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Old 08-08-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Apparently they did use a Z51 packaged Stingray. Remember they only test new models the year they come out.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...p-2014-feature

See the comments section:


that's funny because on the C6 Corvettes they list them as being Z51's.
Old 08-08-2017, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by theplatinumog
It usually comes back to the track because these are sports cars. Corvette competes in endurance racing and builds cars designed to be competent on track.

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Unfortunately, that's all it is... an idea. Assuming you have never been on a track before, I am 90% sure you would be faster in a 991.1 turbo vs yourself in your z. I am 99% sure it would be true in a 991.2 turbo. Also, the 2017 911 turbo runs a 10.5 quarter mile stock. (conservative Porsche numbers)

I'm starting to wonder in what scenario your z will smoke a 911 turbo. Maybe a rolling race.

I got a little track time in a Porsche, over the years. My first experience with track time was in a 1987 Porsche 944 turbo at Summit Point about 20 years ago. I will be tracking my ZO6. Just a matter of when not if.
Old 08-08-2017, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by theplatinumog
Except gas mileage, cheaper tires/brakes, ride quality, forward facing visibility and others.

Again, for the street I would like a c7 zo6. But to say there is 0 advantage of driving a base model on the street is a little silly.
buy a prius if that's what you are worried about...
Old 08-08-2017, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlcn1962
Doesn't always have to be about the track. Just the fury(noise) of passing a person that just cut you off in a black Mazda speed3 as you were trying to peacefully yield onto route 422, that instant fury and noise of acceleration is second to none. Kinda says" Dude back off", or it's like the guy who is in the mustang GT goes into the right lane at the light knowing the two lanes must merge after the light, but instead of getting in line with the other traffic he decides to get in the right lane, thinking he can beat all the traffic to the merge, but not realizing the first guy in line is in a ZO6, and decides not to try it. It's that everyday capability that the majority of ZO6 owners bought the car for. The GS is a nice car, no question, but the ZO6 is the king of vettes for the time being. Heck its the king of most cars, from a performance point of view. All, those who think we think so because it cost more are misled. Some ZO6's (mine included) cost less then a fully loaded GS. I like the idea that I can smoke a Porsche 911 turbo for half the price.
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cnd Chance
Details please...
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Old 08-08-2017, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
buy a prius if that's what you are worried about...
Whatever man. I use my car to its fullest. My 2016 has 24k miles and is getting ready for track days #29 and 30 this year... You do what with your Z exactly? Maybe you should drive the prius.

I was just pointing out advantages. You can't say the Z is better at any of those things.
Old 08-08-2017, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by theplatinumog
Whatever man. I use my car to its fullest. My 2016 has 24k miles and is getting ready for track days #29 and 30 this year... You do what with your Z exactly? Maybe you should drive the prius.

I was just pointing out advantages. You can't say the Z is better at any of those things.
Troll patrol, I drive it...

you keep mentioning how many track days participate in sounds like pompus d1ck measuring...

My comment implied if those are the advantages you are worried about get a civic or prius.

how many of the 24k miles are on the track?

no need to get offended

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Old 08-08-2017, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by theplatinumog
Whatever man. I use my car to its fullest. My 2016 has 24k miles and is getting ready for track days #29 and 30 this year... You do what with your Z exactly? Maybe you should drive the prius.

I was just pointing out advantages. You can't say the Z is better at any of those things.
to be fair if you are going for a track only or 99% of the time car I won't dispute the gs but there are likely better cars for doing track days
Old 08-08-2017, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Troll patrol, I drive it...

you keep mentioning how many track days participate in sounds like pompus d1ck measuring...

My comment implied if those are the advantages you are worried about get a civic or prius.

how many of the 24k miles are on the track?

no need to get offended
I am glad to hear you "drive yours." Lol

Aprox 5k have been on tracks.

I pointed out advantages and you insulted me by saying I should buy a Prius. You quoted me and said what you did. I probably wouldn't have been so mad if you didn't quote me and say YOU should buy a Prius. Now that I know you meant "If someone cares about those advantages maybe they should drive a Prius" I am not as mad. I don't care about those advantages, but I am aware they exist.

edit because I sucked at math earlier

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Old 08-08-2017, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cnd Chance
Details please...
Ok I yield, your correct. I can't exactly smoke a $200,000 Porsche 911 turbo S. But, I'm right behind it. Nevertheless you are correct. But, I saved $140,000. Ok, I know that wasn't the point so I yield that your are correct. As a former Porsche fanatic, I don't feel so bad that the $200,000 Turbo S. is a wee bit faster, lol!!!
Old 08-08-2017, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
look the point is 90+% of driving time is on the street.

if you really want a track car build one...

if you want a jack of all trades master of none get a GS.
Master of none? The GS leads at braking and handling.
Old 08-08-2017, 11:59 PM
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This thread is like a dick measuring contest within a dick measuring contest.

That's a mind fark right there Corvette weenies.

Carry on boys.
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Old 08-09-2017, 12:07 AM
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What the hell--one of my other cars is a Prius. Love the damn thing.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Master of none? The GS leads at braking and handling.
the gs leads in being slower yes that is well established
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Originally Posted by Bmbl-Bee
What the hell--one of my other cars is a Prius. Love the damn thing.
it has it's place! I'm guessing you dont track it much:-)
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Originally Posted by theplatinumog
It usually comes back to the track because these are sports cars. Corvette competes in endurance racing and builds cars designed to be competent on track.

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Unfortunately, that's all it is... an idea. Assuming you have never been on a track before, I am 90% sure you would be faster in a 991.1 turbo vs yourself in your z. I am 99% sure it would be true in a 991.2 turbo. Also, the 2017 911 turbo runs a 10.5 quarter mile stock. (conservative Porsche numbers)

I'm starting to wonder in what scenario your z will smoke a 911 turbo. Maybe a rolling race.
isn't the z06 pulling down better lap times than the 911?

to each their own, but I hate rear engine cars. It feels like they're always trying to kill me. I was faster in my c6 than a 550hp 997 911 turbo. The 911 is a faster car, but **** if I can get it to go fast.

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Old 08-09-2017, 08:22 AM
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Agree with this guy 100%....that's why I got a GS and not a Z06... Balance and reliability were key factors.


Originally Posted by rb185afm
I've done two track days in my GS so far. I destroyed both C7 Z06's in the open advanced passing group. I was running 5 seconds a lap faster than the fasted Z06. Doesn't mean S though. I would have been even faster in a Z06. But then I was passing z06's with The Z07 package in my stock Gen 5 1LE on the track. What the vast majority of people don't get is it takes lots of skill to turn of the nannies in a Z06 and still have fun and leave with a car at the end of the day. I like to play at 10/10ths, not overheat, not end my sessions early, and have a fun car with no nannies. Hello GS.
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Originally Posted by village idiot
I went from a C6 to a Miata on the track and I really want a kart.

I'm not sure why any of this is so hard to believe, despite numerous people saying the same thing. If I didn't drive on the track (and didn't drive 20k miles a year) I'd definitely prefer a Z06.
shifter kart is most fun you can have on 4 wheels! makes everything else seem slow. costs a whole lot less and shifter kart racing is racing in its purest form.
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Old 08-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by village idiot

to each their own, but I hate rear engine cars. It feels like they're always trying to kill me.
I hear ya.
Funny how an ME never gives me that sensation....in fact, quite the opposite.


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