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Last two corvettes I had for 3 yrs. I waxed them only once when I bought then. I drove them all yr long in the Midwest. When I traided them in they looked just as good as when I first bought them.
My friend has a black c7 and I have to hound him to wash it. I go over to his place about every 6 mos and we wash it together. I have to sort of force him to do it. It looks as good as mine when after drying it. I detail mine every day and his looks just as good for the most part. I just like to do it. Too much time on my hands. These modern clear coats on cars really do the job. His is 3 years old and hasn't ever waxed it.
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A few weeks ago I spent 9 hours on paint correction and polishing. I then applied Kamikaze Miyabi Ceramic coating...The results were amazing. I never thought white could look so good..
If anyone had any nano or ceramic etc etc coating why don't you wax the car then take some masking tape and tape off that area. Then put this "super duper" coating on one side of the. hood. When you take the tape off you should be able to see if there's a difference. Anyone game??
No reason to go to all that trouble. I frequently wash my C7 (CQuartz Finest-coated) and another one of our vehicles (well waxed) side-by-side. The difference in hydrophobic qualities is quite significant. The waxed vehicle beads up nicely, but on the CQuartzed surface the water doesn't even have a chance to bead because it rolls off the surface so quickly, leaving a mostly dry surface behind.
If anyone had any nano or ceramic etc etc coating why don't you wax the car then take some masking tape and tape off that area. Then put this "super duper" coating on one side of the. hood. When you take the tape off you should be able to see if there's a difference. Anyone game??
That's not the point of coatings. Leave the tape on for 6 months and then see which one looks better. Coating offer a "barrier" from the elements and help protect against swirls of cars washed improperly. Like stated above, the hydrophobic properties are worth the effort alone. You can use a "boost" that normally comes with the coating to give the slick feeling everyone likes. Coatings left alone will usually not feel slick at all and sometimes actually feel like your fingers grab or stick on the paint. Wax will look awesome for a few washes but offer no real protection against swirls. Just my .02 cents worth but I've used many many diff products.
It's too cheap. To get a full paint correction, minus removing any orange peel, and then doing sealant should run you between $800 - $1000. I had my suburban done and it cost me in that range and it's guaranteed for 2 years.
At this rate wouldn't doing a protective film be an option?
I'm not going to say anything bad about these super paint coating. They might be great toward a super finish that last for a very long time that "might" resists swirls . "But" here's a couple photos I took in front of my house of my vette that's about 3 months old and was only waxed by the dealer prior to P/U. I don't know how it could shine anymore and per my prior experience I believe it will last many years through many many car washes...... .
Your car looks great.....now.
But it isn't a shine issue it's a paint protection issue. These ceramic coatings protect against swirling which eventually dulls the finish. They provide protection from elements that build up on your paint, dulling it over time. Some people don't care and think a coat of wax is all they need. Its this way with all kinds of newer technology. Some people feel "their way" is good enough no matter what comes along that is clearly better, and these coatings are far better. I highly recommend having it applied or doing it yourself with the consumer version. I had my Vette done by a pro and it cost. me 750. I then did my Audi myself and it is no more difficult than traditional was but will outlast wax by many many miles.
Your car does look great, and there's no doubt anyone can make a vehicle shine w/ any old wax. It's the extra protection you're paying for with the high-end coatings, as well as the ease of maintenance over a long period of time.
Bondo here's my torch red after a fresh ceramic coat and boost. See the depth of the shine. It's the same angle and shot as yours. But the coating will protect way better. I resisted at first but once got Comfortable using them I'll
Never go back.
if your right about resisting those nasty spider swirl marks than that's a big plus. I hate those. I had my new 16 Jeeb SRT done with Cilajet. I'll check it out and see how it looks.
I was taught at n early age how to detail like a pro. I just had my 2017 coated with Ceramic Pro. I would say that shine and the result when washing is slightly better than using Zanio (my best results to date). The difference between the Ceramic Pro and the Zanio is the Zanio will need a complete recoating 1-2 times a year and freshening every other time you wash the car.
The expense with having a professional coat your car is paint correction. There is two levels, buffing ($1000-$1500) and wet sanding to address orange peel (this can get very expensive, 3-4 times the $1000).
What you pay for with professionally applied ceramic coatings is paint protection and ease of care. My car has been washed twice and I have yet to touch it with a towel. Hose foam gun, hose rinse, blow water off the car. Now, I will have to towel the car but only about once every 3-4 washes.
I was taught at n early age how to detail like a pro. I just had my 2017 coated with Ceramic Pro. I would say that shine and the result when washing is slightly better than using Zanio (my best results to date). The difference between the Ceramic Pro and the Zanio is the Zanio will need a complete recoating 1-2 times a year and freshening every other time you wash the car.
The expense with having a professional coat your car is paint correction. There is two levels, buffing ($1000-$1500) and wet sanding to address orange peel (this can get very expensive, 3-4 times the $1000).
What you pay for with professionally applied ceramic coatings is paint protection and ease of care. My car has been washed twice and I have yet to touch it with a towel. Hose foam gun, hose rinse, blow water off the car. Now, I will have to towel the car but only about once every 3-4 washes.
I don't think the clear coat is thick enough to buff all the orange peel out. I would think the clear coat would have be re-sprayed then re buffed. All this done prior to Sealent. I could see we're this process would be very expensive. But the the buffing could be avoided and just sealant applied for a great finish but it won't be glass smooth.
The orange peel is bad in these cars and you're correct. It's not worth the effort or money to correct the orange peel. You can see in this pic by the sun light the peel is bad. I just correct the defects best I can and live with the orange peel.
I'd have to agree. Reminds me when I brought my wifes c-class and the dealer offered a $300, interior protection. After some back and forth, I found out it was a can of scotch guard.
Originally Posted by Foosh
For the prices they are quoting, I believe they are selling snake oil. A really good paint correction and true ceramic coating will cost about double that.
What they are offering is nothing more than you something you can do in your own garage in a couple of hours.
I was taught at n early age how to detail like a pro. I just had my 2017 coated with Ceramic Pro. I would say that shine and the result when washing is slightly better than using Zanio (my best results to date). The difference between the Ceramic Pro and the Zanio is the Zanio will need a complete recoating 1-2 times a year and freshening every other time you wash the car.
The expense with having a professional coat your car is paint correction. There is two levels, buffing ($1000-$1500) and wet sanding to address orange peel (this can get very expensive, 3-4 times the $1000).
What you pay for with professionally applied ceramic coatings is paint protection and ease of care. My car has been washed twice and I have yet to touch it with a towel. Hose foam gun, hose rinse, blow water off the car. Now, I will have to towel the car but only about once every 3-4 washes.
I had my Grand Cherokee SRT done with Cilajet when new. . Cost around $800. It's about 9 months old. Shine is fine but It has allot of swirl marks. I would never pay that much again. I think it was a waste of money. . I might try one on the vette just for curiosity. Are there any ceramic coating that can be applied by us. I see many on Amazon. If so do all the swirl marks have to be removed first.
Check out Adam's ceramic coating. They have vids on their site on how to correct and apply. You will need to decon, clay or nano, pain correction, polish and then apply coating. Use the boost after 24 hours. Don't bother doing it unless you prep properly of you will not be happy.
Check out Adam's ceramic coating. They have vids on their site on how to correct and apply. You will need to decon, clay or nano, pain correction, polish and then apply coating. Use the boost after 24 hours. Don't bother doing it unless you prep properly of you will not be happy.
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