Breaking NEWS - 2019 Orders start early!
#181
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Either route GM goes for members here IF they can get out without being nailed with a fee for something it might not be a bad idea. The discounts might make up for it even if you dont want to wait for the ME. Tough choice. Last time I fought through something epic like this was in the 80's.. Nintendo or Sega......
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I can just imagine the nonsense that will be coming out of the mouths of the car salesmen trying to sell a 2017 over a 2019 for nearly the same price.
The same guys who told me "Spice Red" was discontinued and replaced by Long Beach Red. When I corrected him and told him Spice Red was an interior color option and not an exterior color, he "corrected" me and told me Corvette only has one red interior.
Walked away...
The same guys who told me "Spice Red" was discontinued and replaced by Long Beach Red. When I corrected him and told him Spice Red was an interior color option and not an exterior color, he "corrected" me and told me Corvette only has one red interior.
Walked away...
They honestly should've played the Three Stooges theme after those crazy remarks. Any of them. Smart move by leaving.
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Yup.. it will be amusing to see them charge you the same for different wheels and HD radio.. haha
Either route GM goes for members here IF they can get out without being nailed with a fee for something it might not be a bad idea. The discounts might make up for it even if you dont want to wait for the ME. Tough choice. Last time I fought through something epic like this was in the 80's.. Nintendo or Sega......
Either route GM goes for members here IF they can get out without being nailed with a fee for something it might not be a bad idea. The discounts might make up for it even if you dont want to wait for the ME. Tough choice. Last time I fought through something epic like this was in the 80's.. Nintendo or Sega......
Me too! VHS or Betamax. Now it's Apple vs. Android.
I'm planning to pull the trigger in January as typically that is a great time of year to work out a Corvette deal. I live in Florida and I'm willing to shop online and coordinate a Museum delivery if necessary. I would prefer to buy local, however with the current and expected discounts, it will pay to shop around.
Even though I don't plan to buy a ZR1, rather stick with the Z06, I'm really curious of some of the "non-changes" like the test mule front fascia/cooling works it's way into the Z06. I few earlier test mules did not have the raised hood.
#184
I feel there is more to the story regarding the building of a "2019" C7 model so early in 2018.
1) GM realizes quite a few old school guys are not completely happy about losing the FE Vette.
This is their way of offering one more model year for those folks to snag one up.
2) The purpose of the "ZR1" is to help smooth over those ruffled feathers by making it the finest Corvette FE performer of all time.
The FE will go out with a bang, not a whimper.
3)The C8 ME is ready or nearly ready to go into production and they want to recoup development costs and get it into the marketplace ASAP.
1) GM realizes quite a few old school guys are not completely happy about losing the FE Vette.
This is their way of offering one more model year for those folks to snag one up.
2) The purpose of the "ZR1" is to help smooth over those ruffled feathers by making it the finest Corvette FE performer of all time.
The FE will go out with a bang, not a whimper.
3)The C8 ME is ready or nearly ready to go into production and they want to recoup development costs and get it into the marketplace ASAP.
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#186
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Making leftover 16s, 17s & 18s more attractive to buyers by significantly raising the 19 prices doesn't sound crazy to me.
In fact it makes perfect sense to deplete the leftover inventories.
Not significantly raising the 19's price would IMO be crazy.
Just my $.02.
#187
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So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
#188
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2019 will be the last of the C7 because the C7 sales are pretty horrible now. A refreshed version of the C7 will come out as a 2020 model year, so the production run on 2019 will be cut short to close the factory for retooling.
This is a good business move to ensure they have stock on dealer lots through the first half of 2019. The only thing they seemed to have really screwed up on is the ZR1 release. What the heck is taking so long is baffling.
This is a good business move to ensure they have stock on dealer lots through the first half of 2019. The only thing they seemed to have really screwed up on is the ZR1 release. What the heck is taking so long is baffling.
#189
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So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
#190
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It seems to me that the very concept of model "year" is becoming obsolete, especially if '19s are being hyped already. I don't know of a good solution but if you can order a '19 in '17, something is getting very twisted...
#191
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Nope, they say since what I ordered is a "special order" it might be hard to sell, to they make a deposit on special-orders non-refundable once they hit "3000" because it affects their allotment. I don't disagree with their logic, but I ordered an Admiral Blue GS Vert M7, with gray leather interior and top. It's the color they display at the auto expos, so I know it's a good color, otherwise Chevy wouldn't have chosen it for the unveiling of the GS. I have no gripes against MacMulkin, they've been great, but GM has succeeded in torpedoing my goal of a guilt-free purchase of my very first brand-new Corvette. (I bought a used C5 years ago) What to do, what to do???
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I really don't understand why GM even opened up orders for 2018 prior to the plant shut down instead of just offering 2017 models through the end of June. Now that the plant is getting ready to re-open, why not take 2018 model orders in 2018?! Why do the models being ordered in late January 2018 have to be 2019 models?
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I am working with my dealer right now. They just received my deposit check today, but no order has been placed then. I spoke with them Wednesday evening after reading the forums. At that time, they did not have any insight into this news. Their advice was that if GM did not say it, don't believe it. Now that other folks are talking about it...it appears to have some validity.
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
#194
You're losing a paltry 6 months of "exclusivity" before your '18 would have been "out of date" by your way of thinking per a traditional production schedule, and this little change is now going to wrack your soul with guilt?
You ask what to do . . . I'd first suggest enjoying the hell out of the car when you receive it, and if that doesn't work, perhaps therapy.
But, what do I know? Life is good with my '14, which before it's 3rd delivery date birthday (February 14, 2018), will be 6 MYs old and look exactly like a comparable 2019. I think I'll keep the old girl for quite some time.
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#195
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Wow, seriously?
You're losing a paltry 6 months of "exclusivity" before your '18 would have been "out of date" by your way of thinking per a traditional production schedule, and this little change is now going to wrack your soul with guilt?
You ask what to do . . . I'd first suggest enjoying the hell out of the car when you receive it, and if that doesn't work, perhaps therapy.
But, what do I know? Life is good with my '14, which before it's 3rd delivery date birthday (February 14, 2018), will be 6 MYs old and look exactly like a comparable 2019. I think I'll keep the old girl for quite some time.
You're losing a paltry 6 months of "exclusivity" before your '18 would have been "out of date" by your way of thinking per a traditional production schedule, and this little change is now going to wrack your soul with guilt?
You ask what to do . . . I'd first suggest enjoying the hell out of the car when you receive it, and if that doesn't work, perhaps therapy.
But, what do I know? Life is good with my '14, which before it's 3rd delivery date birthday (February 14, 2018), will be 6 MYs old and look exactly like a comparable 2019. I think I'll keep the old girl for quite some time.
thank you for your kind, empathetic and helpful response.
I could care less about exclusivity, I'm more concerned with my car being one model-year older than a car that was built 7-14 days later than my car, and the ramifications that entails on trade-in or selling it down the road. If you don't understand what's concerning me about that, then please move on and be a keyboard cowboy with someone else.
#196
It was not intended to offend, but there is nothing to be done here if you can't cancel your order. It is what it is, and you can either wallow in misery about it, or look forward to enjoying your great new car. Your choice . . .
My response was a tongue-in-cheek attempt to put things in proper perspective, and clearly didn't work with you, so wring your hands and wallow away. Seem to me I have more to say "woe is me" about than you do. I have a 6MY-old car that's not even 3 years old and couldn't care less, but that's the difference between you and me.
In the grand scheme of things, there's not much difference between 6 months and a couple of weeks.
My response was a tongue-in-cheek attempt to put things in proper perspective, and clearly didn't work with you, so wring your hands and wallow away. Seem to me I have more to say "woe is me" about than you do. I have a 6MY-old car that's not even 3 years old and couldn't care less, but that's the difference between you and me.
In the grand scheme of things, there's not much difference between 6 months and a couple of weeks.
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The fact of the matter is, if you plan on keeping your car for a long time, it really won't make much difference if you have a 2018 or a 2019 in terms of trade in value. Much like there is almost no difference at all with me currently trading in my 2005 compared to if it had been a 2006 instead.
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thank you for your kind, empathetic and helpful response.
I could care less about exclusivity, I'm more concerned with my car being one model-year older than a car that was built 7-14 days later than my car, and the ramifications that entails on trade-in or selling it down the road. If you don't understand what's concerning me about that, then please move on and be a keyboard cowboy with someone else.
I could care less about exclusivity, I'm more concerned with my car being one model-year older than a car that was built 7-14 days later than my car, and the ramifications that entails on trade-in or selling it down the road. If you don't understand what's concerning me about that, then please move on and be a keyboard cowboy with someone else.
Six months later, both owners are involved in accidents totaling the cars. If they have the same insurance company and policy type, mileage, etc. what is the difference in compensation assuming neither owner has full replacement coverage. Just coverage based on Blue Book value?
#199
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Making leftover 16s, 17s & 18s more attractive to buyers by significantly raising the 19 prices doesn't sound crazy to me.
In fact it makes perfect sense to deplete the leftover inventories.
Not significantly raising the 19's price would IMO be crazy.
Just my $.02.
In fact it makes perfect sense to deplete the leftover inventories.
Not significantly raising the 19's price would IMO be crazy.
Just my $.02.
If they want to "deplete" the inventory than why are they moving up the 2019 model year?
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I am working with my dealer right now. They just received my deposit check today, but no order has been placed then. I spoke with them Wednesday evening after reading the forums. At that time, they did not have any insight into this news. Their advice was that if GM did not say it, don't believe it. Now that other folks are talking about it...it appears to have some validity.
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
For me it would be a no brainer...stop them from placing a 2018 model order and wait to order a 2019. Or cancel the order and wait for the BIG discounts on 2018s when the 2019 roll out.
Easy decision.
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