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Old 08-24-2017, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default C7s are being targeted for their wheels.

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Make sure to get wheel locks!

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Buy lock it it lets you sleep better. FWIW if you know what your doing you can take the wheels off almost as fast as if they were not locked on.

Best bet have good insurance and do your best to park in good places.
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From the linked story -- "The suspect’s car was found in a bank parking lot next to the dealership. When police arrived on the scene, they found four lug wrenches, three lug nuts and three lug keys."

The man was "charged with possession of burglarious tools and larceny of motor vehicle parts" for having a lug wrench, lug nuts and some lug keys?

Suspicious behavior? Certainly.
Was an actual *crime* committed? No.

I *HATE* theives, but unless they can prove he stole those lug nuts (perhaps there are pertinent facts omitted from the story), the above sounds pretty flimsy and dangerously close to 'thought crime police'. I can see him in court now -- "Your Honor, the defendent CLEARLY was thinking about stealing those wheels from the cars in the lot next door."
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Buy lock it it lets you sleep better. FWIW if you know what your doing you can take the wheels off almost as fast as if they were not locked on.

Best bet have good insurance and do your best to park in good places.

Any local auto parts store will sell special lug wrench adapters for $20 that will do the job on most locking lugs. That's why I don't waste my time/money on so-called 'locking' lug nuts -- they're more trouble for me than for the thief!

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Don't all of the C7's - even the 1LTs - have alarms with tilt sensors that will activate if the car is jacked up to remove the wheels? This should help a bit. I agree that wheel locks don't do that much, but they do *something*, so I will get them
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Old 08-24-2017, 04:44 PM   #6
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I think the tilt alarm is 2LT and 3LT. I know mine works, I forgot to hit the override button and lifted it on the hoist in garage at work. Alarm went off 2" or 3" off the ground.
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I think the tilt alarm is 2LT and 3LT. I know mine works, I forgot to hit the override button and lifted it on the hoist in garage at work. Alarm went off 2" or 3" off the ground.
Yep, mine works, too. With 2LT or 3LT I can't see how they could jack the car enough to remove a wheel, so unless you have a 1LT I think locks are useless. They are defeatable, for sure, but would slow down the process and/or increase the noise level, and that might make them move to another car.
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Old news and it's not just Corvettes. When I took delivery of mine in December the sales guy said they just got hit the night before by some guys taking Camaro wheels. Luckily for me, I have the plebian base wheels.
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Old news and it's not just Corvettes. When I took delivery of mine in December the sales guy said they just got hit the night before by some guys taking Camaro wheels. Luckily for me, I have the plebian base wheels.
They probably look better than the black ones shown.
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From the linked story -- "The suspectís car was found in a bank parking lot next to the dealership. When police arrived on the scene, they found four lug wrenches, three lug nuts and three lug keys."

The man was "charged with possession of burglarious tools and larceny of motor vehicle parts" for having a lug wrench, lug nuts and some lug keys?

Suspicious behavior? Certainly.
Was an actual *crime* committed? No.

I *HATE* theives, but unless they can prove he stole those lug nuts (perhaps there are pertinent facts omitted from the story), the above sounds pretty flimsy and dangerously close to 'thought crime police'. I can see him in court now -- "Your Honor, the defendent CLEARLY was thinking about stealing those wheels from the cars in the lot next door."
It's not just thoughts, it's actions- getting the tools together and taking them to that location at that time.

Unless the guy cops a plea, the prosecutor will have to convince a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did indeed steal the parts and was using or planning to use the tools in a crime. Juries usually ain't as dumb as you might think in sniffing out bullshit from defendants or prosecutors.
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It's not just thoughts, it's actions- getting the tools together and taking them to that location at that time.

Unless the guy cops a plea, the prosecutor will have to convince a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did indeed steal the parts and was using or planning to use the tools in a crime. Juries usually ain't as dumb as you might think in sniffing out bullshit from defendants or prosecutors.
Good points, Jim. However, I don't think I'd want to take up that case as prosecutor, especially since the defendant was apparently acting alone (no 'conspiracy' to commit to aid in the establishment of intent). The only question is whether sitting in his car next door, with the normal, everyday tools of a lug wrench and keys is considered a substantial step in the commitment of that crime. As you said, a jury would have to sort that, but it seems pretty shaky, at least with the sparse facts presented in the story.

Thanks for the good discussion!

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Make sure to get wheel locks!
Wast of time. They will get them if they want them.

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Hell, I'll just GIVE them the OEM wheels!
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I had a set of Gorilla Locking lugs on my Challenger SRT. They don't come in black, because I would have them on my car if they did. They have an outer collar that spins so you can't beat a socket on it or use one of the lock removal tools. You would have to chisel the collar off to then try to remove the lock. When I worked at a dealership years ago, when a customer's car or a car bought at auction was missing the key for the locking lug, we would beat a one size smaller 12 point socket on the lug and use either an impact or breaker bar and take them off. It takes seconds.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/gorilla-guard-locks

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Hell, I'll just GIVE them the OEM wheels!
Sadly, yours won't fit my Z or I drive up to KC and buy them from you.
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Buy lock it it lets you sleep better. FWIW if you know what your doing you can take the wheels off almost as fast as if they were not locked on.

Best bet have good insurance and do your best to park in good places.
Wheel locks are a waste. Thieves get them off just as fast as they get regular lugs off. I have seen it done at a local garage where the vehicle owner forgot the lock key. Off in seconds.
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Wheel locks are a waste. Thieves get them off just as fast as they get regular lugs off. I have seen it done at a local garage where the vehicle owner forgot the lock key. Off in seconds.
It discourages the amateurs, I think, but that's about it.

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Jeez, wheel locks? Where the hell do you guys park your car?
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I had a set of Gorilla Locking lugs on my Challenger SRT. They don't come in black, because I would have them on my car if they did. They have an outer collar that spins so you can't beat a socket on it or use one of the lock removal tools. You would have to chisel the collar off to then try to remove the lock. When I worked at a dealership years ago, when a customer's car or a car bought at auction was missing the key for the locking lug, we would beat a one size smaller 12 point socket on the lug and use either an impact or breaker bar and take them off. It takes seconds.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/gorilla-guard-locks
I saw a post indicating that there is also an easy way to defeat those Gorillas, but don't recall how. Can anyone put it up for our evaluation?
If they really work, I'm interested.

I've always used the GM/McGard locks on our Corvettes but understand they will deter only the lazy. Or the guy who notices the Corvette next to yours that doesn't have wheel locks.
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if you know what your doing you can take the wheels off almost as fast as if they were not locked on.
Not necessary true especially if you use install these
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/x2-wheel-locks
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