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Old 09-19-2017, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
There is no way you guys are going to tell me GM will NOT install the A10 next year. That alone is worth waiting.
It is very unlikely that the A10 will go in the 2019 Corvette. They have already said that it does not fit the C7.
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Originally Posted by Patman
It is very unlikely that the A10 will go in the 2019 Corvette. They have already said that it does not fit the C7.
Not with the current housing (where the bell housing is integrated).

Nothing would stop them from modifying that housing to get it to fit. Internals are supposedly no bigger than the A8.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
... The exception was during the C3 era, when they had no choice but to accommodate hideous low-speed collision bumpers to comply with regulations.
I actually think that Chevy did a great job with the bumpers during that time. Don't get me wrong, I like the chrome bumper C3's too, but remember the rubber bumpers and the big black rubber bumper extensions that Porsche, MG, Triumph, and Jaguar put on their cars during that era. I think that Chevy addressed the regulations with a decent looking and creative solution.

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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Not with the current housing (where the bell housing is integrated).

Nothing would stop them from modifying that housing to get it to fit. Internals are supposedly no bigger than the A8.
If it were an easy retrofit they would have done it by now.
Old 09-19-2017, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
If it were an easy retrofit they would have done it by now.
Housings are QUITE expensive. So not necessarily.
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
I'm waiting till next year. They need to do a refresh. Little design change, A10, more power.

Adding new wheels and HD radio dont cut it. Next year the gt500 will most likely show up, new Porsche and maybe new Supra. Its sad when cheaper Chevys have better infotainment and camaro has the new trans.
No design change in the C7, A10 will not fit, more power maybe, but it's hard to keep traction with 460 much less 650. So you might be waiting longer than you think.

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Old 09-19-2017, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
There is no way you guys are going to tell me GM will NOT install the A10 next year. That alone is worth waiting.
I'll fall on that sword and say it won't happen for the 2019 MY. It might be possible before the C7 run ends...maybe the last model year (BTW, for those thinking it, 2019 will probably not be the last MY) to complete the A6 / A8 / A10 sandwich. But next year, probably not. I think 2019 will be all about the ZR1 due to all of the countless tests we've been seeing over the past 6+ months.

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I don't think falling on your sword will be necessary. The overwhelming consensus is that you are right.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kenw
Maybe so but given the looks, performance and sales of the C7 it will get lots of support for many years. I just traded my 09Z and purchased a 17 WGG Z that I plan to keep a LOOONG time.
Keep in mind, the law mandates that manufacturers have to produce parts for 10 years after a model is introduced.

So by 2024, GM can shut down part production and discontinue ordering from suppliers. Your idea of a LOOONG time may not coincide with GM's or the supply of parts!
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
We all know that isn't true - if it were, how to you explain the 1975-1982 C3 Corvettes??? Or for that matter, the Mustang II!

Personally, I think we are close to or at the pinnacle of automotive performance (0-60, 0-100, cornering and braking); fuel economy and emissions regulations, just like they did in the 1970's will kill the performance car.
I really agree with this.

There has been a performance horsepower war going on the last few years between the major manufacturers. But nothing is free, including performance. So I suspect that prices will continue the trend of going up until they reach a point where sales drop off and I think that point is rapidly approaching now. I also have to wonder about insurance as these companies also have an impact on performance car sales via insurance rates. When I checked with USAA the cost to insure the ZO6 was much higher than the stingray. I suppose some of that is due to the cost of the car being more, but I am not ruling out the higher performance of the ZO6 also driving up insurance cost.

IMHO, everything has an end including this horsepower/performance war because unless the car is going to be tracked, it is getting harder to justify much more performance for the street, especially if adding that performance will drive up costs (which it will) and potentially impact sales
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Originally Posted by Foosh
I don't think falling on your sword will be necessary. The overwhelming consensus is that you are right.
He wont need too, it will be GM falling on it if there are no real changes.
Their sales have been dropping allot already and another year with no real changes is crazy especially after dropping all that money on a new "paint shop". I'm going to wait and pray. IF the gt500 comes out and c7 is the same.. There's going to be heavy drinking going on
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
He wont need too, it will be GM falling on it if there are no real changes.
Their sales have been dropping allot already and another year with no real changes is crazy especially after dropping all that money on a new "paint shop". I'm going to wait and pray. IF the gt500 comes out and c7 is the same.. There's going to be heavy drinking going on
The only change you'll get is the ZR1. After that the C7 is on autopilot until the C8 comes out.

They have to focus on the mid-engine and the C8.
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Originally Posted by Phanni
C-1 1953-1961
C-2 1964-1967
C-3 1968 - 1982

No production (for public) in 1983
C1 was 1953-1962
C2 was 1964-1967

I'd say the C8 will debut as a 2021 or 2022 model. Just a guess though.
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
We all know that isn't true - if it were, how to you explain the 1975-1982 C3 Corvettes??? Or for that matter, the Mustang II!

Personally, I think we are close to or at the pinnacle of automotive performance (0-60, 0-100, cornering and braking); fuel economy and emissions regulations, just like they did in the 1970's will kill the performance car.
Funny thing...., Zora Duntov said the 1963 Corvette was the Zenith (almost the same as pinnacle) of automotive engineering...., with it's independent rear suspension.... Then he said something similar (can't remember the quote) again in 1965 due to the addition of 4 wheel disk brakes and a big block engine. So, according to Duntov's logic, we should all be driving C2s. I'm just say'n
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Magazines are calling the mid-engine car the C8. When they say overlap they mean mid-engine.

They assume the halo mid-engine is the preview of the C8 which will be all mid-engine.

Neither of which are true. Currently there is a mid-engine program which was supposed to be released as a 2019, now a 2020. So yes the mid-engine will overlap with the C7 one year. However the C8 is front engine evolution of the current car.
Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
C1 was 1953-1962
C2 was 1964-1967

I'd say the C8 will debut as a 2021 or 2022 model. Just a guess though.
C2 = 1963-1967, not 1964
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Originally Posted by Patman
It is very unlikely that the A10 will go in the 2019 Corvette. They have already said that it does not fit the C7.
HA!.. you all may form the line to kneel to Zod

https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/f7c3a7...vette-zr1.html


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Originally Posted by lostsoul
Originally Posted by Patman
It is very unlikely that the A10 will go in the 2019 Corvette. They have already said that it does not fit the C7.
HA!.. you all may form the line to kneel to Zod

https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/f7c3a7...vette-zr1.html


Next prediction - Trump in 2020, and Raiders dont make it to the payoffs
@Lost -- Nothing in your link says anything concrete about an "A10" trans being in that ZR1, just that its an 'automatic' and 'presumably' (!) an A10. So for now, let's keep the silly kneeling to the NFL! LOL

EDIT TO ADD:
What was interesting is that the analog speedo shown in the interior shots goes up to "220" now instead of 200. Is that new, or is that in the Z06's already?


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Old 09-24-2017, 12:44 AM
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Yet another convertible beast that won't be allowed on a track as I doubt it will have roll over protection. I wonder how they are able to test on the ring without roll over protection, perhaps as a manufacturer they are exempt?
Old 09-24-2017, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lostsoul
HA!.. you all may form the line to kneel to Zod

https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/f7c3a7...vette-zr1.html


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In addition to the fact that Kent already mentioned how the article just says "presumably", it also is a 2018 ZR1, there is no mention of it being available on the 2019 Stingray. It's entirely possible that they first use the A10 only on the ZR1 and then wait to bring it out later on the C7 (or maybe it might not even get it until the C8) At this point there is no evidence whatsoever, just speculation. So I won't be bowing down to you.
Old 09-24-2017, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
I don't think falling on your sword will be necessary. The overwhelming consensus is that you are right.
Good one but you never know! They seem to get hype going many years prior to the new model. Seems like C7 will run 8-9 years.


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