Remote start in 2017 manual?
#21
Le Mans Master
It wont start the car if it is not in neutral with the emergency brake on.
Last edited by thill444; 03-27-2017 at 01:13 PM.
#22
Le Mans Master
Corvettes are normally kept in garages, are they not? I suppose there are a few people compelled to store them outside, but it's not normal. So why would you want to remote start your car while it is in the garage? The only good reason would be to gas the cats while you're gone with a dose of carbon monoxide. No mess clean up and you would save on kibbles.
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What if someone comes across an abandoned Corvette in a parking garage with the motor running? All kinds of possibilities come to mind. The argument reminds me of the lane nanny argument where some people want your car to warn you of every hazard. If you want this feature buy an A8. The original question was, does a manual have auto start? Answer= "No." Your choice.
#24
This is not true. Normal battery voltage is around 12.6v. Any time the engine is running and the alternator is working properly, charging system voltage is somewhere 13.5-14.5v average. Therefore, charging the battery. RPM usually has very little effect on voltage output from the alternator.
I often do use remote start on my Z06 and ATS but I engage it as I am walking towards the car so that the engine has dropped to base idle and is ready to go by the time I am belted in. I wouldn't leave any of my vehicles running for an extended time if I am away from them because many things can happen and few of them are good.
#25
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All kinds of possibilities come to mind.
The argument reminds me of the lane nanny argument where some people want your car to warn you of every hazard. If you want this feature buy an A8. The original question was, does a manual have auto start? Answer= "No." Your choice.
#26
Le Mans Master
What if someone comes across an abandoned Corvette in a parking garage with the motor running? All kinds of possibilities come to mind. The argument reminds me of the lane nanny argument where some people want your car to warn you of every hazard. If you want this feature buy an A8. The original question was, does a manual have auto start? Answer= "No." Your choice.
How is the engine running in a manual Corvette any different from the engine running in an automatic in a parking garage?
Lots of people buy cars that don't have remote start installed by the factory and add it later.
Just so you understand how it works, with Compustar the only way you can drive the car is if you are physically in the car with the key. Meaning if someone broke into a car that was running they could not actually put the car into gear without the car stalling/turning off.
Having just moved from Minnesota where I lived for 7+ years I can tell you that remote start is very popular there as an aftermarket add-on.
Last edited by thill444; 03-27-2017 at 02:22 PM.
#27
Drifting
You know that it is feasible given that the computer knows the car is in neutral and the parking brake is fully engaged. This is how rev match works, the computer knows the gear it's going into. You would have to have software that disconnects the clutch safety start. It would only take additional $$$ to furhter develop, but with the small sales of manuals, they must have decided its not worth the $$$.
#28
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There's a company called Compustar that says they have a remote starter compatible with a manual vette if you're really motivated to do this. I don't know anything about them, this was posted on another car board I'm on.
https://www.compustar.com/remote-start/rsd-3400s
https://www.compustar.com/remote-start/rsd-3400s
Park it in neutral.To much hassle for me.
#29
Burning Brakes
Remote Start is the biggest thing I miss going from Auto to Manual C7 ... nothing like starting your Vette from other side of parking lot or parking garage and hear it roar to life. And if you have any enemies its a good car bomb test ...
#31
Drifting
This isn't an issue with the good aftermarket systems. If the key isn't used of fob present, the engine dies with the first touch of the brakes and probably the movement of the P/N switch in a manual application.
What if someone comes across an abandoned Corvette in a parking garage with the motor running? All kinds of possibilities come to mind. The argument reminds me of the lane nanny argument where some people want your car to warn you of every hazard. If you want this feature buy an A8. The original question was, does a manual have auto start? Answer= "No." Your choice.
#33
Melting Slicks
In more modern times, the ignition will not activate the starter if the clutch isn't on the floor.
Start w/ clutch down is so ingrained, its been a long time since I haven't, but IIRC, my C5 does nothing if I turn the key w/o pressing the clutch.
In the 7, if I press the start button w/o the clutch in, screen displays "depress clutch to start" or similar wording.
Given the HUD/screen displays what gear you are in, we know the sensors are in place and at least part of the programming is already there.
Given that, some check like
On remote start signal
If gear = 0
And
Parking brake = on
Then
Energize starter circuit
Else
Ignore start command
Might work.
OTOH, since my driveway is a variable incline of 8 -15 degrees, even with the brake on, I block a wheel and leave the car in a forward gear...dont want to have to retrieve my car from my neighbors driveway in the event the brake fails (or gravity and weight overcome the holding power of the brake.)
#35
Melting Slicks
I'd think that excessive use of remote start in a DI engine would cause even more crap to build up on the valves. On my long gone Caddy Northstars, they had an issue called "cold carbon rap", which was crap built up on the valves to the point where they would kiss the pistons. Main cause was excessive idling as I Recall. Main fix was an Italian tune up.
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Get a battery tender to maintain the battery at full charge. Starting it to charge the battery won't work, you will wear the battery down doing this way. You have a port in the trunk/right side to put a cigarette style charger in to keep it fully charged.
#37
Drifting
I've owned manual cars all my life and I've always left them in neutral. That's what the parking brake is for. I have never ever accidentally left my car in gear. I HAVE had mechanics and others do it, of course. When I crank it and let off the clutch you know what happens? My car doesn't go rocketing through a wall or the car in front of me, or really even move more than like a foot. It jerks a little, gets caught by the e-brake and immediately stalls. The C7 KNOWS what gear I'm in cuz it shows me on the HUD. There's 0 reason they couldn't do remote start on a manual and just have it not start if you're in gear. Same as if you try to crank an automatic and it's in drive. Just doesn't work. I have no clue as to why they won't do it. It's not a safety issue though, otherwise, your passenger window wouldn't be able to auto up, since they'd be afraid a child would decapitate itself.
#39
Drifting
Nope. If there's a curb (assuming you're facing uphill), you turn your front wheels away from the curb so that if your ebrake fails, your front tires hit the curb and stop the car. If there's no curb, you turn your front wheels to the right. Basic driver's ed. I MIGHT put it in gear if I were on an incredibly steep hill like in Frisco or some places in San Diego, but I live in Charleston SC. There are no hills. Super flat
#40
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Corvettes are normally kept in garages, are they not? I suppose there are a few people compelled to store them outside, but it's not normal. So why would you want to remote start your car while it is in the garage? The only good reason would be to gas the cats while you're gone with a dose of carbon monoxide. No mess clean up and you would save on kibbles.