Speeding ticket for 6MPH over speed limit-Vette tax
02-16-2017, 01:40 PM
#241
fellow forum members I have had a bad day and I thought I would share...
started at 4:30 AM in DC with snow falling and flights being cancelled...mad dash to the airport and hoping my flight was still happening.
I got to the Orlando airport went to the parking structure to my velocity yellow Z51 and noticed some recent rain drops so I opened the hatch got my micro fiber towel and wiped down the car. There were some spots on the hatch so I of course shut it with my bag in the back. Did I mention my keys were in my bag? Yup locked the keys in the back and I'm a cheap bastard so I do not pay for onstar. I had to call my wife who had to go to our house and get my spare fob and then she had to drive it all the way to dumbass me at the airport.
I had a meeting in Tampa so this put me a few hours behind.
I got the new fob jumped in the car and headed to Tampa. Not 2 miles from the airport on the 528 which is a 6 line highway, I was cruising along in the left lane behind a piece of junk Kia at a blistering 61 MPH in a 55 MPH when a FHP Highway Patrolman came flying up behind me, I pulled to the right and he stayed with me. I could not believe I was being pulled over. When he came to the window he said he pulled me over for speeding. I pointed out there was a car in front of me who must have been going just a little faster than me and wondered why I got pulled over but they did not. He got pissed and told me to stay in my car. He never asked for my proof of insurance or registration. He came back a little later and gave me a ticket for going 6 miles over the speed limit 61MPH in a 55MPH on a 6 lane highway.
When I pointed out as he would have seen when he ran my license that I had not had a ticket or even been pulled over for almost 14 years he handed me the ticket and said try not to let it happen again.
The ticket is only $129 and at first I thought about fighting it. I have a dash camera so and I can prove the POS in front of me was let go while the yellow Corvette was pulled over but the bottom line is I was going faster than the posted speed limit. I suspect any judge would not be very considerate of the guy driving the corvette so I would get hit with the original fine plus court fees.
I am fully convinced the only reason I got the ticket was to pay the Corvette Tax....
ok I'm done venting...
thanks for listening...
Gary
started at 4:30 AM in DC with snow falling and flights being cancelled...mad dash to the airport and hoping my flight was still happening.
I got to the Orlando airport went to the parking structure to my velocity yellow Z51 and noticed some recent rain drops so I opened the hatch got my micro fiber towel and wiped down the car. There were some spots on the hatch so I of course shut it with my bag in the back. Did I mention my keys were in my bag? Yup locked the keys in the back and I'm a cheap bastard so I do not pay for onstar. I had to call my wife who had to go to our house and get my spare fob and then she had to drive it all the way to dumbass me at the airport.
I had a meeting in Tampa so this put me a few hours behind.
I got the new fob jumped in the car and headed to Tampa. Not 2 miles from the airport on the 528 which is a 6 line highway, I was cruising along in the left lane behind a piece of junk Kia at a blistering 61 MPH in a 55 MPH when a FHP Highway Patrolman came flying up behind me, I pulled to the right and he stayed with me. I could not believe I was being pulled over. When he came to the window he said he pulled me over for speeding. I pointed out there was a car in front of me who must have been going just a little faster than me and wondered why I got pulled over but they did not. He got pissed and told me to stay in my car. He never asked for my proof of insurance or registration. He came back a little later and gave me a ticket for going 6 miles over the speed limit 61MPH in a 55MPH on a 6 lane highway.
When I pointed out as he would have seen when he ran my license that I had not had a ticket or even been pulled over for almost 14 years he handed me the ticket and said try not to let it happen again.
The ticket is only $129 and at first I thought about fighting it. I have a dash camera so and I can prove the POS in front of me was let go while the yellow Corvette was pulled over but the bottom line is I was going faster than the posted speed limit. I suspect any judge would not be very considerate of the guy driving the corvette so I would get hit with the original fine plus court fees.
I am fully convinced the only reason I got the ticket was to pay the Corvette Tax....
ok I'm done venting...
thanks for listening...Gary
02-16-2017, 01:42 PM
#242
Drifting
There are many great LEO's but we never hear much about them because nobody complains about them... it's usually just the power trippers that can give everyone a bad name.
They are people too and deserve to be treated with some respect. And that can go a long way in how you get treated back... i have personally talked my way out of quite a few tickets, just gotten warnings.. as long as you are not seriously breaking the law to the extent of jeapordizing public safety.
They are people too and deserve to be treated with some respect. And that can go a long way in how you get treated back... i have personally talked my way out of quite a few tickets, just gotten warnings.. as long as you are not seriously breaking the law to the extent of jeapordizing public safety.
02-16-2017, 02:13 PM
#243
My earlier question was why don't the good cops weed out the bad ones?
In the many places I worked years ago, whenever a bad apple(s) were detected the rest of us would find a way to make them expendable to management.
It wasn't difficult to formulate a strategy.
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AdventurePoser (02-19-2017)
02-17-2017, 08:06 AM
#244
Drifting
Totally self-inflicted.
02-17-2017, 12:12 PM
#245
Race Director
6MPH over seems a bit extreme but I remember a friend getting cited for 4MPH over. LEOs have been king to me though. Fast driving, no front plate, tinted windows, etc. 
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gwalsh88 (02-17-2017)
02-17-2017, 12:19 PM
#246
Melting Slicks
I have several LEO'S as friends & neighbors.
Many times in small towns like mine,it's not a safety issue but a revenue issue.
They profile people in certain cars,and I get followed often.
If you or I drove a Prius the same speed over the limit,we probably would not be stopped.
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Many times in small towns like mine,it's not a safety issue but a revenue issue.
They profile people in certain cars,and I get followed often.
If you or I drove a Prius the same speed over the limit,we probably would not be stopped.
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gwalsh88 (02-17-2017)
02-17-2017, 12:55 PM
#247
Instructor
I too used to be a police officer... most of us wouldn't even touch pulling someone over unless 10mph over. I would not unless 12mph over and even then it was just because I had PC to check things out. I very rarely issued a ticket, and if I did it was normally because someone talked themselves into it or did something really egregious like running a stale red light. I wouldn't have even looked at you twice other than to admire the Corvette...
I to have run in to less than friendly cops, but its hard to argue, if your in the wrong, best to be polite and honest and hope for the best.
One last comment, I very seldom pulled more than one car over at a time, usually the last one, for me it was a matter of safety (easier to get one car to the shoulder than two).
Keep in mind Law Enforcement is a difficult job especially in these times.
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02-17-2017, 01:57 PM
#248
Drifting
One Saturday I was visiting my son at Camp Pendleton, CA where he was stationed in the USMC.
The base is huge and winds through beautiful canyons and very scenic outlooks.
Anyway, I got pulled over by an MP who told me he had me clocked at 22 mph in a 20 zone. He was firm and civil. Likewise I was polite and calm.
He admonished me to "slow down on the base." I crept out at 20 mph without a ticket.
The base is huge and winds through beautiful canyons and very scenic outlooks.
Anyway, I got pulled over by an MP who told me he had me clocked at 22 mph in a 20 zone. He was firm and civil. Likewise I was polite and calm.
He admonished me to "slow down on the base." I crept out at 20 mph without a ticket.
02-17-2017, 02:23 PM
#249
My OnStar trial expired on both my Z06 and the Cadillac ATS4 and the myChevrolet and myCadillac apps both have the remote keyfob functions (unlock, lock, start engine, stop engine, honk/lights and stop honk/lights) and that all still works.
02-17-2017, 02:27 PM
#250
02-17-2017, 02:31 PM
#251
The CITATIONS are for 1-5 MPH over. But the vehicles were travelling in excess of 5 MPH. They are cutting drivers a break by not citing the driver for the FULL violation.
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LT1 Z51 (02-17-2017)
02-17-2017, 02:34 PM
#252
02-17-2017, 02:36 PM
#253
02-17-2017, 02:39 PM
#254
Unless I misread what you wrote, you were pretty much a douche. What was the purpose of saying that to him?
02-17-2017, 02:43 PM
#255
You can FIGHT any ticket, radar or otherwise. Whether not you win has nothing to do with whether or not he used radar.
Most of the time, the officers DO show up. They get paid (more often than not, overtime) to show up. It's a scheduled day for them.
Yes, if the officer fails to show up for a FORMAL hearing, it can be dismissed. The officer does not have to show up for an informal hearing - your case is typically bound over for a formal trial if the judge or magistrate feels that there is evidence to prove you are guilty of the violation.
02-17-2017, 02:50 PM
#256
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
If I had been aware I would not have gotten stuck at the airport and probably would not have gotten the ticket in the first place.
02-17-2017, 02:58 PM
#257
If I had been aware I would not have gotten stuck at the airport and probably would not have gotten the ticket in the first place.
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gwalsh88 (02-17-2017)
02-17-2017, 03:01 PM
#258
02-17-2017, 03:05 PM
#259
I know it's to late now but did you ask to see the radar?
I have gotten out of 2 State Patrol issued speeding tickets because they wouldn't show me the radar. The officer said he didn't have to, both times my lawyer went with me to court and got them dropped. In fact it was so funny in one court appearance my attorney questioned if the officer was competent to be operating a radar speed device since he doesn't know how to lock in the speed. The judge dismissed the ticket and actually had a smirk on his face, and told the officer he never wanted to seem him back in his courtroom if a motorist asks to see the speed and he can't show it.
I have gotten out of 2 State Patrol issued speeding tickets because they wouldn't show me the radar. The officer said he didn't have to, both times my lawyer went with me to court and got them dropped. In fact it was so funny in one court appearance my attorney questioned if the officer was competent to be operating a radar speed device since he doesn't know how to lock in the speed. The judge dismissed the ticket and actually had a smirk on his face, and told the officer he never wanted to seem him back in his courtroom if a motorist asks to see the speed and he can't show it.
The bottom line is that an officer is well within his/her right to deny this request. The radar and/or gun is typically located in the front seat area of her/his vehicle, and the officer does not have to provide you with access to her/his vehicle or the contents of the vehicle.
02-17-2017, 03:09 PM
#260
I took it too court and the judge threw out the ticket. I had to pay ZERO. Why? The judge said that it was not up to the officer to decide which car to pull over and which car to let go..... The officer was honest, at least, when I questioned him about whether the other car was present which led to the judge throwing out the ticket.
It's not about the $129, it's about pushing back on people who don't like you simply because of the car you drive. Fair is fair.
Take it to court, ask the officer about the other car being present, and then why he let the other car go.
It's not about the $129, it's about pushing back on people who don't like you simply because of the car you drive. Fair is fair.
Take it to court, ask the officer about the other car being present, and then why he let the other car go.
If your claim was true, people would simply speed in pairs and nobody's citation would/could ever be held up in court.