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Old 08-27-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by woodranch
Does the average or can the average Corvette driver really feel the difference between 3.6 and 2.95 to 60 miles per hour? If so, then ZO6 is your answer. If that is not of great importance, the GS is your answer. Where in Los Angeles can you open it up to feel that power unless it is 4 am or on the the Las Vegas.
Oh yes....you can really feel the difference. 185 Lbs. ft. of torque more at 1000 less rpm. How could you not feel the difference? You don't have to get on the pedal to feel the difference.
Old 08-27-2017, 02:33 PM
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I feel the difference in power big time. Should have never have driven my friends Z06. Now I'm hooked and will be buying one this fall or winter. Now I only have a Stingray, but have test driven a Grand Sport, and it is a terrific car, but I couldn't tell any difference in power between mine and the GS.
Old 08-27-2017, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by joemessman
I feel the difference in power big time. Should have never have driven my friends Z06. Now I'm hooked and will be buying one this fall or winter. Now I only have a Stingray, but have test driven a Grand Sport, and it is a terrific car, but I couldn't tell any difference in power between mine and the GS.
Thats because there is no power difference. It's marketed to look like a Z but doesn't have the built motor. To mod a GS to perform like the Z one would need to void the warranty.
Old 08-27-2017, 06:03 PM
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I'm usually a z06 guy but I dont normally track my vehicles. I cant afford to crash them, I just dont have the cash some guys do here.

I'm going to try the "slow" car fast rule on my next one and go grand sport over z, just because I like the body style and the bigger wheels.
Old 08-27-2017, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spinkick
I'm usually a z06 guy but I dont normally track my vehicles. I cant afford to crash them, I just dont have the cash some guys do here.

I'm going to try the "slow" car fast rule on my next one and go grand sport over z, just because I like the body style and the bigger wheels.
We all need to admit we are blessed getting to drive any of the models. They are all fantastic in there own way. I went with a manual Z06 and I have to hear how much faster the auto is:-). Glad I don't care.
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Old 08-27-2017, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
no but the concept of having a factory build with forged internals, proper transmission for the engine for the car is worth every bit of 5k.

the gs is a great car but to claim it can be a z06 with bolt ons is inaccurate.
your right it can easily beat a z06 with bolt ons!!!
Old 08-27-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brettmess24
your right it can easily beat a z06 with bolt ons!!!
Unless you're bolting on forced induction or bolting on a serious cam and headwork, a grand sport isn't beating a Z06.

(I'm a GS owner).
Old 08-27-2017, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by brettmess24
your right it can easily beat a z06 with bolt ons!!!
yup but it will never be one.

planning on changing internals and the trans?
-good luck

gs also lacks the carbon fiber torque tube.

one could mod a mustang and roast a modded grandsport but the gs is still a better factory build than a mustang...

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Old 08-27-2017, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
yup but it will never be one.

planning on changing internals and the trans?
-good luck

gs also lacks the carbon fiber torque tube.

one could mod a mustang and roast a modded grandsport but the gs is still a better factory build than a mustang...
I think he's wrong that a bolt on GS can beat a Z06, unless it's more than 1 lap (I kid). At the same time, let's not kid ourselves that "being a z06" is some sort of holy standard to obtain. It has virtually zero chance of ever being a collector item. Even the "special edition" C7s have virtually no chance of ever being worth more than their sticker after inflation, ever.

It's not like someone is scoffing at the price of a 69 Yanko and proposing taking 1982 Corvette, changing some stuff and dropping in a crate engine to make it mostly match a Yanko and saying you can have a Yanko for way less. Yeah, there you can say "yup but it will never be one."


I love the C7, but let's all calm down
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
I think he's wrong that a bolt on GS can beat a Z06, unless it's more than 1 lap (I kid). At the same time, let's not kid ourselves that "being a z06" is some sort of holy standard to obtain. It has virtually zero chance of ever being a collector item. Even the "special edition" C7s have virtually no chance of ever being worth more than their sticker after inflation, ever.

It's not like someone is scoffing at the price of a 69 Yanko and proposing taking 1982 Corvette, changing some stuff and dropping in a crate engine to make it mostly match a Yanko and saying you can have a Yanko for way less. Yeah, there you can say "yup but it will never be one."


I love the C7, but let's all calm down
History would disagree with you...
Old 08-27-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
History would disagree with you...
What C4, C5 or C6 is worth more than it's sticker AFTER inflation? Heck, I can't even come up with one that is worth more than sticker, period. And there is no reason to think they're ever appreciate.
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Originally Posted by village idiot
Unless you're bolting on forced induction or bolting on a serious cam and headwork, a grand sport isn't beating a Z06.

(I'm a GS owner).
Or drop in a Katech 427/LT1.

Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
yup but it will never be one.

planning on changing internals and the trans?
-good luck

gs also lacks the carbon fiber torque tube.

one could mod a mustang and roast a modded grandsport but the gs is still a better factory build than a mustang...
See above remarks. The GS Transaxle will do just fine!

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Old 08-27-2017, 07:54 PM
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guys, guys, guys! Let's not argue which car is better, they, just like us are all winners in C7 Gen.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
guys, guys, guys! Let's not argue which car is better, they, just like us are all winners in C7 Gen.
Yes Lol..The debate goes on...The Non Z51 Stingray vs. the Stingray Z51....the Z51 vs. the GS and the GS vs.the Z06. Soon to be Z06 vs.ZR1. Many seem that they have to justify what they bought.
They all have their plus and minuses, but are all great Corvettes! All depends on your wants and how much you want to spend!

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Old 08-27-2017, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
What C4, C5 or C6 is worth more than it's sticker AFTER inflation? Heck, I can't even come up with one that is worth more than sticker, period. And there is no reason to think they're ever appreciate.
True, but 50 years from now when most of us are long gone.....they might be!
Old 08-27-2017, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
Bzzzt. Next contestant...
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
What C4, C5 or C6 is worth more than it's sticker AFTER inflation? Heck, I can't even come up with one that is worth more than sticker, period. And there is no reason to think they're ever appreciate.
Funny how you skipped the c1 c2 and c3.

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Old 08-27-2017, 08:37 PM
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I bought a Z06 knowing it will be my last that I have for many years. I purchased knowing that their will be a NEW ZR1 and a C8 that will be a improvement over my Z06. It is the nature of the beast!
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Originally Posted by village idiot
What C4, C5 or C6 is worth more than it's sticker AFTER inflation? Heck, I can't even come up with one that is worth more than sticker, period. And there is no reason to think they're ever appreciate.
I saw something the other day I thought was interesting, the C4 Grand Sport has a higher resale than the C4 ZR1.

IIRC the highest priced Corvettes are the original Grand Sports, L88's and the ZL1.
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Originally Posted by 2016_Z06
Funny how you skipped the c1 c2 and c3.
Which are all very different, mostly pre-emissions cars.
For the past at least 15, if not 20 years, those cars have appreciated from sticker (factoring in inflation). An original 69 vette was worth a lot when I first started driving back nearly 20 years ago (wow).

If it was just an age thing, the 1989 Corvette should be worth a lot by now. Certainly the C4 should start to appreciate, but it hasn't. Basically, what is considered a "classic" or a "collectible" hasn't changed much in the past 15-20 years. A few cars got added to the list, like the Supra, but that's about it.


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