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Pacembellum

no no no, you have it all wrong. The car is supposed to just LOOK fast, not actually be fast. Didnt youread the responses to my first post here on potential weight reduction?

the chrome wheels and tan top on a red corvette crowdhas decided that they must be mercedes SL in a corvette shape with just enough power to pass someone leaving NYC. 😂😂😂

jimmbbo

Have you priced a GT350R compared to the GT Premium?

BASE PRICES from ford.com
GT Premium - $38590
350GTR - $65640
DIFFERENCE - $27050, or 42% MORE

The point is that GM has hit a sweet spot with the 'vette, and also realize that there will ALWAYS be some who aren't happy or could "do it better", AND they bet a LOT of money redesigning the C7, believing that they could create a fine automobile for a decent price for the vast majority of buyers. Most owners agree, as do the automotive media...
I rest my case as a very happy C7 owner, and you are free to believe whatever you wish, and are free to buy a GT350R if its features are that important to you..

Pacembellum

gt350 and base GT are not the same model, thats like me saying a base stingray is 55k and a fully optioned z06 is 115k.

Even with the same model apparently you've never priced out a 1lz vs 3lz with carbon dual roof, carbon hood, carbon spoiler, carbon ground effects, chrome wheels, etc...because thats $19k right there. Not to mention you can throw in z07 on top for another 8 grand or so.

or maybe base z06 vs ZR1 you think vette owners cant spend money?

you're not resting your case you just dont know what you are talking about.

jimmbbo

Angry ad hominem assaults do nothing to prove your point... Game over. I'm out.

Grimlock13

Isn't $200K and has a Carbon Tub. Just got rid of my C6 for one.

Are there compromises, yes there are, is it for everyone, nope.

Yes I know, they don't offer a true manual which counts out alot of people.

Yes, it's smaller then the Vette, harder to get in a out of.

Yes, it is a turbo 4 cylinder vs a V8.

Yes, there is almost no storage, just a small trunk that gets hot due to being behind the engine.

Pacembellum

the show and slow crowd has already spoken stop resorting to ad hominem arguments. They cant possibly get lighter unless they are 200k 🙄🙄

Lighter 19" wheels all around with non runflats would literally save 40lbs of rotating weight.

ditching the blower would have saved 100lbs and they could make 600hp from a NA engine AND still made emissions.

sport seats with manual slider base is about 20lbs for both.

lithium battery Is under $1000 to save 30lbs

thats almost 200lbs and didn't touch sound deadening, stereo, or AC. 3300lb Z06 with 600hp NA would be insane.

village idiot

Yeah, I'd love a "1LE" version of the C7. It's surprising they make a low production version like the ZR1 and not a stripper model like a 1LE.

pdiddy972

Yeah, why should the lower end 4-seater Camaro have this option but not the Vette?

village idiot

Valid argument, but my question was more asking why they wouldn't do it because it's considerably less engineering work to make a stripper model than one with a different powertrain, drive train, aerodynamics, suspension calibration, body work, cooling, etc. I'm fairly confident the "1LE" version would take considerably less validation. If there was a 1LE C7, I'd probably have that and a daily driver rather than a GS (which was about as close to a 1LE as I could find).

jimmbbo

From 2014-17, Chevrolet produced 304000 Camaros and 145,000 Corvettes...
With fewer than half the number produced, adding more models drives the costs up across the board and cannibalizes the other model line sales.

TXshaggy

jimmbbo

I suspect the market for Camaros is vastly different than for the Corvette...

village idiot

Pacembellum

Felt like bumping an old thread because this is how stupid GM IS . They could have had our cars down to 3375 with MINIMAL expense.

forged wheel option for $3000 (msrp 3800) -28lbs
Katech flywheel option for $1000 (msrp 699) - 24 lbs
hooker shorty headers - $500 (msrp $699) - 19lbs
antigravity battery -500 (msrp 750) - 30lbs
girodisc rotors for iron brake cars (no charge) -19lbs
akrapovic axle back for $3000 (msrp 5000 ish) - 13 lbs

thats 133lbs and judging by how many boxes a lot of us C7 owners ticked like the silly z07 package this would have been a beautiful concept similar to Porsche Weissach package. So $8000 in options to get a c7 down to real sports car weight of the class it’s in.

pdiddy972

133 pounds doesn’t even get you half way. Isn’t the C8 like 3650 pounds?

juanvaldez

Doesn't the GTR weigh more than 4,000 lbs.

pdiddy972

Yes. How does that help the guy I replied to get the C8 from 3650 to 3300-something by shaving a bit over 100 pounds?

EVRGRN

Great post and solid list. When/if I start modding my Z06, it will be for weight-reduction to improve handling and responsiveness.

449er

The C7 & the C8 are getting fatter because of creature comforts ( everyone has to have them ) & safety features ( the government wants them as do the people who buy them ), its as simple as that