Breaking NEWS - 2019 Orders start early!
#201
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I could care less about exclusivity, I'm more concerned with my car being one model-year older than a car that was built 7-14 days later than my car, and the ramifications that entails on trade-in or selling it down the road. If you don't understand what's concerning me about that, then please move on and be a keyboard cowboy with someone else.
So the question becomes - and without the benefit of 2019 pricing - whether it is worth losing the sure $2,000 deposit to maybe or maybe not save up to $1,000 in resale 2-4 years down the road.
If it were me, and the car ordered is what you want, I'd stick with the order i have.
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#202
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Well the benefit to a 2018 is you'll own a Corvette of the lowest production year since the 1950's (excluding 1983 of course)! And if you have a thing against odd numbers, 18 is an even year!
I'd put in an order for an odd color like the new Orange, and you'll own a very rare car at a very good price!!
I'd put in an order for an odd color like the new Orange, and you'll own a very rare car at a very good price!!
#203
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I really don't understand why GM even opened up orders for 2018 prior to the plant shut down instead of just offering 2017 models through the end of June. Now that the plant is getting ready to re-open, why not take 2018 model orders in 2018?! Why do the models being ordered in late January 2018 have to be 2019 models?
I guess it all comes down to the specific changes going into the 2019 "model year" and if those changes (although minor) justify doing it in the announced fashion versus what you said. The only real concrete information outside of random spyshots (which I've seen more of lately than actual Corvettes), is Sebring Orange being added to the color line-up. I guess we'll know that probably as soon as next month.
#204
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Making leftover 16s, 17s & 18s more attractive to buyers by significantly raising the 19 prices doesn't sound crazy to me.
In fact it makes perfect sense to deplete the leftover inventories.
Not significantly raising the 19's price would IMO be crazy.
Just my $.02.
In fact it makes perfect sense to deplete the leftover inventories.
Not significantly raising the 19's price would IMO be crazy.
Just my $.02.
It's not how the game is played. They will have to offer deep incentives on 16, 17, and 18's or dealers will be stuck with a glut of cars and will stop ordering new ones from GM.
Vehicle manufacturing plants are upgraded all the time. New ones are built all the time. This is planned, budgeted, forecasted, etc years in advance and it's not like GM or Ford, or VW, or Toyota jacks up the price of their vehicles in a single year to pay for a plant update/build.
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#205
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Originally Posted by Blue666's
So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
#206
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by Foosh
Wow, seriously?
You're losing a paltry 6 months of "exclusivity" before your '18 would have been "out of date" by your way of thinking per a traditional production schedule, and this little change is now going to wrack your soul with guilt?
You ask what to do . . . I'd first suggest enjoying the hell out of the car when you receive it, and if that doesn't work, perhaps therapy.
But, what do I know? Life is good with my '14, which before it's 3rd delivery date birthday (February 14, 2018), will be 6 MYs old and look exactly like a comparable 2019. I think I'll keep the old girl for quite some time.
You're losing a paltry 6 months of "exclusivity" before your '18 would have been "out of date" by your way of thinking per a traditional production schedule, and this little change is now going to wrack your soul with guilt?
You ask what to do . . . I'd first suggest enjoying the hell out of the car when you receive it, and if that doesn't work, perhaps therapy.
But, what do I know? Life is good with my '14, which before it's 3rd delivery date birthday (February 14, 2018), will be 6 MYs old and look exactly like a comparable 2019. I think I'll keep the old girl for quite some time.
If you want the full truth, anyone buying now is late along in the C7 game. The car was debuted in 2013. Time passes, things get old. It should not stop anyone from enjoying what is truly a great car.
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This is the honest truth. Does anyone honestly care if my car is a a brand new 18 or the 15 that it is?
If you want the full truth, anyone buying now is late along in the C7 game. The car was debuted in 2013. Time passes, things get old. It should not stop anyone from enjoying what is truly a great car.
If you want the full truth, anyone buying now is late along in the C7 game. The car was debuted in 2013. Time passes, things get old. It should not stop anyone from enjoying what is truly a great car.
What year is my car?
All summer long, people have asked me "is that a '17" or "is that an "18".
Its a '15.
Thank you GM for not changing the look! Mine will be "new", and the current version, at least thru 2019.
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#208
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Since the 2018's came out in June, 2017's are and have been selling for about 2-4% less than 2018's - so on a GS that is about $1,500-$3,000; and in the used market, the difference between comparable 2015's & 2016's is $2-3,000.
So the question becomes - and without the benefit of 2019 pricing - whether it is worth losing the sure $2,000 deposit to maybe or maybe not save up to $1,000 in resale 2-4 years down the road.
If it were me, and the car ordered is what you want, I'd stick with the order i have.
So the question becomes - and without the benefit of 2019 pricing - whether it is worth losing the sure $2,000 deposit to maybe or maybe not save up to $1,000 in resale 2-4 years down the road.
If it were me, and the car ordered is what you want, I'd stick with the order i have.
I thank you so much for your input. After going over and over everything in my mind, I think you are probably correct. Unless there is a significant update between the 18's and 19's, I'll just stick with what I have. I still think that what GM is doing is kinda Douche-y to people that ordered a 2018, but I'll live with it. I have a TPW of 1/1/18, so I'll just wait and see if there are any incentives in play when I pick it up at the Museum. <fingers crossed> Nicole and MacMulkin have been great, despite GM's shenanigans.
#209
I just went to KBB and priced out the trade-in values of identical '14 vs. '15 Z51, M7, 2LT, MSRC convertibles (identical mileage, equipment, color, condition, etc.), and the difference was $883.
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#210
So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
#211
I am in the same boat..... I ordered a 2018 Z06 LZ3 in mid September with 2k down. I am at production level 3000 with a tpw of 1-1-18. Approximately 4 weeks later they will be producing 2019’s. Crazy!!!
For me, it’s not about the 2k. It’s about being treated fairly and getting the newest model. If I wanted a 1 year old car, I would have bought a 2017 from inventory with a great deal.
I agree with those who already have their car and have enjoyed it for 5 months, but unless the dealer allows me to change my order for a 2019 or comes back to me with outstanding incentives I will probably walk and place my order for a new 2019 with another dealer as soon as orders open.
For me, it’s not about the 2k. It’s about being treated fairly and getting the newest model. If I wanted a 1 year old car, I would have bought a 2017 from inventory with a great deal.
I agree with those who already have their car and have enjoyed it for 5 months, but unless the dealer allows me to change my order for a 2019 or comes back to me with outstanding incentives I will probably walk and place my order for a new 2019 with another dealer as soon as orders open.
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#212
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by FL_guy
I am in the same boat..... I ordered a 2018 Z06 LZ3 in mid September with 2k down. I am at production level 3000 with a tpw of 1-1-18. Approximately 4 weeks later they will be producing 2019’s. Crazy!!!
For me, it’s not about the 2k. It’s about being treated fairly and getting the newest model. If I wanted a 1 year old car, I would have bought a 2017 from inventory with a great deal.
I agree with those who already have their car and have enjoyed it for 5 months, but unless the dealer allows me to change my order for a 2019 or comes back to me with outstanding incentives I will probably walk and place my order for a new 2019 with another dealer as soon as orders open.
For me, it’s not about the 2k. It’s about being treated fairly and getting the newest model. If I wanted a 1 year old car, I would have bought a 2017 from inventory with a great deal.
I agree with those who already have their car and have enjoyed it for 5 months, but unless the dealer allows me to change my order for a 2019 or comes back to me with outstanding incentives I will probably walk and place my order for a new 2019 with another dealer as soon as orders open.
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Good for you. The car might be different, the prospect of having a 10 speed auto would in my opinion make it well worthwhile to what a sort time more for delivery. In any case you can be certain that a few quirks in the 2018 will be addressed in the 2019 not to mention a better paint job. All worth waiting for.
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So I just got an email from MacMulkin that my 2018 is now at "3000" with a TPW of 1-1-18. So my deposit ($2000) is toast if I back out. So essentially a Corvette built 14 days after mine is a 2019, while mine is a 2018. Nicole at MacMulkin has been wonderful to deal with, and I have no gripe against MacMulkin, she said they were totally blind-sided by this too, but it really galls me to have to take a depreciation hit above and beyond what I'm already taking as the original owner of a brand-new Corvette. I'm really debating whether or not to just kiss the $2K goodbye and just wait for a 2019, especially if GM doesn't do away with the Admiral Blue, like the 2018 I ordered. Any thoughts?
#216
Team Owner
I am working with my dealer right now. They just received my deposit check today, but no order has been placed then. I spoke with them Wednesday evening after reading the forums. At that time, they did not have any insight into this news. Their advice was that if GM did not say it, don't believe it. Now that other folks are talking about it...it appears to have some validity.
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
Now the question for me and my dealer (MacMulkin) is to what to do here on Friday, October 13th? Do I proceed with creating a new order for a 2018 or do I wait 47 days to place an order for a 2019?
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It could also be that the rumored Mobil1 0W-40 motor oil is the new oil, and that new oil yields a (for CAFE purposes) meaningful increase (0.2-0.4 mpg) in fuel economy for the C7 - in which case, GM will want credit for that increase for as long possible, so switching over to a 2019 in January makes sense - as it can't recertify the 2018's.
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To those in that situation, with this strange, unexpected, circumstance that it is, maybe see if they would split the difference and allow you to apply half of that deposit to a 2019 order instead of forfeiting it all. That might be a decent compromise.
#220
I read every post in this thread. This post really caught my attention. If it's true that the oil change, along with some electronics changes, increase the gas mileage, even just a little, then this entire scenario makes some sense. I was convinced there's going to be a change like an intro of the A-10 or the new front bumper for all the wide body Corvettes. But an increase in fuel economy along with the marketing items brought up in this thread may have accumulated enough momentum to cause GM to make this decision that would permit recertification. That would mean no outward appearance changes to the existing C7 models. In that case, I wouldn't be too concerned if I had already ordered or purchased a 2018. I guess we'll see when the 2019s actually hit the road.
Rumor has it that the change to 0w-40 Mobil 1 will be backward compatible.
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