shakinrock

3.8, that is scary fast

rrsperry

This again?

Unless we are on a racetrack, you in your GS/Z06/07, Hellkitty, or Demonic rolling chicane, aren't getting anywhere in any applicable faster time.

The limits of driving on the street, where you can't cross yellow lines of death, where you have to account for unexpected gravel in a turn, dictate that you aren't anywhere close to the car's limits where .03g, or 100 Hp is making any difference.

patentcad

A 460 hp 3300 lb. Stingray that goes 0-100mph in 8.5 seconds or so is not underpowered by any stretch in my view. WTF, I've owned this car for six months and I can count the times I've been able to really open it up on public roads on one hand. The best part about the Corvette is that it's a GT car that can actually handle its way out of a paper bag once there's a bend in the road, unlike most muscle cars. Quite recently there has been an effort to engineer world class handling into muscle cars (i.e., the new Camaro), Chrysler makes no serious effort @ that with their Challenger/Hellcat line.

Boys will be boys, for the most part the whole horsepower discussion on the Internet is just another dick measuring contest.

cv67

read the web enough and 4-500 hp seems mundane. Its still pretty quick on the st
Not all dyno queens can lay it down either...member recently ran Utahs quickest stick car shooout, 1000rwhp camaro could only lay down an 11. 460hp that gets the mileage it does is pretty impressive, some of ya must be young. wasnt that long ago an honest 400hp was tough to get and miserable to drive.

Corgidog1

Can I use my 460 HP-no
Is my car plenty fast enough for me-yes
Would I like more HP-yup

capecodvette

jcsperson

Average Joe driver and high horsepower cars are usually a bad combination.

Harry2

I agree that my 460 HP '14 Z51 is more then adequate for me, however it sure would have been nice for my '18 GS [built on 06.12] to have a small bump to 500 HP to differentiate it from the Stingray that I currently have.

Vetteman Jack

For me, I can get in plenty of trouble with 460 hp.

OntarioOrangeC3

I have 8" & wouldn't mind another 2.

vbdenny

If you plan to track the car on a regular basis, you'll want the extra 200hp. If you do mainly street driving and can't find trouble with 460hp then you really don't need the extra. By adding a high performance cold air kit they claim around a 30hp gain which for around $350 is a lot cheaper than going the Z06 route. Considering that so many people have so much money laying around if you are buying from pocket change, go for the Z06 but be sure to go to Spring Mountain and learn how to drive it properly. NASCAR cars didn't have that much power a decade ago. Crashing a new Corvette because it gets away from you would be terrible, well unless you died in it then it wouldn't bother someone much.

TwoVettes6916

I went through the same decision-making process - is 460 HP enough, or should I go with the Z06 with 650 HP?

In the end, I gave up the extra 200 HP to keep the extra $20,000 in my bank account, and still have an iconic car that has more power on active cylinder management than a lot of cars have with all of their cylinders firing.

And, even though I gave up bragging rights for the 650 HP, I realized it doesn't matter what aspect you talk about, someone else is going to have something bigger or better. So why sweat it?

Keep the Wave!!!!

Hopper12

I enjoy (most of) the comments in these types of threads. We all share the automotive passion, and especially for vettes/sports cars.

And these types of threads underline personal choices and preferences. Mine have changed over time.

Up until about 10 years ago I was drag racing a lot. Had to have the highest hp possible, and purchased many new cars and took the drive trains out and heavily modified them - just like many on this forum. 650hp Firehawk; 500 hp GrandPrix GTX; 600 hp Ford Lightning; 700 hp CTS-V; etc., etc. Broke a lot of stuff too - very understanding wife!

We'd never had a vette, but I fell in love with the styling of the C7. When we purchased our '15 Z51 the Z06 was just about to be introduced. We used the '15 for over 2 years and loved it.

Wife didn't like the color of the '15 and suggested we get a new one. The GS was interesting because we liked the wide body look (again, personal choice), so that's what we bought. Money was not a factor in the decision for us (like many on the forum, we're very fortunate).

So, if I'm a hp junkie that used to drag race a lot and have the $, why wouldn't I get a Z? Contrary to what a few on the forum might think, it's not because 'I don't have a pair'. In addition to dragging newer vehicles, I campaigned SS/D and M/P, and crewed for Stavola Bros. in Winston Cup.

The reason I (personal choice) didn't get a Z is because, even with all the racing in my background, I do not consider the LT1 to be under-powered. The C7, in any configuration, is an extremely capable sports car. If I was drag racing a vette, I'd have purchased a Z. But then, if I really wanted to have another drag car, it wouldn't be a C7.

Perhaps my wife said it best during one of our long road trips in the '15 when I passed 3 cars on a deserted 2 lane road in eastern Washington: "does this thing go as fast from zero to sixty as it does from sixty to one hundred twenty"? Me: "why do you ask"? Her, very calmly: "you hit over one hundred twenty passing those cars. I'd like it better if you kept it under a hundred". I look forward to many more road trips with my sweetie in our GS.

patentcad

The C7 Z51 ran a 2:53.8 Lightning Lap time (Car & Driver, 4 mile track), the Grand Sport did the same course in like 2:47 or something. That's 7 seconds of differentiation on a 4 mile circuit, which sound pretty substantial to me. What's fascinating about the C7 platform, Z51, GS or Z06, is how the cars outperform far pricier and more powerful, (many of them mid-engine) exotic cars.

Foosh

Yikes, you're back for more.

It's hardly a "well-guarded trade secret." In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on this forum who isn't aware that the standard method of measuring HP and TQ is at the flywheel, and that has been the approved engineering standard for many, many decades.

It's the only accurate way to measure engine output only because of variables such as transmission type, powertrain design, etc.

You need a lot more than a calculator. On some vehicles, parasitic drivetrain power loss may be 20% or more, while others may be in the neighborhood of 10%. You need a dyno to calculate WHP, and even those figures vary from dyno to dyno.

ilivas

People passing me in corners doesn't happen in the street so i could care less. No one is passing me on the highway. Lol

Supersonic 427

The '18 Z06 1LZ 7M that I am driving myself nuts over! Just delivered the day before at the dealership. Still trying to do better on the deal. Should know more tomorrow. Do I need this ...NO....do I want it...YES!

defaria

Thanks for reminding me why I long ago put hearingvoices in my ignore list. Now stop quoting him!

RonnieC6Z

Here is what I think. Unless you take your car to the track, the need for gobs of HP is based on your ego and/or your lack of self esteem. Now I do not criticize anyone who buys a car with 600-700-800 HP for a street car only. That is their right and choice. If bragging rights are that important, then so be it. I have had 11 Vettes, (currently a C7 Z51), Viper, Porsches, Ferraris, you name it. All of which are/were strictly street only daily drivers. There is no way I have the ability or desire to take any of my cars to the limit on the street. I owned a C5 & C6 Z06 because I liked the looks of the car. I also owned a C6 Grand sport for the same reason, and was just as happy with that car as i was with the C6 Z06. I had a C6 ZR1 for 2 weeks and thought that for the street, it was almost as crazy stupid as my Viper. I have driven the Turbo S Porsche which is just blazing quick, (quicker than the C7 Z06) and would never want one over a standard 911S. For me, I don't need to drive down the street with 600-800 HP to feel good about myself. But that's just me. To each his/her own.

jabeasley1

Supersonic 427,
Whether or not you get this Vette...It Looks Amazing!