Front license plate laws
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The ZL1addons front plate mount is the way to go imho. It uses the front tow hook mount and thus doesn't touch any part of the car. I got it with the tow hook option which makes it easy to swap out for track days.
You could go without but then you give law enforcement the ability to pull you over at anytime,
You could go without but then you give law enforcement the ability to pull you over at anytime,
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Missouri is a two plate state and while I wish they would drop the front plate requirement, I comply with the law and run the front plate. It's just not worth the potential hassle of being pulled over for not having the plate on the car.
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I would highly recommend that no one try the line in bold on an LEO. Insulting an LEO's intelligence like that would almost guarantee a citation.
A front plate mounting device must be provided with every new car sold in the US, although not necessarily installed at time of sale.
A front plate mounting device must be provided with every new car sold in the US, although not necessarily installed at time of sale.
I think Nevada and a few other "front plate" states specifically have laws that state if there is "no provision for the plate then it is no required" due to the trading of cars between states it is possible you didn't get the front plate bracket (my Michigan car doesn't have it), therefore you can reasonably argue that your car is not provisioned to have a front plate.
But this ONLY works in states which have such a law on the books.
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Its no longer a fix it ticket. $200 fine. DPS is on a rampage about the front plates because they spent big bucks on the plate scanners in the trooper cars. Scans every plate of oncoming cars as they drive down the road.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
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Its no longer a fix it ticket. $200 fine. DPS is on a rampage about the front plates because they spent big bucks on the plate scanners in the trooper cars. Scans every plate of oncoming cars as they drive down the road.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
Not worth the stress to me.
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There is a legal loophole here, in some states, so his comment is not off base.
I think Nevada and a few other "front plate" states specifically have laws that state if there is "no provision for the plate then it is no required" due to the trading of cars between states it is possible you didn't get the front plate bracket (my Michigan car doesn't have it), therefore you can reasonably argue that your car is not provisioned to have a front plate.
But this ONLY works in states which have such a law on the books.
I think Nevada and a few other "front plate" states specifically have laws that state if there is "no provision for the plate then it is no required" due to the trading of cars between states it is possible you didn't get the front plate bracket (my Michigan car doesn't have it), therefore you can reasonably argue that your car is not provisioned to have a front plate.
But this ONLY works in states which have such a law on the books.
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Its no longer a fix it ticket. $200 fine. DPS is on a rampage about the front plates because they spent big bucks on the plate scanners in the trooper cars. Scans every plate of oncoming cars as they drive down the road.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
After being given 2 warnings (which they record by the way) I installed a front plate with a great TopFlight bracket that requires no drilling and does not block air flow to intercooler.
Why are they scanning everyones plates? What does this get them? I agree DPS seems to be the only ones that really care, but I thought they just use it as an excuse to pull you over so they can see in the car.
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Assuming you're paying attention to what's going on the world today, cameras and scanners are everywhere, and the ability to locate bad guys quickly and collect intell is becoming increasingly critical.
Think about scenarios where a suspected terrorist, child-abductor, murderer, etc. is reported driving a vehicle and they have a plate number. The scanners mounted on highways and LEO vehicles can be set to auto-alert a suspect's location when it gets a hit on a specific plate number.
Think about scenarios where a suspected terrorist, child-abductor, murderer, etc. is reported driving a vehicle and they have a plate number. The scanners mounted on highways and LEO vehicles can be set to auto-alert a suspect's location when it gets a hit on a specific plate number.
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I would highly recommend that no one try the line in bold on an LEO. Insulting an LEO's intelligence like that would almost guarantee a citation.
A front plate mounting device must be provided with every new car sold in the US, although not necessarily installed at time of sale.
A front plate mounting device must be provided with every new car sold in the US, although not necessarily installed at time of sale.
Here in California we are required to have a front plate. When I bought my GS, the stealership made me sign a form acknowledging that I was aware of that fact, and they were providing, but not going to install the front plate holder for me. In other words, it's the buyer/owner's responsibility and they were covering their A.
That having been said, I've owned two Corvettes now since January of 2010 and have never installed a front plate. On the days I drive my Vette to work, I literally go right past the police station and have never been stopped.
I respect LEO and am a law abiding citizen... except for this one thing! If I were pulled over for this reason, I'd just accept my punishment. Although, I truly hope the police here in the SF bay area have, as the old saying goes, better things to do with their time than run down scofflaws.
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Heck, just move to Kansas. We've got more wind, more tumbleweeds, more tornadoes . . . . . oh, and no front plate requirement. Wooohoooo.
#32
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My local Caddy dealer did the same thing with front license brackets for my CTS/ATS coupes. Chevy dealer likewise on a Z28 Camaro we bought a few years ago and on all the Corvettes I've owned. Some owners just want to take their chances and they inform you up front that it's your choice.
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Here in Merced, California, they have the parking meter maids issue the no front license plate tickets. The meter maids cruise all the streets where people park even where there are no parking restrictions. They cruise the mall parking lot too and issue them there. The first ticket is $186 but the first one can be reduced to $10 if you get it signed off by a LEO that you have installed the plate. They inform you that they have a database and the second and subsequent tickets are $186 each. I'm sure this pays the meter maid's salary and more... The LEO that signed mine off said it looks ugly and said he wouldn't leave it on if it was his car...
#35
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I was just pulled over for thisc3 weeks ago on my way to Circuits of The Americas for the races. Just north of Austin. DPS asked why I did not have the plate and I was honest and said I just don't like the way it looks on the front. He just issued me a warning and asked if I was going to the races. i figured no sense lying.
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Front plate whining is one of the #1 car forum topics. However, I think events are moving toward the requirement becoming even more strictly enforced, and states with no current requirement adding them.
License plate scanners will become an increasingly more powerful LE tool in an increasing crazy world. License plates are no longer just about traffic law enforcement.
License plate scanners will become an increasingly more powerful LE tool in an increasing crazy world. License plates are no longer just about traffic law enforcement.
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It's ridiculous to have two plate, and one plate states under the same roof (USA). Especially considering the number of states that do or do not require the front tag. It's not like we stay in one state all the time.
How does the LEO, who been writing citations for not having a front tags, feel when he pulls someone over from a single tag state. Is he already biased.
This thread got me curious as to which states require the extra plate, so I found this:
https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/1...icense-plates/
Next time I decide to go on a long cruise, it'll be nice to know which states I need to knock my cruise control down a couple of digits.
How does the LEO, who been writing citations for not having a front tags, feel when he pulls someone over from a single tag state. Is he already biased.
This thread got me curious as to which states require the extra plate, so I found this:
https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/1...icense-plates/
Next time I decide to go on a long cruise, it'll be nice to know which states I need to knock my cruise control down a couple of digits.
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Hawaii requires a front plate as well. I have been rolling the dice and knocking on wood that I don't get pulled over. A lot of people here on island put the plate in the dash. I might install the front plate when I get my custom tag.
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Front plate whining is one of the #1 car forum topics. However, I think events are moving toward the requirement becoming even more strictly enforced, and states with no current requirement adding them.
License plate scanners will become an increasingly more powerful LE tool in an increasing crazy world. License plates are no longer just about traffic law enforcement.
License plate scanners will become an increasingly more powerful LE tool in an increasing crazy world. License plates are no longer just about traffic law enforcement.
Michigan used to have them, we got rid of them in the 80's. I think Mass and Conn are the only states to have them, get rid of them, and now have them again.
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