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I have not researched this and I noticed know one has brought it up but what about resale on the Jag? Vettes tend to hold their value well. I would assume a R would hold its value but I don't know about the regular F type. I was talking to a guy that was a buyer for a particular dealership the other day and he said Jags drop like a rock in value. I was interested because my wife is looking for a car in the next few months and she likes the F type.
I have not researched this and I noticed know one has brought it up but what about resale on the Jag? Vettes tend to hold their value well. I would assume a R would hold its value but I don't know about the regular F type. I was talking to a guy that was a buyer for a particular dealership the other day and he said Jags drop like a rock in value. I was interested because my wife is looking for a car in the next few months and she likes the F type.
The R's and all fully-loaded cars suffer the worst depreciation. A '15 w/ a sticker price of $115K is listed in the $70K-range today. However, the V6 base cars are doing fairly well with regard to resale value.
However, that's pretty much true of all cars in that price bracket and class. They all depreciate dramatically in the first 2 years, which in my view makes a low mileage one a GREAT deal today.
If you're talking about the automatic, I've driven both the A6, which my wife had in a Cadillac ATS, and the A8, which both have perceptible lags. The A8 is better than the A6. However, the JLR version of the ZF8 has no perceptible lag at all. It feels essentially the same as the Porsche PDK.
If you're talking about the F-Type manual, I've driven it too, and the throws are much too long in my view. A friend of mine is trying to get Fidanza to build a short-throw kit similar to the ones they offer for BMWs, but they seem to think there are too few manual F-Types to make it worth their while.
The C7 Tremec M7 is light years better than the F-Type manual.
Yea if I get a Vette, it will absolutely be a manual no questions but with the 15' R I have to get an auto. I heard the shifts are quick its the response time from when you hit the paddle where the lag comes from. Which makes sense because its not a true dual clutch. Curious if you have any input on that.
Out of all the reviews I've read since the C7 Stingray first came out 3 years ago I have YET and I mean NEVER read an overall negative review on this car. Yes there were a few things here and there that a reviewer didn't like, yes the styling is controversial (subjective), yes it's a Chevrolet build but overall, this is as close to a perfect sports car as one can get without paying over 100k.
Yea if I get a Vette, it will absolutely be a manual no questions but with the 15' R I have to get an auto. I heard the shifts are quick its the response time from when you hit the paddle where the lag comes from. Which makes sense because its not a true dual clutch. Curious if you have any input on that.
I don't know where you heard that (there are always outlier perceptions), but 99% of F-Type owners don't report that lag and would disagree. The lag between paddle input and shift is very noticeable on the A8, but it's virtually instant on the ZF8 as set-up by JLR. I drove my F-Type and a 911 PDK back-to-back, and felt both were equally instant.
All the reviews I've read on the F-Type rave about how great the instant paddle-shifts are on the ZF8, and compare it favorably to the PDK, which is the gold-standard.
My only complaint of the F-Type, at least aesthetically, is the god awful and butt-ugly "gills" on the front.
If I was in the market, I would have to have a dark color to help blend them in with the rest of the car.
Another thing I recall about the R is something Pobst mentioned in his review of having difficulty getting the power to the ground (like the Z06) without it all ending up in smoke.
He recommended Jaguar put in softer rear springs for the V8 car.
All a personal taste thing. I think the car is a styling masterpiece, and that the front (gills and all) and rear are drop-dead, gorgeous. Those gills are functional brake cooling ducts. Here's mine:
My only complaint of the F-Type, at least aesthetically, is the god awful and butt-ugly "gills" on the front.
If I was in the market, I would have to have a dark color to help blend them in with the rest of the car.
Another thing I recall about the R is something Pobst mentioned in his review of having difficulty getting the power to the ground (like the Z06) without it all ending up in smoke.
He recommended Jaguar put in softer rear springs for the V8 car.
Yea definitely a taste thing. I for one LOVE the way the Jag looks. Not so much the convertible (sorry Foosh) but the coupe looks good at every angle.
That being said, so does the Vette. I know I am pretty young but I love the new "modern" look.
They both excel in the looks department which is why this is so difficult.
I don't know where you heard that (there are always outlier perceptions), but 99% of F-Type owners don't report that lag and would disagree. The lag between paddle input and shift is very noticeable on the A8, but it's virtually instant on the ZF8 as set-up by JLR. I drove my F-Type and a 911 PDK back-to-back, and felt both were equally instant.
All the reviews I've read on the F-Type rave about how great the instant paddle-shifts are on the ZF8, and compare it favorably to the PDK, which is the gold-standard.
This is comforting. I definitely will be able to test this as well when I do a test drive.
All a personal taste thing. I think the car is a styling masterpiece, and that the front (gills and all) and rear are drop-dead, gorgeous. Those gills are functional brake cooling ducts. Here's mine:
Yea definitely a taste thing. I for one LOVE the way the Jag looks. Not so much the convertible (sorry Foosh) but the coupe looks good at every angle.
That being said, so does the Vette. I know I am pretty young but I love the new "modern" look.
They both excel in the looks department which is why this is so difficult.
LOL . . . no apology necessary. There are convertible people and there are coupe people. The C7 is about my 24th convertible (lost count), and I've not been without one in my stable since 1978.
I personally prefer the looks of both the C7 and F-Type convertibles to the coupes
Salem's pictures above nicely show the differences between the RWD and AWD F-Types. The white one is a RWD car. The dark one is an AWD car. Notice the wider hood bulge and lower hood vent location on the dark car. The engine in the AWD had to be mounted higher, which necessitated a bigger, taller hood bulge to accommodate the front transfer case.
All a personal taste thing. I think the car is a styling masterpiece, and that the front (gills and all) and rear are drop-dead, gorgeous. Those gills are functional brake cooling ducts. Here's mine:
if you look at the basic architecture these three cars are similar:
Salem's pictures above nicely show the differences between the RWD and AWD F-Types. The white one is a RWD car. The dark one is an AWD car. Notice the wider hood bulge and lower hood vent location on the dark car. The engine in the AWD had to be mounted higher, which necessitated a bigger, taller hood bulge to accommodate the front transfer case.
Sorry, I wasn't aware it was the AWD.
I just pulled the pic off Google Images...
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