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Old 08-10-2017, 09:58 AM
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Hey Forum members.....Curious how many use the Track Mode on the streets? I have been using Sport Mode pretty exclusively and have not used the Track Mode yet. I've heard the stories of bent wheels and tire problems from using Track Mode on streets.
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I drive mostly in NY/NJ/LI so I'm mostly Tour mode unless I'm on a highway, and then sport mode. Rarely if ever do I put it in track mode.
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A lot of people don't realize that if you are Track PTM equipped (Z51 and above w/ MSRC), Track PTM/Wet puts the MSRC in Tour mode, and Track PTM/Dry puts it in sport mode.

I regularly use both Track PTM/Wet and Track/PTM Dry on the street. They are great settings.

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A lot of people don't realize that if you are Track PTM equipped (Z51 and above w/ MSRC), Track PTM/Wet puts the MSRC in Tour mode, and Track PTM/Dry puts it in sport mode.

I regularly use both Track PTM/Wet and Track/PTM Dry on the street. They are great settings.
So basically with the setup of PTM/DRY...I'm in Sport Mode with a Track Display?
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Yes

One thing to note is that in PTM, you will have warning lights indicating TC and DSC are off, but they are not in PTM Wet or Dry and fully operational. The lights are just there to warn you that if you rotate the **** to Sport 2 or Race, you will have little or no nanny intervention.

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I drive around on the street in track mode all the time.
It is very stiff, but responsive.

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During the Ron Fellows course, I recall the instructor telling us during the vehicle walk-around segment, not to use track mode on the streets. Said that it made the suspension too taught and you could damage a wheel if you hit a pothole.

Sport mode to me is fine for good streets...but typical around town driving I just leave it in Tour.
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Old 08-10-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Carqwik
During the Ron Fellows course, I recall the instructor telling us during the vehicle walk-around segment, not to use track mode on the streets. Said that it made the suspension too taught and you could damage a wheel if you hit a pothole.

Sport mode to me is fine for good streets...but typical around town driving I just leave it in Tour.
Best thing I learn was that I should be in Touring mode in pot-holed ridden streets of Houston, but can program display for Sport mode

Also learned that when the street's wet, I better put it in Wet/Weather mode...
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I stay in sport mode about 95% of the time. Sometimes I'll put it in E when on a long road trip on the highway.
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When Foosh showed me the light it changed my life. My last 12k street miles were PTM wet/dry.

I may be making this up but...when I was in tour or sport the throttle seemed to change. How annoying is that when you drive stick? Hard to remember what mode you are in and take off smoothly. Now I am always in PTM WET/DRY and it is consistent. Good throttle tip in and it doesn't change, I am always in PTM.
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Originally Posted by Carqwik
During the Ron Fellows course, I recall the instructor telling us during the vehicle walk-around segment, not to use track mode on the streets. Said that it made the suspension too taught and you could damage a wheel if you hit a pothole.

Sport mode to me is fine for good streets...but typical around town driving I just leave it in Tour.
Read Foosh's post again.
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Originally Posted by Thunder22
I drive mostly in NY/NJ/LI so I'm mostly Tour mode unless I'm on a highway, and then sport mode. Rarely if ever do I put it in track mode.
Same here except different state....only used track mode a couple of times....NEVER have used ECO mode
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Originally Posted by Carqwik
During the Ron Fellows course, I recall the instructor telling us during the vehicle walk-around segment, not to use track mode on the streets. Said that it made the suspension too taught and you could damage a wheel if you hit a pothole.

Sport mode to me is fine for good streets...but typical around town driving I just leave it in Tour.
The instructor(s) at Ron Fellows, who keep repeating that are either not familiar w/ Track PTM, which I doubt, or they are just trying to keep it simple, which is most likely. You can be in Track PTM mode, and still have the MSRC suspension in the softest setting, which is Tour mode (Track PTM/Wet). I don't understand why they are "dumbing down" this discussion for students.

What the instructor said ONLY applies to regular Track mode before pressing the center console button twice to go into the Track PTM menu.

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Old 08-10-2017, 11:56 AM
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I use track on the streets 20-25% of the time. The rest is in sport. No issues with either.

Either way, not sure how anyone can stand driving in tour. The wheel is is ridiculously unresponsive..
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^^^^ You know you can program steering independently, right?
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Originally Posted by PryOpenUr3rdEye
I use track on the streets 20-25% of the time. The rest is in sport. No issues with either.

Either way, not sure how anyone can stand driving in tour. The wheel is is ridiculously unresponsive..
Sounds like you've spent all your C7 hours on smooth Florida roads. If you visited many other parts of the country like the NE or Mid-Atlantic, you'd be in Tour often, or else possibly in a back brace.
Many of our roads are like war zones. Moreover, the steering in Tour is not unresponsive, in fact it's the opposite . . . a bit too responsive for spirited driving.

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Understandable. Yes, the FL roads tend to be decent.

Tour just seems to be wobbly to me. Feels like a 76 Blazer my father used to have.

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Ever since Foosh opened my eyes to the "Truth", I have run in Track PTM/Wet mode almost exclusively. Handles/rides great and I commute 100 miles/day on some of the suckiest and some of the most demanding roads in SoCal like the Ortega Highway and the 5! I've gotten over 30k miles on my MPSS tires with meat still left on them and no bent rims despite the numerous potholes that have been unavoidable.
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Originally Posted by PryOpenUr3rdEye
I use track on the streets 20-25% of the time. The rest is in sport. No issues with either.

Either way, not sure how anyone can stand driving in tour. The wheel is is ridiculously unresponsive..
because I set the steering to track.

Originally Posted by PryOpenUr3rdEye
Understandable. Yes, the FL roads tend to be decent.

Tour just seems to be wobbly to me. Feels like a 76 Blazer my father used to have.
unlink steering from driving mode and set it to track.

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Originally Posted by PryOpenUr3rdEye
The wheel is is ridiculously unresponsive..
Not sure I understand you. The gearing for the rack&pinion is the same; it's just the amount of boost that changes (most for Tour, less for Sport, even less for Track).

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