velocitator. For me, the LT-1 is just fine, I like the 460 horses and I feel it's perfect for this platform.

Therefore, the Z is worth it if you want the insane power, otherwise, it may very well be a waste, since you're not likely to use most of that potential. If you've had a chance to test drive them, let us know your thoughts.

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Old 10-27-2016, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LoganExplosion
Well, it can't do what it was designed to do. So you may be finally getting it.. I, for one, blame Obama
it does champ it puts a smile in my face every time.

if you want a car to drive on a racetrack buy a racecar.

Gs and Z are cars to drive on the street that can go on a track I'm guessing your car has a licence plate

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