atvBob

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read today (other than the previous similar claim).

So if TWO people rob a liquor store and there is only one officer present, he can't arrest the suspect he runs down unless he is ALSO able to catch the other one?

atvBob

Cop was doing what he gets paid to do. If you don't like it, write your legislator and get him/her to change the laws.

atvBob

You'll typically see those kind of citations written when there were additional, more egregious reasons for the stop (e.g., following too closely for the speed traveled), but the officer cuts them a break and gives them a lesser ticket.

atvBob

How long did you work as a LEO and what department(s)?

Yea, I thought so.

sunsalem

True.
In my experiences, it's always a bad idea to tell cops they are not infallible.


Incorrect.
I have seen 1 cop pull over more than one car before.
The procedure used is to drive up to the driver's side window, use a bullhorn and tell them to wait on the side of the road until they return.

atvBob

The CITATION was for 1 MPH over, but how fast was he traveling when he was stopped? Odds are, reasonably faster than 1 MPH over.

atvBob

Not sure how they handle things in YOUR neck of the woods, but those cites are written every day here.

atvBob

That might be the MO in the larger (state) departments, but I can guarantee you that pre and post shift "calibrations" of radar units or speedometers are NOT part of most municipal or county department procedures, nor are tickets dismissed because of same in those jurisdictions.

atvBob

I'm not familiar with FL codified vehicle laws. Can you identify the FL statute to support this claim?

atvBob

No it doesn't. It means stay out of the left lane unless you're passing.

If there are two tables in a restaurant and one is labeled as a handicapped table and the other isn't, does that mean someone who is handicapped can't sit at the non-labeled table?

atvBob

Many courts will add court costs and fees if you plead not guilty, go to trial and are found guilty vs. avoiding court by admitting responsibility and paying the fine.

atvBob

Correct.

Here in MI, roadways with two lanes moving in one direction require to to keep right except to pass.

Three or more lanes moving in one direction do not have the keep right requirement.

If you are otherwise legally occupying any lane other than the left lane in the 2-lane/same direction situation identified above, you are perfectly fine maintaining your lane.

atvBob

In MI, you're only required to keep right except to pass when you are on a roadway with two lanes moving in the same direction. Keep right except to pass does NOT apply to highways with three or more lanes moving in the same direction EXCEPT for large trucks, which must remain out of the left lane unless exiting the roadway.

MCL 257.634 covers lane use. Specifically, subsections (2) and (3) apply to the use of the left-hand lane by traffic.

The only thing you CAN'T do relative to the 3+ lane freeway is travel in the left lane at a speed significantly slower than the rest of the traffic. This does NOT, however, mean you have to travel at 85 mph in a 65 mph zone, simply because others are. THAT is what the MSP has recently started cracking down on folks for doing.

Walt White Coupe

Court costs are chicken feed compared to increased insurance rates for three years. And pleading not guilty in my experience has resulted in the the court magistrate in PA reducing a speeding ticket to 5 over with no points and no reporting to insurance. A damn good deal.

atvBob

The color of the line denotes the direction of travel for the adjoining lanes: White = opposite directions and yellow = same direction. Solid line typically indicates a no passing zone while a dotted line indicates a passing zone . When lines are doubled and one differs (e.g., one solid and the other is dotted means the side with the solid line is in a no passing zone while the dotted line side is in a passing zone.

This is largely standard throughout the US, although some states do allow certain things that others don't (e.g., in CA you can cross over a solid white line to pass, but not a solid yellow line, while in other states you can't cross over a solid white line to pass).

There are far, far too many types of lane markings to discuss in a post. Your local DMV is a good place to learn your state's laws.

atvBob

Not sure about your neck of the woods, but nowadays most insurance companies don't rely on the states' point systems. They have their own. Some of the violations that don't have DMV points associated with them still result in "insurance company points', thus affecting your rates.

If you've been assessed court costs because you fought the ticket and lost, you're going to be paying those court costs AND increased insurance rates, so fighting it and losing doesn't gain anything.

Walt White Coupe

First, if the State has a policy of not reporting infractions that have no State points the insurance company has no way of knowing anything occurred.

What I described in PA is not hypothetical. And it's not about losing or winning. You are still going to pay a fine because you plead guilty to a lesser offense but your insurance will not increase. It amounts to plea bargaining.

AdventurePoser

Personally I did not like it when I'd light up the guy in front of me, and the guy in front of him would also pull over. You never really know what is the situation when that happens...

AdventurePoser

Bob, how often did you guys have to calibrate your radar? If I was working radar, I'd check mine before going 10-8. Everytime, unless there was a urgent pending call to respond first...

Just curious.

Steve

LT1 Z51

In Michigan, it's the law. They have to do that. Certifications and such must be current. Dunno about the shift stuff.

In fact if you can prove the cop radared you at speed you can sometimes get out of a ticket. Michigan law states the officer must "see you travelling at a questionable rate of speed" and the "verify that speed with his radar." Now I last checked those when I was 19 (so in 2000), the law may have changed, but I feel that's why you usually get a break on your ticket here. That way you DON'T fight it. Because either you win, and pay nothing, or you lose and PAY MORE!

EDIT: I see you're in Michigan. So maybe they changed the laws. The last time I looked up this information was again in 2000. I know photo cameras are illegal here because of some wording like that about the officer having to actually SEE you.