Everyone talking about a ME Vette, but are their those that like a FE Vette BETTER?
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Mine's auto, her's is manual. I have zero doubt that the Shelby would leave the C7 behind in a drag race with a good driver in both. When it comes to curves I'd catch it. They're both great fun in different ways.
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^^^My wife does not care about cars at all as long as it is a smaller SUV and safe. Easy to please her.
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As mentioned, no means for a comparison, however, I’d jump to a ME Vette is a heartbeat... all things being consider. Right now I’m looking more forward to new GT500. These are exciting times for car enthusiasts. Enjoy
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I agree the Aston Martin DB11 convertible is among the most beautiful cars....still....I also admire the Ferrari 488 s too.
Dave no ones feelings are hurt. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Enjoy that beautiful convertible z06...it's a great car too..
Many of us have the ability to admire many different types of fantastic sports cars.
You might get your wish as rumored are both a front engine corvette like yours and a rear mid engine corvette as we have seen recently in spy photos.
All I can do is suggest that as beautiful and amazing as your c7 z06 is...at this stage of development many of the c7 corvette enthusiasts said exactly the same things as you are saying about the next generation corvette which you so dearly love...
Crazy but passionate enthusiasts often dislike change but yet it's something we clearly crave in so many aspects of our loves.
I believe and it's just my opinion the next generation corvette will continue the several decade tradition that corvette engineers have held onto which is...improving the breed with each new generation.
I'm sure the c8 will continue that tradition,
Dave no ones feelings are hurt. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Enjoy that beautiful convertible z06...it's a great car too..
Many of us have the ability to admire many different types of fantastic sports cars.
You might get your wish as rumored are both a front engine corvette like yours and a rear mid engine corvette as we have seen recently in spy photos.
All I can do is suggest that as beautiful and amazing as your c7 z06 is...at this stage of development many of the c7 corvette enthusiasts said exactly the same things as you are saying about the next generation corvette which you so dearly love...
Crazy but passionate enthusiasts often dislike change but yet it's something we clearly crave in so many aspects of our loves.
I believe and it's just my opinion the next generation corvette will continue the several decade tradition that corvette engineers have held onto which is...improving the breed with each new generation.
I'm sure the c8 will continue that tradition,
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Nice BMW Dave. My wife's DD when it's cold or snowy is a new Explorer Sport, which has the ecoboost twin turbo engine, which is no slouch either.
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Corvette is expanding the brand, not changing it. The FR (front engine, rear drive is the appropriate term anacronym) Corvette will remain in the lineup as the basis of Corvette, while the MR (Mid-engine, rear drive) car will supplement the lineup.
Keep in mind, GM is not expanding Bowling Green to double it's size, to build the same 30-35k units per year, working an 8hr shift. Bowling Green could build an MR car in the same capacity without expanding the plant at all. This is the key indicator that GM is predicting more volume, and a line that requires a shared construction platform...a modular platform that uses shared parts, shared paint shop, but results in different vehicles at the end.
I posted a link to the article that went into detail about this, as the future of GM. The Mid-Engine "Corvette" is the true HALO, not of Corvette necessarily, but of GM's new approach to how it will build all it's vehicles in the future. GM will divide all cars in it's lineup into 3 modular sections, "Front engine bay", "Passenger compartment", "Rear storage". Meaning, the three sections, from a CAD perspective, can have pre-engineered interfaces, to allow a passenger compartment to have different modular front and rear sections attached, saving engineering development, etc.
Don't look at the car, look at other brands, and you can understand what is happening here. Mclaren, BMW, Porsche...they are all in some phase of this evolution...one chassis, an array of cars resulting from that singular core piece of engineering. BMW can build an SUV, a 4 door or coupe off of it's current modular platforms.
Gm would be foolish to dispose of an FR Corvette which provides great storage, performance, and traditional GT style, and replace it entirely with an MR which often has different ingress/egress challenges, less available cubic ft of space, different driver challenges that doesnt' really work with it's customer base.
Double the plant size, entire change of the production line design, to build both the 2019 production Corvettes AND the MR platform that is coming...all at the same time.
Keep in mind, GM is not expanding Bowling Green to double it's size, to build the same 30-35k units per year, working an 8hr shift. Bowling Green could build an MR car in the same capacity without expanding the plant at all. This is the key indicator that GM is predicting more volume, and a line that requires a shared construction platform...a modular platform that uses shared parts, shared paint shop, but results in different vehicles at the end.
I posted a link to the article that went into detail about this, as the future of GM. The Mid-Engine "Corvette" is the true HALO, not of Corvette necessarily, but of GM's new approach to how it will build all it's vehicles in the future. GM will divide all cars in it's lineup into 3 modular sections, "Front engine bay", "Passenger compartment", "Rear storage". Meaning, the three sections, from a CAD perspective, can have pre-engineered interfaces, to allow a passenger compartment to have different modular front and rear sections attached, saving engineering development, etc.
Don't look at the car, look at other brands, and you can understand what is happening here. Mclaren, BMW, Porsche...they are all in some phase of this evolution...one chassis, an array of cars resulting from that singular core piece of engineering. BMW can build an SUV, a 4 door or coupe off of it's current modular platforms.
Gm would be foolish to dispose of an FR Corvette which provides great storage, performance, and traditional GT style, and replace it entirely with an MR which often has different ingress/egress challenges, less available cubic ft of space, different driver challenges that doesnt' really work with it's customer base.
Double the plant size, entire change of the production line design, to build both the 2019 production Corvettes AND the MR platform that is coming...all at the same time.
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I agree the Aston Martin DB11 convertible is among the most beautiful cars....still....I also admire the Ferrari 488 s too.
Dave no ones feelings are hurt. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Enjoy that beautiful convertible z06...it's a great car too..
Many of us have the ability to admire many different types of fantastic sports cars.
You might get your wish as rumored are both a front engine corvette like yours and a rear mid engine corvette as we have seen recently in spy photos.
All I can do is suggest that as beautiful and amazing as your c7 z06 is...at this stage of development many of the c7 corvette enthusiasts said exactly the same things as you are saying about the next generation corvette which you so dearly love...
Crazy but passionate enthusiasts often dislike change but yet it's something we clearly crave in so many aspects of our loves.
I believe and it's just my opinion the next generation corvette will continue the several decade tradition that corvette engineers have held onto which is...improving the breed with each new generation.
I'm sure the c8 will continue that tradition,
Dave no ones feelings are hurt. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Enjoy that beautiful convertible z06...it's a great car too..
Many of us have the ability to admire many different types of fantastic sports cars.
You might get your wish as rumored are both a front engine corvette like yours and a rear mid engine corvette as we have seen recently in spy photos.
All I can do is suggest that as beautiful and amazing as your c7 z06 is...at this stage of development many of the c7 corvette enthusiasts said exactly the same things as you are saying about the next generation corvette which you so dearly love...
Crazy but passionate enthusiasts often dislike change but yet it's something we clearly crave in so many aspects of our loves.
I believe and it's just my opinion the next generation corvette will continue the several decade tradition that corvette engineers have held onto which is...improving the breed with each new generation.
I'm sure the c8 will continue that tradition,
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I'd take any one of these over any number of Mustangs or Camaros:
Judging the appearance of the ME based on the pictures of the heavily camo'ed car recently seen in the McDonald's is folly. The final product will look much different. I hope to be able to buy one.
Judging the appearance of the ME based on the pictures of the heavily camo'ed car recently seen in the McDonald's is folly. The final product will look much different. I hope to be able to buy one.
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All i know is, Its a very good time to be a car guy. Between Ford putting a 8250 RPM FPC motor in the GT350 and the ZL1 1LE track monster and the now official mid engine Corvette. American brands really are going all in.
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Those are what Id consider true exotics, if I could afford one (not!) and it actually had a stick, in a hot second. In general no dont like em.
Whats worse is a mfr trying to do the "me too" thing. The C7s do some fantastic stuff but just dont strike the same chord as say whats in the pics above. No way.
People will still buy them and the rest of the crowd will complain about everything..and quietly buy themselves lol.
It will be exciting to see what Chevy does they certainly have the technology
Whats worse is a mfr trying to do the "me too" thing. The C7s do some fantastic stuff but just dont strike the same chord as say whats in the pics above. No way.
People will still buy them and the rest of the crowd will complain about everything..and quietly buy themselves lol.
It will be exciting to see what Chevy does they certainly have the technology
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Zymurgy, I find those cars ugly and would rather drive one of these Camaro VERTS any day but that's JMHO and we all have opinions and I respect yours.
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Here's what I want, certainly over any Camaro or Mustang. I've seriously looked at them when I'm in England on business. Just can't quite justify the price living in Colorado and nowhere near a dealer. When we retire to Florida in a couple of years one might just follow me home.
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how many of you that are hating mid engine have every really driven a mid engine car?
If you dont care about track and performance, then why do you care where the engine is?
If you do actually push your car, why the hell would you want FE over ME?
If you dont care about track and performance, then why do you care where the engine is?
If you do actually push your car, why the hell would you want FE over ME?
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steve i found one for you to buy me in red just send me a bank check and i will get one for the other side of the garage like you and put the bmw outside in the driveway! :d honestly i would rather have the shelby than all the me exotics i listed even the porsche 911 vert!
ttt
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Maybe in their effort to be more Porsche like, they'll offer an awd model,
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I would love a mid-engine Vette (or Zora or whatever they’ll call it), but I think they will keep the cost prohibitively high to avoid losing front-engine corvette sales. I think they will continue to offer both.
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What I know, though, my 29-year-old Ferrari out handles my three year old C7 and that's a simple fact.
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C6 guy will always pooh pooh the next imminent generation C. Usually because C6 guy doesn't want you to have a new, vastly improved better C than he has.
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If you do actually push your car, why the hell would you want FE over ME?
Please..bring back the hidden headlights.
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