Are there any GM reps on this forum?
#21
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Most businesses including car dealerships have liability insurance to cover their losses as a result of their employee mistakes or mishaps. The dealership may have something like $500 deductible insurance and their insurance provider would require visual proof (agent sees the damaged part) of the claim the dealership would be making to cover the replacement of a $2000 part.
#22
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I doubt if there any reps on here, but I think you're going to have to comply with the dealer's request. Either that, or mail it to them when you can get to your car, and ask them to mail the new one back to you. Someone is paying for that part, either the dealer or GM. And someone wants to see/have the old part that a new one is replacing for whatever reason, such as the one mentioned above. I'm not so sure it's an unreasonable request by the dealer.
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They've got you between that rock, and a hard place. A GM rep. probably can't help as they will tell you they don't control the dealers. Sadly you may just have to do it their way.
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If they thought they could get away with being reimbursed by GM, there's no reason they'd want the old part back. The most GM Customer Service can do is call the dealer and ask for their explanation. If they're not asking for reimbursement, GM can't do a damned thing about the dealer wanting the part they damaged back.
A lot of dealers will sell minor "scratch and dent" parts at a discount, which will at least partially reimburse their costs for having to eat the cost of a new splitter. Somehow I have this feeling that the damage is not terribly serious, and OP's use of the term "ruined" might be slightly overstated.
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Sounds to me the opposite of that. They should obviously know that GM isn't going to reimburse them because it's not a warranty claim, it was dealer-caused damage. Thus, they want the item back for possible repair and re-use.
If they thought they could get away with being reimbursed by GM, there's no reason they'd want the old part back.
If they thought they could get away with being reimbursed by GM, there's no reason they'd want the old part back.
They aren't going to repair and reuse it, that's a small southside shop move, not a franchise new car dealer.
#27
Uh, only problem with your explanation is that dealer caused damage is not covered under warranty. Yes, the manufacturer wants some parts back for problem diagnosis, but it's pretty obvious when a splitter is damaged by carelessness.
As I said above, I've seen a number of new car dealers sell "scratch and dent" parts at a discount. By re-use, I don't mean pawn it off on an unsuspecting customer.
As I said above, I've seen a number of new car dealers sell "scratch and dent" parts at a discount. By re-use, I don't mean pawn it off on an unsuspecting customer.
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Could the dealer be selling "scratch and dent" inventory, WalMart style? Sure I guess, but in 25 years in the auto industry and counting, I haven't seen it once, but you've seen "a number" of them so I will leave some room for possibility.
I've never seen a dealer sell damaged parts but I have seen plenty try to work the system.
#29
Its messed up enough for me to have the need to ask for a new one. They let some dumb kid try and put the car on a fkn alignment rack that had a steep incline ramp. He crunched the splitter right in front of me. I admit the damage is only visible from underneath but there's no way i was letting them do that and not replace the part. I'll be honest i didnt want to put the new splitter on right now i thought i would hold on to it for a while in case the splitter on the car got worse and then replace it which i think i should have the right to do, i dont see why i shouldnt. What could they possibly want with it, if they need visual proof they can have pics i dont see why they need the part.
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I brought my 2017 grand sport to a dealer to have its first oil change back in november 2016 and they ruined my front aero piece. They said they would order me a new piece and now it finally arrived 4 months later, i was told i could go in to pick up the part and when i did they refused to give me the part without first giving them the damaged part. I tried to explain that this wont be possible because i keep the car nearly 100 miles away from that dealer and i cant bring the car all the way down just for that. They refused to give me the part, can i get some help with this? I just want the damn part they promised to replace why are they putting me through this headache???
#31
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The standard splitter that comes with the Grand Sport does not cost $2000.00.
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Same thing happened to me (dealer crunched the carbon fiber splitter). They wanted to get me a new one and replace it, and I said, "Nope. Just give me the cash equivalent of a new splitter." They gave me a check and problem solved.
Tell them to keep the splitter and give you a check instead. Pictures of the damage were sufficient enough to satisfy their insurance company or the general manager or whomever to ok it. That way you don't have to take time off and bring the car in.
Tell them to keep the splitter and give you a check instead. Pictures of the damage were sufficient enough to satisfy their insurance company or the general manager or whomever to ok it. That way you don't have to take time off and bring the car in.
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Why should you even involve a GM Rep? The dealer scratched the car, not GM. GM reps are for resolving warranty issues, not acting as an arbitrator between dealerships and customers. The BBB might be a better bet. And the fact is you took it to them originally, now it's too far away? Doesn't make sense.
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They offered to replace the part, not give you a second part to swap on (or sell) when you see fit. I think their offer is fair. You brought it there once for a $100 oil change so I don't see why you can't bring it there again. Why don't you bring it back for the second oil change?
#36
Its messed up enough for me to have the need to ask for a new one. They let some dumb kid try and put the car on a fkn alignment rack that had a steep incline ramp. He crunched the splitter right in front of me. I admit the damage is only visible from underneath but there's no way i was letting them do that and not replace the part. I'll be honest i didnt want to put the new splitter on right now i thought i would hold on to it for a while in case the splitter on the car got worse and then replace it which i think i should have the right to do, i dont see why i shouldnt. What could they possibly want with it, if they need visual proof they can have pics i dont see why they need the part.
Since the damage isn't visible and probably only cosmetic scrapes you'll only see lying on the ground, it'll last as long as the new one will, if you don't hit it again. It sounds to me that you're the one trying to game the system.
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And now that you have admitted you are trying to keep both splitters in the same thread you are asking for help from GM, how do you think that will play out?
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#38
Lmao, you guys are funny, i'll post pics of the splitter they damaged maybe then you can see im not tryna play ****, they fucked up my car they owe me a new part. Theres no reason for them to take the old splitter theres no point. Im willing to run the damaged splitter on the car for a while cuz its a waste to throw it in the trash, its not a total loss but its also not in proper condition. Doesnt mean they still shouldnt give me a new one for ruining the first one, obviously if there is nothing i can do to simply pick up the part or the equivilant money for it without giving up the damaged part i will just trade them the damaged one for the new one.
I just feel like its a waste to throw a lightly damaged $2k splitter in the trash. I dont agree that all of a sudden they now own the damaged part, thats ridiculous they damaged my property. They shouldnt have any right to ask for any parts off my car.
I just feel like its a waste to throw a lightly damaged $2k splitter in the trash. I dont agree that all of a sudden they now own the damaged part, thats ridiculous they damaged my property. They shouldnt have any right to ask for any parts off my car.
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#39
I think you're funny too.
As Vettetwo said above, no need to discuss it further here. Just call GM and see how that goes.
As Vettetwo said above, no need to discuss it further here. Just call GM and see how that goes.
#40
Whats confusing me is that you seam butthurt about something, you may wanna take it easy there pal.
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