Front brake rotors life expectancy?
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Front brake rotors life expectancy?
Just back from an oil change on my '14 Z51 that has been flawless since day 1 (bought new). Dealer recommended that I replace front brake pads and rotors ($758). Car has 37K miles on it.
Rotors have never been turned nor pads replaced since I owned the car.
Wondering:
1. How many of you out there have replaced front brake rotors? What was your mileage at the time?
2. Is 37K miles a reasonable lifespan? I'm a "spirited" driver
3. How common is it to use up a rotor after 1 set of OEM pads?
4. What is the best place to search for OEM rotors & pads so I can get a sense for the parts cost?
Rotors have never been turned nor pads replaced since I owned the car.
Wondering:
1. How many of you out there have replaced front brake rotors? What was your mileage at the time?
2. Is 37K miles a reasonable lifespan? I'm a "spirited" driver
3. How common is it to use up a rotor after 1 set of OEM pads?
4. What is the best place to search for OEM rotors & pads so I can get a sense for the parts cost?
Last edited by SoCalC7; 05-17-2017 at 09:46 PM.
#3
Team Owner
No one will turn Z51 rotors with the slots. (Won't turn drilled rotors, either)
How worn are they? Can you feel a significant ridge on the outer edge?? What is the thickness vs the minimum thickness?
How worn are they? Can you feel a significant ridge on the outer edge?? What is the thickness vs the minimum thickness?
#4
Most dealer are either crooked, incompetent or both. You can easily see the outside pad without removing the wheel. Unless you have let it go metal to metal the rotors are still good. Grooves actually add surface area. If you get the rotors replaced go with the new one piece.
#5
Team Owner
Most dealer are either crooked, incompetent or both. You can easily see the outside pad without removing the wheel. Unless you have let it go metal to metal the rotors are still good. Grooves actually add surface area. If you get the rotors replaced go with the new one piece.
Before the MB I had NEVER replaced a rotor and drove for lots and lots of miles.
My 2011 Jaguar XFR also had soft rotors. At least they were covered in the warranty.
#6
Rotors aren't Brembo.
#7
Racer
Thread Starter
They gave me a document that says acceptable "lining" should be 7mm or greater, 4mm-6mm is getting close to replacement, and 3mm or less needs to be replaced.
They say mine are 2mm, but I'm assuming that's the pads.
They didn't provide any kind of measurement for the rotors themselves. I don't see that on the document anywhere... but they recommended that the rotors be replaced along with the pads.
They say mine are 2mm, but I'm assuming that's the pads.
They didn't provide any kind of measurement for the rotors themselves. I don't see that on the document anywhere... but they recommended that the rotors be replaced along with the pads.
#8
Team Owner
They gave me a document that says acceptable "lining" should be 7mm or greater, 4mm-6mm is getting close to replacement, and 3mm or less needs to be replaced.
They say mine are 2mm, but I'm assuming that's the pads.
They didn't provide any kind of measurement for the rotors themselves. I don't see that on the document anywhere... but they recommended that the rotors be replaced along with the pads.
They say mine are 2mm, but I'm assuming that's the pads.
They didn't provide any kind of measurement for the rotors themselves. I don't see that on the document anywhere... but they recommended that the rotors be replaced along with the pads.
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
Can anyone tell me what the outer edge of a new rotor would feel like? Would it be Level from edge to edge including the edges themselves?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
Last edited by SoCalC7; 05-17-2017 at 08:58 PM.
#11
Racer
Brake Rotors
Can anyone tell me what the outer edge of a new rotor would feel like? Would it be Level from edge to edge including the edges themselves?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
#12
Racer
Thread Starter
I'm thinking I must have an unusual case or there would be more chatter here. I did a search and can hardly find any mention of rotors being replaced.
I see track guys guys going through pads in a track weekend, but not rotors.
If if I went through my rotors with 1 set of pads, it seems like anyone else who used up a set of pads should also need to replace their rotors.
Trying to find some logic here.
I see track guys guys going through pads in a track weekend, but not rotors.
If if I went through my rotors with 1 set of pads, it seems like anyone else who used up a set of pads should also need to replace their rotors.
Trying to find some logic here.
#13
My service dealer tried to pull that on me when I brought my C7 in for another reason.
He said I needed new rotors.
I told him "Great!" There's a TSB out there saying that if the rotors on 14 C7's are defective to replace them with the upgraded 1 piece design that is now standard on GM's dime.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...pply-1270.html
I told him, go ahead and change the rotors, because it should be covered under this Technical Service Bulletin.
He tries to tell me that my 14Z51 isn't covered, and I show him the TSB and tell him that it is, and go ahead and change the rotors and send GM the bill.
He goes back to his manager and then comes back and voila...all of a sudden the rotors are fine and don't need to be changed, and so they can't honor the TSB.
But if your rotors are defective, then they should be replaced free of charge to you.
He said I needed new rotors.
I told him "Great!" There's a TSB out there saying that if the rotors on 14 C7's are defective to replace them with the upgraded 1 piece design that is now standard on GM's dime.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...pply-1270.html
I told him, go ahead and change the rotors, because it should be covered under this Technical Service Bulletin.
He tries to tell me that my 14Z51 isn't covered, and I show him the TSB and tell him that it is, and go ahead and change the rotors and send GM the bill.
He goes back to his manager and then comes back and voila...all of a sudden the rotors are fine and don't need to be changed, and so they can't honor the TSB.
But if your rotors are defective, then they should be replaced free of charge to you.
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A Service Manual often lists some different rotor specs:
New
Worn but acceptable for new pads
Minimum acceptable for service.
On previous Corvettes, the Manual said that rotors should be turned only if they had excessive pitting, grooving, or runout.
Since I can't yet buy a Manual for our 2017, perhaps someone with a 2014 can look in theirs. The specs may be different between the different types of rotors (base, Z51, GS, etc). You need a micrometer that will open up enough to get past the ridge that's on the edge of worn rotors.
Beware of using rotors that meet the minimum spec now, but will be below the discard thickness by the time your new set of pads is used up.
New
Worn but acceptable for new pads
Minimum acceptable for service.
On previous Corvettes, the Manual said that rotors should be turned only if they had excessive pitting, grooving, or runout.
Since I can't yet buy a Manual for our 2017, perhaps someone with a 2014 can look in theirs. The specs may be different between the different types of rotors (base, Z51, GS, etc). You need a micrometer that will open up enough to get past the ridge that's on the edge of worn rotors.
Beware of using rotors that meet the minimum spec now, but will be below the discard thickness by the time your new set of pads is used up.
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Can anyone tell me what the outer edge of a new rotor would feel like? Would it be Level from edge to edge including the edges themselves?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
i just dragged my finger across the rotor surface toward the outer edge, and there is a pronounced lip/ridge that sticks up on the outer edge. Does that mean the face of the rotor has really worn down that much?
I've never replaced a rotor on any previous car due to thinning... so this is new territory for me.
I guess I'm most astonished that a brake rotor could wear out after only ONE set of pads?!?
Are you riding the brake with your left foot while you drive around?
Those rotors are done for sure.
Last edited by slythetove; 05-18-2017 at 12:52 PM.
#16
I have 48,500 miles on my 2014 Z51. I just had the oil changed and my pads/rotors were fine. I drive a significant amount of highway miles though and I generally don't drive too hard.
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#20
Racer
Thread Starter
This is why im so perplexed. Do I just drive my car harder than most... or is everybody changing out their rotors after 1 set of OEM pads as SOP?