DSC Sport Magnetic Shock controller observations
08-31-2017, 10:41 PM
#1021
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I'm glad I fished a USB cable up into the engine bay, that sure made doing the 8-28 update much easier and I'm glad it worked with the controller plugged in.
Anyone get to put some miles on it or done any track days? I'd love to hear some feedback since I don't plan to take the GS out for a couple weeks. The roads have all kinds of crap on them and there is still high water around.
Anyone get to put some miles on it or done any track days? I'd love to hear some feedback since I don't plan to take the GS out for a couple weeks. The roads have all kinds of crap on them and there is still high water around.
08-31-2017, 11:48 PM
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^ Clay, I might be missing your point 
But are you referring to making changes to pdts files, or recent multiple Updates to the Firmware.
There were problems in the Original Firmware in the Velocity table.
DSC fixed this with the 08-14-17 Firmware, but one Bug remained.
Hence the reason for the 08-28-17 Firmware which should be good now.
In my Quote, I wanted to alert others that are modifying their files.
Some of us, and I presume Mike too, are tweaking pdts Files, but in different "modes", for different reasons.
But, the 08-28-17 Firmware changed how the pdts files work now, modified or not.
In my case, I'm trying to perfect Tour Mode to my liking.
Sport and Track are fine IMO.
With the 08-14-17 Firmware, my Tour mode was perfect for "me" .
My friend down the street is also running my Tour pdts file in his Base Vert / MSRC and likes it.
With the 08-28-17 Firmware installed, he also mentioned a slightly stiffer ride now.
With that feedback, at least I know it's not my imagination
Either way, now we can modify our files knowing the Firmware is working correctly.
YMMV
PS: Yes, it's very possible we actually are OC
But are you referring to making changes to pdts files, or recent multiple Updates to the Firmware.
There were problems in the Original Firmware in the Velocity table.
DSC fixed this with the 08-14-17 Firmware, but one Bug remained.
Hence the reason for the 08-28-17 Firmware which should be good now.
In my Quote, I wanted to alert others that are modifying their files.
Some of us, and I presume Mike too, are tweaking pdts Files, but in different "modes", for different reasons.
But, the 08-28-17 Firmware changed how the pdts files work now, modified or not.
In my case, I'm trying to perfect Tour Mode to my liking.
Sport and Track are fine IMO.
With the 08-14-17 Firmware, my Tour mode was perfect for "me" .
My friend down the street is also running my Tour pdts file in his Base Vert / MSRC and likes it.
With the 08-28-17 Firmware installed, he also mentioned a slightly stiffer ride now.
With that feedback, at least I know it's not my imagination
Either way, now we can modify our files knowing the Firmware is working correctly.
YMMV
PS: Yes, it's very possible we actually are OC
I really thrashed my car today on the drive to work and back home, because DC and the burbs are relatively empty in August just before Labor Day. Based upon your comments, I think I'm going stick with the 8/14 firmware for awhile, because I think it's great and was a noticeable upgrade. My Tour mode is now just the right amount of soft and firm.
09-01-2017, 01:10 AM
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^ I hear you Clay 
I was happy with the original improvements until I installed the Tour Plush.
That spoiled me
Especially after the 08-14-17 Firmware update and haven't ruled out putting it back in.
As I said, I don't think we're all looking for the same thing from the Controller so it's nice to have the options.
Have a good Holiday
I was happy with the original improvements until I installed the Tour Plush.
That spoiled me
Especially after the 08-14-17 Firmware update and haven't ruled out putting it back in.
As I said, I don't think we're all looking for the same thing from the Controller so it's nice to have the options.
Have a good Holiday
Last edited by Dif; 09-01-2017 at 03:13 AM.
09-01-2017, 07:08 AM
#1024
Former Vendor
Quick questions:
Will DSC do an install of their controller unit in my Mag Ride equipped C7 on somewhat short notice, if I am driving through there on my return from MacMulkin Chev?
Is there an up charge for them to do the installation above the cost of the controller? If so, how much?
Will DSC do an install of their controller unit in my Mag Ride equipped C7 on somewhat short notice, if I am driving through there on my return from MacMulkin Chev?
Is there an up charge for them to do the installation above the cost of the controller? If so, how much?
09-01-2017, 07:16 AM
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^ Anytime Firmware is installed/updated, the Shocks need to be Zeroed again.
Firmware can be installed without disconnecting the Controller.
And needs to be done with the car completely Off.
Afterwards, power up the ignition with engine Off and use the Program Software to verify the new Firmware Version.
I did mine and a friend's that way.
Firmware can be installed without disconnecting the Controller.
And needs to be done with the car completely Off.
Afterwards, power up the ignition with engine Off and use the Program Software to verify the new Firmware Version.
I did mine and a friend's that way.
09-01-2017, 07:22 AM
#1026
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Hmmmmm....the only reason I haven't run a USB cable from the DSC to my engine bay is because they say you need to disconnect the controller after the firmware update...can others verify if in fact they haven't had to disconnect the controller after the firmware update?
09-01-2017, 09:11 AM
#1028
Melting Slicks
So two questions to the audience, After a firmware update do Shocks need to be Zeroed again, didn't hear that on the video, is a pdts file installed at the time of the firmware and eprom? I love the controller and usually not a complainer but IMO DSC's directions can be somewhat vague and or lacking on these things.
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09-01-2017, 09:40 AM
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So two questions to the audience, After a firmware update do Shocks need to be Zeroed again, didn't hear that on the video, is a pdts file installed at the time of the firmware and eprom? I love the controller and usually not a complainer but IMO DSC's directions can be somewhat vague and or lacking on these things.
09-01-2017, 09:42 AM
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It's not that big of a deal to remove / access...you don't have to take off the wheel just turn it all the way to the left and you can take out the screws etc and access...
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09-01-2017, 10:42 AM
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So two questions to the audience, After a firmware update do Shocks need to be Zeroed again, didn't hear that on the video, is a pdts file installed at the time of the firmware and eprom? I love the controller and usually not a complainer but IMO DSC's directions can be somewhat vague and or lacking on these things.
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09-01-2017, 10:46 AM
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Hmmmmm....the only reason I haven't run a USB cable from the DSC to my engine bay is because they say you need to disconnect the controller after the firmware update...can others verify if in fact they haven't had to disconnect the controller after the firmware update?
So two questions to the audience, After a firmware update do Shocks need to be Zeroed again, didn't hear that on the video, is a pdts file installed at the time of the firmware and eprom? I love the controller and usually not a complainer but IMO DSC's directions can be somewhat vague and or lacking on these things.
They don't need to be done again when changing, installing, new pdts files.
Don't know how it's done with Wi-Fi.
But with USB connection, the car needs to be powered Off, no Ignition mode, no Accessory mode.
Open the DSC Utility and plug the USB cable into the Laptop and Install the Firmware.
After the Firmware is installed, pull the USB cord out of the Laptop and plug it back in again.
That powers down and resets the Controller and works the same as unplugging the Controller from the car.
I've done it this way twice now without removing the Controller.
Then unplug the USB cord from the Laptop, put the car into Ignition mode, open the "Programming" Software and plug the USB cable in again.
Then you can read the file and Firmware Version in the Controller.
And add or modify pdts files.
To confirm the Firmware Version:
In the Programming Software, click Tools, then Test Serial Port.
In the drop down menu click Start.
In the long space to the left type the letter V, then click Send.
In the bigger space to the right, the Firmware Version in the Controller will appear.
Yes the Firmware comes with pdts file when it's installed.
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09-01-2017, 11:39 AM
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Melting Slicks
Anytime Firmware is installed, the shocks need to be Zero'd afterwards.
They don't need to be done again when changing, installing, new pdts files.
Don't know how it's done with Wi-Fi.
But with USB connection, the car needs to be powered Off, no Ignition mode, no Accessory mode.
Open the DSC Utility and plug the USB cable into the Laptop and Install the Firmware.
After the Firmware is installed, pull the USB cord out of the Laptop and plug it back in again.
That powers down and resets the Controller and works the same as unplugging the Controller from the car.
I've done it this way twice now without removing the Controller.
Then unplug the USB cord from the Laptop, put the car into Ignition mode, open the "Programming" Software and plug the USB cable in again.
Then you can read the file and Firmware Version in the Controller.
And add or modify pdts files.
To confirm the Firmware Version:
In the Programming Software, click Tools, then Test Serial Port.
In the drop down menu click Start.
In the long space to the left type the letter V, then click Send.
In the bigger space to the right, the Firmware Version in the Controller will appear.
Yes the Firmware comes with pdts file when it's installed.
They don't need to be done again when changing, installing, new pdts files.
Don't know how it's done with Wi-Fi.
But with USB connection, the car needs to be powered Off, no Ignition mode, no Accessory mode.
Open the DSC Utility and plug the USB cable into the Laptop and Install the Firmware.
After the Firmware is installed, pull the USB cord out of the Laptop and plug it back in again.
That powers down and resets the Controller and works the same as unplugging the Controller from the car.
I've done it this way twice now without removing the Controller.
Then unplug the USB cord from the Laptop, put the car into Ignition mode, open the "Programming" Software and plug the USB cable in again.
Then you can read the file and Firmware Version in the Controller.
And add or modify pdts files.
To confirm the Firmware Version:
In the Programming Software, click Tools, then Test Serial Port.
In the drop down menu click Start.
In the long space to the left type the letter V, then click Send.
In the bigger space to the right, the Firmware Version in the Controller will appear.
Yes the Firmware comes with pdts file when it's installed.
09-01-2017, 11:55 AM
#1035
Melting Slicks
So you can't re zero the shocks without the ignition on? From the video it seemed everything had to be done with the ignition off.
DSC, can you post the correct way to re zero the shocks?
DSC, can you post the correct way to re zero the shocks?
09-01-2017, 12:03 PM
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Ok bear with me here, just a heads up.
When I experiment modifying my Tour settings, I only Write the Tour table of the pdts file into the controller.
I do not Write the complete pdts file over.
A friend just texted me and noticed the settings in Track in the new 08-28-17 Firmware pdts file, are the "same" as Sport.
I had Saved that pdts file and just checked it.
And the G settings and Shock settings in Sport and Track, do both Look the same
So anyone running the base pdts files that came with the 08-28-17 Firmware should check the Sport and Track settings in the Controller !
If you re-installed any previous "Complete" pdts file of your preference into the Controller you should be good.
Anyone else notice this?
DSC ?
When I experiment modifying my Tour settings, I only Write the Tour table of the pdts file into the controller.
I do not Write the complete pdts file over.
A friend just texted me and noticed the settings in Track in the new 08-28-17 Firmware pdts file, are the "same" as Sport.
I had Saved that pdts file and just checked it.
And the G settings and Shock settings in Sport and Track, do both Look the same
So anyone running the base pdts files that came with the 08-28-17 Firmware should check the Sport and Track settings in the Controller !
If you re-installed any previous "Complete" pdts file of your preference into the Controller you should be good.
Anyone else notice this?
DSC ?
09-01-2017, 12:09 PM
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The Ignition needs to be On to Read and Write files, .. and to Zero the shocks.
The shocks need Current flowing to them in order to Zero them
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09-01-2017, 12:20 PM
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See these details don't seem to be included with DSC's vid or anything else of there's. Without users I think I wouldn't have a clue on the correct way to do this. Even then there sometimes can be conflicting opinions such as the fact in the last several post you do and don't need to re-zero.
It takes some time.
But I viewed the many DSC Training videos multiple times and again, it takes some time, but 90% of the correct info is in them
Last edited by Dif; 09-01-2017 at 12:21 PM.
09-01-2017, 12:28 PM
#1039
Melting Slicks
But they really should just tell the basic steps for a firmware install in an 1, 2 ,3 what you need to do and don't need to. Just saying