Mlcn62

Really is the C7 vette the best bang for the buck under $100,000? What about Porsche 911's, Jaguar F-Type, Mercedes AMG GT, Lexus LC-500, BMW 640i, Mercedes SL-450? Are we just "fanboys" of vettes? We spend more time on this forum tearing each model up with pointless threads about which is best, Stingray, Grand Sport, ZO6's, or which is better A8 or M7? Are we kidding ourselves that we have the best bang for the buck? I happen to love my 2017
zo6, A8, Zl1, but could I have done better to get one of the cars listed above? After 3 months on this forum with all the negative posts downgrading everyone's choices. I seriously wonder if I bought the best bang for under $100,000. Personally I think all the vettes are great, stingray, Grand Sport and ZO6, but this forum makes me wonder if I would have done better with one of its competitors! Weigh in please!

mschuyler

It's a corvette forum. We discuss corvettes here. Big surprise. If you like, want, or own another car, there are forums for those cars, too. Go there. Yes, there is negativity here. Lots of people come here for the single purpose of bitching about corvettes, GM in general, or whatever issue they happen to have. Some people seem to have agendas. It's often tedious, but we also often get good and interesting information. If you have a question about corvettes, you'll probably get an answer within a few minutes. It's pretty much the same on any internet forum on any subject, and goes with the territory. As Lee Iacocca, CEO of Chrysler, 1978-1992, used to say, "If you can find a better car, buy it." so I don't really understand your phrase, "Are we kidding ourselves?" About what? We're here because we like corvettes. If you think there are better values out there, I don't think many people really care. It's just personal opinion anyway. This is not a general forum on sports cars where all brands are discussed.

Steve_R

What people post on an anonymous Internet forum makes you question whether you should have bought a different car? Are you serious???

Personally I bought my C7 for me. I couldn't care any less what anyone else thinks of it.

kenw

The cars performance speaks for itself compared to the other cars. Just comparing dollar for performance makes the Vette the winner against the cars you pointed out. In my opinion.

Mordeth

I don't come to the Corvette forum to either solicit opinions on my choices or compare mine to other peoples choices. I don't need random, arbitrary validation of my decisions. I come here to interact with individuals who share similar interests, share ideas, share stories, help others if I can and be helped when I need it. This gives me enjoyment.

If reading random negative internet posts is causing you to doubt or second guess your purchase decision, then either your priorities are out of whack or you didn't want the car to begin with and are now validating your disappointment by focusing on negativity.

I am not going to debate "value" with random internet trolls who come here to troll. I determine that myself, using my own money, my own experience and the amount of happiness and enjoyment that is created from the ownership experience...mostly by DRIVING THE CAR. On the street, on the track, to the store, to work and everywhere else I possibly can. If I stopped generating sufficient entertainment for my money, then I would sell the car and find another. What I won't do though is allow people I don't know to influence this decision, especially random people that I do not know on an internet forum. I simply do not care whether someone else agrees or disagrees with my purchase or swears there is a better option. And when I see a poster clearly and repeatedly trolling our car and this forum, they are placed on ignore. Problem solved and the forum is so much nicer.

guido7834

Who buys imports?

themonk

I know that the C7 is not the be all and end all of sports cars. I bought mine because at the time (2013) was the best new sports car for the money, nothing else could touch it for 77k CAN. Now, 4 model years later there still isn't a new car that can touch it (overall performance wise) for the same, if not lower, cost of a base C7 Stingray, add in Z51 on a 1LT and that list of ZERO gets even smaller.

My car has it's faults and now being 4 years old there are a handful of cars that can match some things, beat it in others, but overall be better at everything, not a chance.

desmophile

Unless you make you living racing cars, the question is what makes you happy.
I have invested the time to go to the Ron Fellows Corvette Owners School this past week. If that is available to you to you then do it. If you don't wan't to make the effort to do that, then you are more interested in appearance than performance. Nothing wrong with that, just decide what you want.
About half the time I stop for gas I have someone come up and talk with me about the Z. Many want to take pictures. The last was a young Russian girl that I thought about asking her if she wanted to go for a ride, but I am 65, she was maybe 17, her parents were nearby as was my SO. If you want attention, get the C7.
I have been to the track 4 times this year, after having driven sports cars, Lotus, in the early 70's. None of the cars you have mentioned have passed me. A factory Lotus racer on slicks has come close, but the Z takes his lunch money on the straights
I am still learning on the track, and I think instruction is the best performance upgrade you can buy, but if you learn how to drive your C7, it will be hard for a less than 500K car to pass you

Always Red Dave

YES I WISH I GOT SOMETHIG ELSE NOT!!!

Steve Garrett

OP, interesting topic of conversation. It does seem like Corvette owners are very competitive here on this Forum.

You mentioned that you love your ZO6-just go with that and have done with it. Don't judge your car based upon what you read on ANY forum. I can tell you that car forums are a lot alike. You'll see the same kind of "fanboy" opinions on many other forums too-all defending their brands (for the most part).

I'm not really sure why there is so much competitiveness amongst cars and owners. Personally, I could care less if my car is faster than any others on the street. That's NOT why I bought my Stingray. I could have purchased any car I wanted. I considered the F-Type, Porsche Cayman S and a Maserati Gran Turismo too. I chose Corvette because it's got great looks, excellent power-heck, even my wife said to get the Corvette! And she was originally pushing for the Cayman! To me, it was the best of the best. I hope you feel as good about your ZO6 as I do about my Stingray.

mschuyler

You bring up a good point. You can weigh the corvette against other cars pound for pound, HP vs HP, 0-60, or any other metric you care to invent, and in the end what you have is Corvette against some other sports or muscle car. Corvette vs. something. People say, 'It's just a car" and I say, "No, it's a legend." It's also a survivor. Some executives ruined their careers at GM because they refused to let it die. It's an American sports car, THE American sports car because once Ford turned the better selling T-Bird into a four-seater, they blew it! (And for the record, I owned an 80's style T-Bird and enjoyed it. It was a great sedan.) From then on it was a one horse race and 65 years later, Corvette is still winning it.

We all know this. Kids pointing from the street corner and waving. Truckers honking. People yelling, "Beautiful car!" People coming up to you at the gas station saying, "What's it like to drive that thing?" Or as one guy at a rest stop said, "I could get into it, but I couldn't get out of it." I said, "You know it, brother, it's a bitch to climb out of!" It just keeps happening over and over again. And if you travel in a pack, like I did with 15 other corvettes to Yellowstone and back, other cars pull off the road to let you pass. Corvette is a phenomena. Driving one is participating in an American ritual. You may find some Lexus 123 Rxi is somehow "better," but who cares because no one knows what that is. But every kid in America knows what a Corvette is. And that is very cool.

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thill444

You screwed up for sure..
You could have had a Yugo Turbo

WishIhadone

It's kind of like when people say "Oh 911s are boring sports cars" Those people have most likely never even driven one because the Porsche IS an all around better car than the Corvette. Yeah the Corvette can be faster no one can deny that but the full package (build quality, interior, reliance) no one can deny the Porsche is way beyond the Vette. Corvette and American cars, in general, have quite a way to go but Porsche they have nothing left to prove. And no I'm not biased I'm a fan of both Vettes and Porsches. Just stating my opinion. But I will add this if a say 911 GTS was the same price as a Corvette Grand Sport I'm sure many vette owners would walk to the Chevy dealer and at the last minute make a B-line to the Porsche dealership. But the Corvette is great for the money. A 911 even a base one is 100k so I guess it's just what you prefer. I'd be happy with either.

C82LT

I never owned a Corvette before and was trying to stay away from it, thinking I should get a Porsche or something. After driving a lot of cars, I kept coming back the the C7. The closest car I would compare it to is the F-Type.

Mlcn62

I've had 3 new Porsches since 2009(read my historical post)! Wasn't the best experience for me. My 2010 911 had many vists to service. My 2013 Boxster S, was ok! But had a few issues. Wife's 2011 Boxster was the best of the lot, but slow as molasses. My ZO6 is just crazy stupid fast and a beast. Love it, but as I stated, this forum makes you wonder if in 6 months it will either over heat, or the A8 trans will self destruct. 6000 miles in 3 months and no issues so far. Scared to drive it in rain, can get away from you.

Boba Fett

I have owned more vettes than any other sports car. 5 ZO6's and 1 ZR1 to be exact. Ive always felt the Z06 is the best bang for buck in its category. This does not mean in any way that I do not recognize the Z's weak points as well as where it may fall short to any given competitor in my opinion. I also am more passionate about driving sports cars than the name that may appear on one.
Excellent post. I have read your some of your posts and can tell you enjoy helping and informing others which makes this a great place.
I mostly agree with the bolded part of your post and speak it in my own words when it comes to the sports cars I own. I don't subscribe to "fanboyism" and own and admire quite a few other cars as well which seem to be hard for certain members around here who constantly have to behave like little girls once competition is brought up. Id certainly hate to be at the track, or out for a Sunday rip and all the cars were the same.

thill444

For the record I had every intention of buying a Cayman S. Had been budgeting and planning for it. Have never owned an American sportscar in my life. Test drove the Cayman S, a Lotus Elise, and the Z51 C7 and I fell in love with the C7. The Cayman S is a well balanced car but it honestly didn't wow me. The C7 was much more exotic looking, much quicker, had a better exhaust note, and was so much more car for the money.

RedC7AZ

Stingray is by far the best car on the planet.

Boba Fett

I honestly don't feel as though the members (most) here are all that competitive (at least in this section). I actually wish that was the case, but its not. Competitiveness embraces competition. I know we're on the corvette forum and Ill catch some slack for this but it just seems to me that to many corvette owners have the "whatever I own" is the best and have extreme difficulty in being objective when it comes to competition. I experience this out in the world as well. That's not being competitive. I also do understand that this applies to all brands to an extent but seems to be stronger here than anywhere else.

You say that you're not sure why there is so much competitiveness amongst car owners but think about it...for those that are truly competitive...its mostly men that care to own and drive high performance machines as well as participating here on the forum. That's nothing more than natural, being that we're the testosterone driven animals that we are.

The corvette as awesome as I think it is, does have competition and can be touched. Whether or not some want to accept that or not doesn't change it.

In any event, I totally agree, OP in no way should let any1 here take away any enjoyment from owning an American Iconic car

OnPoint

I agree with Boba. OP, your post to me cries for a need for validation. Unfortunately, such a streak runs strong in the C7 section. You can post in the Z section that your Z is the bestest ever. Or that your GS is the shizzle in this section. And you can get all the blind, anonymous, internet validation you could want.

But what's the point? It comes down to this. Do you enjoy your sports car? If so, then carry on, with eyes open to the fact there is plenty of other cool machinery on the planet. If you don't enjoy it, then get something different that you do.

This constant need for validation in this place is asinine.