lostsoul

2 mid engines were just at Micky D's for the 2 egg Mc Muffins for $4. Is GM really going to keep doing that for another year and a half? GT500 will be rolling out soon. The Zr1 will cost way over that. I cant wait.. so much excitement.

Silver&Blue

my thoughts very odd!

Supersonic 427

Taking orders for '19's in November of '17 is unheard of! So 2018 model year production will only consist of June, July, November and December of '17. My '18 Z06 is VIN 100 and was built on 6/6/17 (second day of '18 production). Thought getting one that early would keep it current for the full year......NOT!

sunsalem

IF Mr. Conti doesn't come right out and say the 2019s WON'T be delivered in 2018, then anyone who is holding a "2018" order that isn't a ZR1 better reconsider pronto...

Judgment Day

2018 Model Year: We hardly knew ye...

I've literally only seen one up close during the first oil change of my 2017, and now we're moving on to 2019 ordering inside of 90 days?

I remember those days How many miles have you put on your new purchase thus far?

Ls1fury

This situation is quite irritating.......I have a 2018 Z06 C65 edt. on order and just received a TPW of 12/11.
Now what am I supposed to think about all this.
Clearly there is some sort of change in store for MY '19 and my guess is it will be across the board on all models, certainly Grand sport and above.....Or at least that's how I interpret this news.
Having just moved to event code 3000 last week, it's to late to make an adjustment without there being consequences for someone on this deal.
-Do I keep my order and take delivery of it in January when it will essentially be a model year old already (2019 will likely be rolling down the line by the time I see my car) with possibly outdated appearance/tech?
- Do I forfeit my deposit and cancel? Losing $1000 in the grand scheme of things is not a huge deal I guess, but worse than that.....
-If I cancelled my order my dealer is still on the hook for that car and I'm dropping my problem off in his lap. I risk ruining that relationship and my integrity as a man of my word.
Damn you GM......This is not how I visioned my 1st Corvette buying experience to go.
I wish there was more information because I have to make a decision, AND SOON!

Patman

I don't think the resale value difference will be enough though. Think about this for a second, the person ordering the 2018 would lose their deposit (probably $2000) and then any discount they got on the 2018 (let's say $4000) would also go away (dealers would probably not discount the 2019s at all if they are a hot commodity) Then on top of that the price of the 2019 could be $2000 more. So for arguments sake, let's say that cancelling the 2018 order and going into a 2019 now costs the buyer an extra $8000. Do you really think the used value of a 2018 is going to be worth $8000 less than the 2019 in the future. I don't.

If someone has the money, and the 2019 has big changes, then that's fine. But to say they'll save money in the long run by cancelling the order and going with the 2019, that's not going to happen.

Champ203

As someone with a 2018 GS on order I’m hearing that there are zero changes on the 2019’s at this point. For those worried about model year/car value I’d be more concerned about the mid engine being available sooner than later and the marketplace being flooded with C7 trades...

But I’m new to this world so maybe I’m wrong.....however I am typing this from a Hampton Inn.

Peace,
Don

Grimlock13

AS someone interested in Sebring Orange, I hope either a dealer orders some of the 2018 in that color or it stays as a color available on 2019 (most likely)

I don't want to order one without seeing a car in that color in person.

Ls1fury

I have also heard reports that outside of a new model introduction, there are not to be any significant changes or updates to the remaining lineup for 2019. However from a business perspective, it's absolutely in GM's best interest to continue with that narrative.

Dealers have thousands of Corvettes ( 2016's, 2017's and apparently now 2018's) they need to unload. All of which will be dated in 3 short months. If they came out and admitted there are changes in the works for MY '19 they would have to HEAVILY discount and incentivize all their current stock.
GM has much more to lose financially by admitting there are major updates/changes than anything they stand to gain, with the ZR1 being excluded from my theory.

Another question that comes to mind..... assuming that this is a newsletter or email sent out to all dealers by GM, why are no other dealers or forum sponsors reporting on this yet?
Even if there only a select group of people "in the know" with that information, I would think someone else other than Rick would chime in as there are quite a few high profile persons whom roam these pages.
In no way am I trying to discredit Rick or say the information isn't valid, quite the opposite really. I applaud his forthright and honest reporting, stand up guy right there!
But it seems no one else is ready to let that cat out of the bag for possible fear of diminished sales on current inventory?

Patman

I understand where some of you are coming from, that you feel like your 2018 will already be outdated as soon as you get it because the 2019s are coming out. But think of it this way, outside of the Corvette world, nobody will think your 2018 is outdated in calendar year 2018! If you tell the average person your car is a 2018 they will say WOW, they won't think, man that car is a year old already. If you're the type to trade your Corvette in for a new one every 2-3 years then it might be a slight issue, but if you're planning on keeping it a while, it really won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Don't let the introduction of the 2019 model taint your experience of Corvette ownership! The 2018 (just like the 2014-1017 before it) is still an amazing car! That hasn't changed just because of it's short production run.

Dave1998

Put me down for a ZR1 and deliver it to EVS in Menomonee Falls !

MSG C5

I just don't understand the GM logic to produce a 2018 model year Corvette for only 3 months in 2017? Why didn't they just extend 2017 production through June and the plant closing and then start 2018 production in November/December after the plant reopens, instead of starting production as a 2019 model?

That's why I think it's a marketing ploy to introduce the ZR1 and the mid-engine whatever at the Detroit Auto show in January. If they market the ZR1 as 2019 and the mid-engine as a 2020 they effectively don't have to make any changes for 2 years while they focus on prepping for the C8 debut in 2020. That would give the C7 generation a 6-year calendar run, which is shorter (as GM executive originally indicated) than both the C5 (8 years) and C6 (9 years).

Based on the "leaked" photos of the ZR1 with very little camo, it seems the mid-engine is still heavily covered so it may be about 6-12 months behind the ZR1 in terms of when GM plans to unveil it.

Stay tuned as I think the November-January period is going to be exciting for Corvette fans.

dmhines

Explain that to KBB. Any new 2018 owner gets the double whammy. Drive off the lot depreciation + old model year depreciation. GM is gonna need serious incentives to clear all the 2017’s and 2018’s off the lots. Even 2017 owners getting screwed my short 2018 production.

DWS44

Maybe SC will take that into consideration and drop the tax value of my 2017 early before the annual property tax is due again next summer!

Patman

Any with 2018 orders like myself could heavily benefit then, if they have some pretty good incentives for December/January when a lot of us will be taking delivery.

Depreciation off the lot means nothing unless you're planning on trading in the car almost right away, which I'm not.

MacMulkin

As reported by the Corvette Action Center:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...s-in-november/

rob62

eww eww, I'm gonna lose money on my 18, eww. Can I sue chevy? Ewwww,why,why,why?Is a 19 gonna have more H.P.? Will chevy have a H.P. kit I can put in my 18 that they will pay for? What if there's a new color I like better?What if the engine is in the rear? Why didn't they tell me? Eww,It's not fair I say, not fair ,not fair. I should be able to trade up for free god dam it!!!

Patman

It sounds to me like the only difference between my 1LT 2018 Stingray and a 1LT 2019 Stingray is the addition of M1 0w40 as factory fill. So on my first oil change I'll switch over to 0w40 and voila, I now have a 2019!

Frosty

When I dissect this cryptic statement made by Rick a number of things come to mind

"With the announcement today of 2018 Corvettes order done 11/20/17 and 2019’s Start up on 11/30 ( production very end of January)"

First this is an incredibly cryptic statement and as such is open to interpretation as many have already called out. Second and so far, it is totally unsubstantiated by any other dealership so as far as I am concerned this still falls into the category of RUMINT as we used to say in the biz (I had a career in military intelligence). Rick, if you were provided a press release, why not spend a few extra minutes writing for clarity?

This appears to be a grenade thrown into the forum for affect and I can only guess at what the motive is to write something so cryptic and open to interpretation.

What I suspect that this may be all about, is the ZR1 introduction and marketing it vis-a-vis the existing 2018 ZO6. It just makes no sense to create such discord within the customer base who have been patiently enduring the 3 month shutdown to get their 2018 order fulfilled. And what substantial changes would they have realistically been able to implement in such a short period of time on the existing Stingray, GS and ZO6 models to justify a new model year designation?

It just doesn't pass the smell test and I remain highly skeptical. I won't waste my time or my ordering dealer's time looking into whether I should cancel my 2018 order as some are already suggesting.