Provost towing a Z06
09-02-2017, 01:54 AM
#41
Burning Brakes
That's an aging 45' Prevost. Looks to be a 1990s model without slides.
I would estimate it's current retail resale value in today's terms of about $200K, +/-. You can snow a lot of people into thinking your rig is worth a lot more than you paid for it. I would guesstimate one that vintage sold new for about $1Mil, tops after discount off list.
It's an RVer, alright - might be wearing denim shorts too. The FMCA, (Family Motor Coach Assn.) plaque signage on the right rear of the coach reflects a retiree - generally.
New, today? They're a tad over $2Mil, generally before a hefty $200K to $300K, discount off list. You certainly don't need to be a multimillionaire to get into a used one that can be financed for 20 years .
I would estimate it's current retail resale value in today's terms of about $200K, +/-. You can snow a lot of people into thinking your rig is worth a lot more than you paid for it. I would guesstimate one that vintage sold new for about $1Mil, tops after discount off list.
It's an RVer, alright - might be wearing denim shorts too. The FMCA, (Family Motor Coach Assn.) plaque signage on the right rear of the coach reflects a retiree - generally.
New, today? They're a tad over $2Mil, generally before a hefty $200K to $300K, discount off list. You certainly don't need to be a multimillionaire to get into a used one that can be financed for 20 years .
09-02-2017, 01:59 AM
#42
Most new Prevost luxury coach conversions now do have slides, but they are very small in comparison to other luxury coaches. We looked at Prevosts and found them very cramped in comparison to many others.
Last edited by Foosh; 09-02-2017 at 02:04 AM.
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09-02-2017, 02:12 AM
#44
You'd be surprised. While there certainly a lot of retirees out there, the luxury RV lifestyle is attracting a younger and younger demographic. Business is booming, and manufacturers are having a hard time keeping up with demand. There are a lot of Class-A only luxury resorts now, where there are certainly no denim shorts anywhere to be seen, and it's more like what you'd see at an exclusive country club.
That's one of the things we love about it. You see all types from neuro-surgeons, CEOs, to every occupation under the sun. It's a great way to get to meet a lot of really interesting, nice folks, then you move on . . .
That's one of the things we love about it. You see all types from neuro-surgeons, CEOs, to every occupation under the sun. It's a great way to get to meet a lot of really interesting, nice folks, then you move on . . .
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09-02-2017, 02:43 AM
#45
The Prevost' I've seen built in the last 10 years or so ALL have 3 or 4 slides.
I've been a motor home aficionado/owner (all diesels) off and on for 30 years now. My advise to anyone is that you have to enjoy or love the RVing mode of travel - versus motels. Many of us prefer RVing to motels.
I've been a motor home aficionado/owner (all diesels) off and on for 30 years now. My advise to anyone is that you have to enjoy or love the RVing mode of travel - versus motels. Many of us prefer RVing to motels.
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09-02-2017, 02:48 AM
#46
Yeah, they do, but they're what I call "pocket" slides, which accommodate a table or a bed. The new thing is full wall slides, which provide massive amounts of interior space in comparison. That hasn't been done yet on a Prevost chassis.
And you're right, you can rent a luxury condo with a beautiful beach view from your balcony, or you can go to an RV resort and pull up within 10 yards of the beach.
And you're right, you can rent a luxury condo with a beautiful beach view from your balcony, or you can go to an RV resort and pull up within 10 yards of the beach.
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09-02-2017, 08:01 AM
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09-02-2017, 08:35 AM
#48
Foosh you really need to join the Summit Point Driver's Club and bring that RV out for the events. Mike or Harris are usually there but at this point I'm only one that stays at the event in an RV. Small event, open track, catered lunch. You just need someone to recommend you and to be solo qualified. Next event is in two weeks.
09-02-2017, 10:31 AM
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09-02-2017, 12:18 PM
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Foosh you really need to join the Summit Point Driver's Club and bring that RV out for the events. Mike or Harris are usually there but at this point I'm only one that stays at the event in an RV. Small event, open track, catered lunch. You just need someone to recommend you and to be solo qualified. Next event is in two weeks.
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09-02-2017, 01:10 PM
#51
SP has 30a and 50a power but no water or sewer. I keep bending their ears about adding at least a dump station like VIR has but no luck so far.
No convertibles without a roll bar at the SPDC events but I know that Chin allowed it at their event there last week. I had a student with a C6 427 convertible and now that I've rolled in a student's car on track I won't ever go on track again in a convertible.
PM me if you're interested in joining. Now back on topic
No convertibles without a roll bar at the SPDC events but I know that Chin allowed it at their event there last week. I had a student with a C6 427 convertible and now that I've rolled in a student's car on track I won't ever go on track again in a convertible.
PM me if you're interested in joining. Now back on topic
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09-02-2017, 01:28 PM
#52
I'm not sure I'd want to be on a track in a convertible either without a roll bar, because I know me, but I had to have a C7 convertible as a daily driver. I may bring the coach up to watch and hang w/ you guys. PM to follow later.
When I met my now wife 11 years ago, I was heavily involved in track stuff w/ my Lotus and C6 Z06. She tolerated it well, but I pretty much stopped because we were doing so much traveling. I want to get back in to it at some point.
When I met my now wife 11 years ago, I was heavily involved in track stuff w/ my Lotus and C6 Z06. She tolerated it well, but I pretty much stopped because we were doing so much traveling. I want to get back in to it at some point.
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09-02-2017, 02:41 PM
#53
Le Mans Master
The Prevost is hard to get worked on, but ours on a Freightliner chassis can also be serviced by any Freightliner or Cummins dealer. The engine and transmission are fully accessible by elevating the king-size bed, which is on pneumatic lifts, and/or removing another trap door in the floor of the rear bathroom, but that's only necessary for major repairs, which are very rare. Routine service and the most common repairs can be done by putting it on a lift. Most of these aren't logging 500K+ miles like over-the-road commercial trucks, which is usually when major engine/transmission work is required.
It's rated to tow 15K lbs.
It's rated to tow 15K lbs.
09-02-2017, 03:28 PM
#54
Yeah, I understand. There are advantages and disadvantages of each configuration.
However, there is no difference is terms of ease of regular maintenance, because you open the rear door of a diesel pusher, and every fill point, dip stick, coolant tank, etc. is right there at chest level while standing on the ground. In some ways, it's even easier because there's no bending over or reaching. Before every leg, I open "hood," in this case in the rear, just like opening the hood of any front-engined car or truck, and check engine and trannie oil, coolant etc.
One of reasons the Class A diesel pusher configuration is so popular is that every bit of the 40'+ length is livable space, as opposed to the truck cab, which consumes a lot of the length. The driver and passenger captain's chairs turn around and become cushy recliners in the lounge area. Ours are both massage chairs as well.
However, there is no difference is terms of ease of regular maintenance, because you open the rear door of a diesel pusher, and every fill point, dip stick, coolant tank, etc. is right there at chest level while standing on the ground. In some ways, it's even easier because there's no bending over or reaching. Before every leg, I open "hood," in this case in the rear, just like opening the hood of any front-engined car or truck, and check engine and trannie oil, coolant etc.
One of reasons the Class A diesel pusher configuration is so popular is that every bit of the 40'+ length is livable space, as opposed to the truck cab, which consumes a lot of the length. The driver and passenger captain's chairs turn around and become cushy recliners in the lounge area. Ours are both massage chairs as well.
09-02-2017, 04:19 PM
#55
Going from memory......I seem to recall #20K pound max towing on a Newell Coach.
I'm out near Newell Coach country, (Miami, OK) having noticed their awesomeness over the past 30 years.
I've gotten a heads up from a Foretravel, 45' ih model owner here in Texas, that if you're wanting to go Big League in your coach, that the Prevost Coach is the most durable, quality unit you can choose.
18 years ago, I was strongly considering a Foretravel, Unihome U320, 36' with the inline Cummins M11 turbodiesel engine. I'm certain I would have been happy with one. Nacogdoches, Texas in East Texas is where Foretravels are still manufactured.
I'm out near Newell Coach country, (Miami, OK) having noticed their awesomeness over the past 30 years.
I've gotten a heads up from a Foretravel, 45' ih model owner here in Texas, that if you're wanting to go Big League in your coach, that the Prevost Coach is the most durable, quality unit you can choose.
18 years ago, I was strongly considering a Foretravel, Unihome U320, 36' with the inline Cummins M11 turbodiesel engine. I'm certain I would have been happy with one. Nacogdoches, Texas in East Texas is where Foretravels are still manufactured.
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09-02-2017, 04:39 PM
#56
That is true about Prevost being the most durable. However, unless that Prevost is on the road 12 hours a day, 300 days a year, for 10 years, that durability is quite a bit of overkill.
I have a half-dozen friends w/ Prevost conversions. All of them sit well over 300 days a year, and they log maybe 3K miles on them a year.
I have a half-dozen friends w/ Prevost conversions. All of them sit well over 300 days a year, and they log maybe 3K miles on them a year.
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09-03-2017, 12:48 AM
#58
Burning Brakes
The Prevost' I've seen built in the last 10 years or so ALL have 3 or 4 slides.
I've been a motor home aficionado/owner (all diesels) off and on for 30 years now. My advise to anyone is that you have to enjoy or love the RVing mode of travel - versus motels. Many of us prefer RVing to motels.
I've been a motor home aficionado/owner (all diesels) off and on for 30 years now. My advise to anyone is that you have to enjoy or love the RVing mode of travel - versus motels. Many of us prefer RVing to motels.
09-03-2017, 01:35 AM
#59
Le Mans Master
Yeah, I understand. There are advantages and disadvantages of each configuration.
However, there is no difference is terms of ease of regular maintenance, because you open the rear door of a diesel pusher, and every fill point, dip stick, coolant tank, etc. is right there at chest level while standing on the ground. In some ways, it's even easier because there's no bending over or reaching. Before every leg, I open "hood," in this case in the rear, just like opening the hood of any front-engined car or truck, and check engine and trannie oil, coolant etc.
One of reasons the Class A diesel pusher configuration is so popular is that every bit of the 40'+ length is livable space, as opposed to the truck cab, which consumes a lot of the length. The driver and passenger captain's chairs turn around and become cushy recliners in the lounge area. Ours are both massage chairs as well.
However, there is no difference is terms of ease of regular maintenance, because you open the rear door of a diesel pusher, and every fill point, dip stick, coolant tank, etc. is right there at chest level while standing on the ground. In some ways, it's even easier because there's no bending over or reaching. Before every leg, I open "hood," in this case in the rear, just like opening the hood of any front-engined car or truck, and check engine and trannie oil, coolant etc.
One of reasons the Class A diesel pusher configuration is so popular is that every bit of the 40'+ length is livable space, as opposed to the truck cab, which consumes a lot of the length. The driver and passenger captain's chairs turn around and become cushy recliners in the lounge area. Ours are both massage chairs as well.
09-03-2017, 02:00 AM
#60
Sounds nice . . . keep me posted on what you do.