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Old 10-19-2017, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JerriVette
Anybody who is enjoying g their 2017 corvettes isn't getting screwed...they can't wipe the smiles off their faces every minute of everyday...

I'd say they made out just fine
I paid like $62K for a 2017 new had an MSRP of close to $71K. It was a big enough discount that I didn't consider buying used, the market for used C7s at the time was so stupid overpriced that it was ridiculous. What all this hand-wringing over price misses is that if you buy a car like this new, you're going to get 'killed' on trade-in sooner or later regardless- except Corvettes hold their value WAY better than say a mid sized BMW luxury sedan that went out the door for a similar price.

I bought this car for the long haul. My first Corvette was a 2007 C6- when I got that car it had only 20,500 miles on it but it was 8 years old. I paid about $29K (it was a local one owner cream-puff). My point is that my 2017 won't be that age - 7 model years old - until 2024. At the rate I'm driving the car maybe it will have 60K miles by then. I really doubt I'm going to be all hot to trot for a C8, these cars are generally above my pay grade, this could kind of be it for me.
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Sorry I find adding any of these to a sports car would be laughable. The worst one of all would be lane-keeping assist. I can't imagine fighting such a system as I zip around traffic.
Lane keep assist is user defeat-able. Not sure about the auto braking but adaptive cruise is the best thing since canned beer (back in the day we called those road sodas, happily time have changed) and all these features will continually improve safety for the cars that have them - and the other cars around them - as they trickle down the auto food chain.

They work seamlessly - yes lane keep assist can be annoying but there's a button on our Prius Prime steering wheel that lets you shut it off. But I wanted a car with these features for my wife who drives a long distance to work. Fall asleep at the wheel and lane keep assist (which is one step beyond just lane keep alert) will absolutely save your life. Auto braking will prevent lower speed crashes that can wreck your car- and mitigate impact speed in higher causality incidents, possibly reducing injury or again, saving your life.

I see no reason these shouldn't be on a $60K-$100K car like a Corvette. That's inevitable. The only reason they are not is these systems were just coming to market during C7 development and space and weight considerations precluded them from this car. But they will be on the next one. You can't sell $100K cars without this stuff when our new Prius Prime (MSRP $30K, net price after subsidies and discounts more like $21K) come standard with them.

Don't worry, they will not hinder your sports car experience or your adolescent desire to drive like an adolescent moron (I do it sometimes myself, I try not to do it that often). Look man, when I was 19 I was shooting gaps in a VW Bug. Doing that in the C7 is ridiculous, it's a huge rush, the problem with the car is it requires race car driver concentration because it's so friggin fast it wouldn't be hard to make a mistake and plant it under the back end of an 18 wheeler.

I've only had like 3 minor accidents in 42 years of driving, nothing major, and the last incident was 35+ years ago. But as they say in finance, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

I need all the help I can get. So do we all.
Old 10-19-2017, 08:11 AM
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I hate auto braking.

If you drive AT ALL aggressively it will brake when you want to accelerate, very dangerous.
Old 10-19-2017, 08:44 AM
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Am I one of the only Neanderthals who never even uses cruise control? I only turned it on once to make sure it worked. I'm not opposed to any of these driver aids, which for the most part will save lives, but I also think doing everything manually keeps me more alert.
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Am I one of the only Neanderthals who never even uses cruise control? I only turned it on once to make sure it worked. I'm not opposed to any of these driver aids, which for the most part will save lives, but I also think doing everything manually keeps me more alert.
I've never really ever used cruise control, even in my DD business sedans. The only time I rarely used it was when I was driving at night on an expressway with little or no traffic. It seemed to me that whenever I tried to use it, someone would merge in front of me causing me to slow down, accelerate, or pass. It rarely lasts long enough to be useful.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Am I one of the only Neanderthals who never even uses cruise control? I only turned it on once to make sure it worked. I'm not opposed to any of these driver aids, which for the most part will save lives, but I also think doing everything manually keeps me more alert.
I use Cruise only for 5-10 minutes when I get a foot crap during long drives. Otherwise it's too boring. I prefer to drive all the time.

Driver aids to me are pointless.
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On the highway, I always use cruise control unless the traffic is really congested and keeps slowing down/speeding up, etc.

One advantage is that it keeps me from paying a lawyer to help me keep my driver's license.

The other advantage is that it helps me from getting leg cramps.

Drive 500 miles across Kansas and eastern Colorado at 80 MPH on I-70 or across Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico on I44/I-40, or drive across South Dakota and Wyoming on I-90 and you will appreciate having the cruise control turned on.

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Old 10-19-2017, 11:55 AM
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can only speak for my daily driver as I don't have a C7 yet but I use it if traffic is clear, mainly to restrict my speed and save gas. I probably would do the same with the corvette - I try to avoid aggressive driving on the highway unless it's needed to avoid an idiot
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
No one makes better sausage and egg biscuits than Hardee's/Carl's Jr, and $2.50 for two of them is a better deal than egg McMuffin's, $4 for two of them.

Beside, anyone who thinks McDonalds has tasty food is a fool.
Heathen! McD's rocks!
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
On the highway, I always use cruise control unless the traffic is really congested and keeps slowing down/speeding up, etc.

One advantage is that it keeps me from paying a lawyer to help me keep my driver's license.

The other advantage is that it helps me from getting leg cramps.

Drive 500 miles across Kansas and eastern Colorado at 80 MPH on I-70 or across Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico on I44/I-40, or drive across South Dakota and Wyoming on I-90 and you will appreciate having the cruise control turned on.
For once I actually agree 100% with you. Cruise control is a godsend on long trips, I couldn't possibly live without it, for all of those reasons you mentioned. Having adaptive cruise control would just be the icing on the cake. I don't see it coming on the C7 at all though, and I'm only 50% confident it'll be on the C8.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Am I one of the only Neanderthals who never even uses cruise control?
No, you are not.
I've never tried it in mine and probably never will.

CC in a Corvette defeats the purpose of having a Sportscar in the first place...might as well have a Corolla.
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Heathen! McD's rocks!
I love their fries and egg mcmuffins.
Old 10-19-2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by roadbike56
To me the only logical reason for releasing the 2019's so early is, there's going to be a major change to the C7. I don't think the Corvette gang was sitting around the lunch room and someone said, "Hey let's shake things up and release the 2019s at the beginning of 2018." And everyone said, "that's a GREAT idea".
I think there's a major change that's big enough to cause them to decide move the model year up. Could be the A10 was fitted to the C7 frame. Maybe that new front end we've seen on the ZR1 is going to be an across the board change, maybe both.
I'm convinced this isn't going to be some new improved entertainment system, two or three new colors and everything else is the same. Nope, not gonna happen. Some major change to the C7 is coming.
Or, it could be the end of the line for the C7 gen !
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Yeah, agree. It's a marketing play, and it seems to be working here for the most part.
This lets them say the '19 MY is painted in the new paint shop.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
No, you are not.
I've never tried it in mine and probably never will.

CC in a Corvette defeats the purpose of having a Sportscar in the first place...might as well have a Corolla.
Disagree wholeheartedly! Do you take long highway trips in your Vette ever? I've done a few and if you're going to be doing a steady highway speed for hours at the time, why wouldn't you use the cruise control? It'll get very tiresome on your feet not doing so.

Last December my wife and I took the kids to Florida and we rented a minivan for the trip. In total, I drove about 50-60 hours on that trip (there and back) There is absolutely no way I could have done that trip comfortably without cruise control. I will be making that exact same trip every winter with my C7 (starting in 2022) and I will most definitely use the CC on that journey. Using CC in a Corvette makes it no less of a sportscar as having an automatic transmission does. Just because you let the computer do some of the work doesn't mean the car is as boring as a Corolla.
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I missed something.............. How did we get on the subject of cc ?
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I missed something.............. How did we get on the subject of cc ?
It beats black wheels vs chrome.

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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp
Your still getting the newest model you ordered....

He isn’t if the 19s have new features or equipment, which they likely do.
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
I missed something.............. How did we get on the subject of cc ?
Someone expressed their desire for "adaptive cruise control" in the discussion about possible new features coming w/ 2019s.
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It would be nice if Corvette had a pothole detection to work with the mag ride like Ford offers. They have front cameras and the mag ride system available in the Corvette, so how much harder could it be to add the pothole ride smoothing feature Ford has?

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