How many plan on cancelling their 2018 order?
10-12-2017, 10:26 AM
#21
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What's the point of a deposit if the buyer can back out of the deal and get it back? That's not good for the dealer at all, anyone could just leave a deposit, order a car and back out of the deal and then they are stuck with that car (which could be hard to sell if it's a weird order) At least with a non refundable deposit the dealer gets something in the case of people backing out.
I truly hope not too many people plan on cancelling their orders. It would certainly strain that relationship with the dealer.
I truly hope not too many people plan on cancelling their orders. It would certainly strain that relationship with the dealer.
"I bought my Corvette from Mike. After 50 years of owning Corvettes I will not buy from anyone else.
My story on my C7. The C7 was introduced on Jan 13, 2013. I called a large NJ Corvette dealer and asked to be placed on a buy list or put in line to purchase. I was told it was to early to call back later in 2013. I called Mike because I saw on the Forum he was credible.
Mike took my totally refundable deposit on Jan 15 , 2013 . I received my 2014 Z51 C7 on
October 4, 2013."
When I special ordered my C5 in the summer of 1997, I gave the out of state dealer a $1,000 refundable deposit. C5's were extremely hard to find and virtually no discounting was seen. It was truly a seller's market in 1997, unlike the current 2018 C7 market.
Your belief that ALL deposits are non refundable is wrong, and you should not be spreading that as a fact.
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10-12-2017, 10:26 AM
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Seems to me if GM is going to a very early 2019 MY corvette introduction, there likely is something significant between the 18 and the 19 ( like for instance maybe they figured out how to shoe horn an A10 into the 19 and or other big changes ) or else why do it ? Doesn’t make any sense otherwise.
According to here though, no changes for the 2019 except for Mobil 1 0w40 as the new factory fill:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...s-in-november/
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...s-in-november/
10-12-2017, 10:55 AM
#23
I'm assuming there will be no Carbon 65 package for 2019s so also assume those who want that package will have to stay with their 2018 orders.
Personally, I got a good look at the Carbon 65 at Carlisle and can't figure what makes it worth and additional $15,000.
I believe there may be substantial incentives from GM for those who don't cancel their 2018 orders, especially if GM starts receiving a lot of cancellations.
Personally, I got a good look at the Carbon 65 at Carlisle and can't figure what makes it worth and additional $15,000.
I believe there may be substantial incentives from GM for those who don't cancel their 2018 orders, especially if GM starts receiving a lot of cancellations.
10-12-2017, 12:05 PM
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10-12-2017, 12:41 PM
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10-12-2017, 01:26 PM
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I would not order a 19 until confirmation all colors are up and running in new paint shop.
10-12-2017, 07:14 PM
#30
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Not checking actual numbers but 2017 had less production than 2016 by about 1/2!
Now even less 2018's They will be sorta rare! This is good for resale prices making less new discounts should be less as well. Demand is pretty good for these cars in my book.
Now even less 2018's They will be sorta rare! This is good for resale prices making less new discounts should be less as well. Demand is pretty good for these cars in my book.
10-12-2017, 07:33 PM
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Unfortunately I have to say I am seriously considering a cancellation.
I just received a TPW of 12/11 on a 2018 Z06 carbon 65.
I'm aware there is sure to be a price increase but the 65 has an MSRP of nearly 105K and I'm able to get supplier pricing, so needless to say I would still get supplier on the 2019 as well. There are some pieces on the 65 that are not exactly something I would order if I wasn't forced to take it as part of the package, therefore I know I could spec a MY '19 to a very equivalent MSRP.
I really do like the carbon 65 package but I know I will be upset if I end up with an immediately out dated model due to an appearance/tech upgrade when, in my situation, I could get the most recent changes for a round about same price.
I really struggled with making the choice of automatic or manual transmission, ultimately it came down to the seven-speed manual because all the issues I have heard of about the A8, and the 2 problems I've witnessed first hand with one.
If the A10 is going to make its way into the 2019 that is where I would prefer to be, something is definitely up!
My head is all twisted up like a pretzel right now ( I know I know, first world problems, Right!?!)
Damn you GM...... My first ever Corvette or new car in general, buying experience is certainly more stressful than I had envisioned......
I just received a TPW of 12/11 on a 2018 Z06 carbon 65.
I'm aware there is sure to be a price increase but the 65 has an MSRP of nearly 105K and I'm able to get supplier pricing, so needless to say I would still get supplier on the 2019 as well. There are some pieces on the 65 that are not exactly something I would order if I wasn't forced to take it as part of the package, therefore I know I could spec a MY '19 to a very equivalent MSRP.
I really do like the carbon 65 package but I know I will be upset if I end up with an immediately out dated model due to an appearance/tech upgrade when, in my situation, I could get the most recent changes for a round about same price.
I really struggled with making the choice of automatic or manual transmission, ultimately it came down to the seven-speed manual because all the issues I have heard of about the A8, and the 2 problems I've witnessed first hand with one.
If the A10 is going to make its way into the 2019 that is where I would prefer to be, something is definitely up!
My head is all twisted up like a pretzel right now ( I know I know, first world problems, Right!?!)
Damn you GM...... My first ever Corvette or new car in general, buying experience is certainly more stressful than I had envisioned......
It is tough you have little devil on your shoulder telling you to get the M7!
Then later another little voice from the other side says no get the A8 it is the faster car. You try to feel good thinking about some paddle shifter thingy's ok!
Been there and bought a 2015 M7 but then went back and bought the 2017 A8. Totally different cars! Tough call glad I have both right now! Neither pick is bad both are different cars.
My M7 has comp seats 650 to the rear tire on 92 pump gas tuned with headers. PTB
Halltech and tric. Plus maybe the new 2.65 blower when it comes out.
The 2017 has just a aftermarket air filter and it is more luxury car feel with A8. More your date car.
10-12-2017, 07:44 PM
#32
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The Carbon 65's and the 2018's are not flying off the dealers lots and how much more will they be worth on the used market. Sales for last month were a little over 1500 cars according to Automotive News and how many are in inventory? Did GM know this production schedule all along since everyone assumed the 2018's would be produced until May or June. Great marketing for GM.
Discounts are not very big.
10-12-2017, 07:59 PM
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10-12-2017, 08:00 PM
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I'm really not in this either way since I bought a 2017 back in April but just wanted to add that if I were in your shoes Pat I'd stay put as well. There will be nothing different with the 2018 you have on order to the 2019 you'd replace the order with. (Unless of course youveanted the ZR1)
Also wanted to add that my dealer would never keep my deposit if I cancelled, they'd just apply it to the new order.
Your 2018 will be painted in the new paint shop. That's cool.
Also wanted to add that my dealer would never keep my deposit if I cancelled, they'd just apply it to the new order.
Your 2018 will be painted in the new paint shop. That's cool.
10-12-2017, 08:15 PM
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I'm not so sure that my car is going to get painted in the new shop though, if production starts on Nov 20th and they are phasing the colors in bit by bit, I'm not sure they will get to Torch Red by the first week of December. I'm hoping they do but it's definitely not the end of the world if they don't.
10-12-2017, 08:25 PM
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As a new member, this forum has been instrumental in guiding me to my new 2018 Z06 LZ3 order. From guiding me to the right dealer to helping me select the options......Thank You to all!
I placed my order with $2000 deposit in early September. I am now at 3000 with a TPW of 1-1-18. This news is somewhat upsetting, but I do not plan on canceling my order. This is not the dealers fault.....it is GM’s misstep. My only thought is at this point is why doesn’t GM skip the rest of 2018 production and go right to 2019 for all new orders upon factory startup? Honor the pricing for all orders in the system, include the upgrades, call them 2019’s and move forward. This would make a lot of people happy, avoid incentives for 2018 inventory and orders and ultimately create goodwill.
I placed my order with $2000 deposit in early September. I am now at 3000 with a TPW of 1-1-18. This news is somewhat upsetting, but I do not plan on canceling my order. This is not the dealers fault.....it is GM’s misstep. My only thought is at this point is why doesn’t GM skip the rest of 2018 production and go right to 2019 for all new orders upon factory startup? Honor the pricing for all orders in the system, include the upgrades, call them 2019’s and move forward. This would make a lot of people happy, avoid incentives for 2018 inventory and orders and ultimately create goodwill.
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10-12-2017, 08:37 PM
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I'm not so sure that my car is going to get painted in the new shop though, if production starts on Nov 20th and they are phasing the colors in bit by bit, I'm not sure they will get to Torch Red by the first week of December. I'm hoping they do but it's definitely not the end of the world if they don't.
http://www.corvettemuseum.org/2019-c...ion-announced/
Production at Bowling Green Assembly starts back up November 6, and at that time the ‘basics’ (Black, Arctic White, Torch Red, Corvette Racing Yellow) will begin rolling through the state-of-the-art paint shop. Tintcoats will follow the basics at a later date (Admiral Blue, Blade Silver, Cyber Matrix Gray, Long Beach Red, Sebring Orange and Watkins Glen Gray.
10-12-2017, 08:39 PM
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Because a car maker legally cannot release a 2019 model year vehicle until after Jan 1st, 2018. So they would have to wait to start up production for an extra couple of months which isn't good for business.
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10-12-2017, 08:42 PM
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As a new member, this forum has been instrumental in guiding me to my new 2018 Z06 LZ3 order. From guiding me to the right dealer to helping me select the options......Thank You to all!
I placed my order with $2000 deposit in early September. I am now at 3000 with a TPW of 1-1-18. This news is somewhat upsetting, but I do not plan on canceling my order. This is not the dealers fault.....it is GM’s misstep. My only thought is at this point is why doesn’t GM skip the rest of 2018 production and go right to 2019 for all new orders upon factory startup? Honor the pricing for all orders in the system, include the upgrades, call them 2019’s and move forward. This would make a lot of people happy, avoid incentives for 2018 inventory and orders and ultimately create goodwill.
I placed my order with $2000 deposit in early September. I am now at 3000 with a TPW of 1-1-18. This news is somewhat upsetting, but I do not plan on canceling my order. This is not the dealers fault.....it is GM’s misstep. My only thought is at this point is why doesn’t GM skip the rest of 2018 production and go right to 2019 for all new orders upon factory startup? Honor the pricing for all orders in the system, include the upgrades, call them 2019’s and move forward. This would make a lot of people happy, avoid incentives for 2018 inventory and orders and ultimately create goodwill.