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Old 10-15-2017, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxpowers
This is interesting. While most say the C7 is FE because the motor is in front of the cabin, you raise an interesting point that it is mid-way between the axles.
It is widely acknowledged that the current Corvette is a front mid-engine car. The new version would be a rear mid-engine car.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by village idiot
There is no possible way it's outhandling a C7 (pure, 100% handling). It doesn't have the tires, the mag ride, the aero, the chassis, etc. This notion that the 328 has a stiffer chassis and suspension is nonsense. The only reason it doesn't have any body roll is because it's not pulling any real lateral g's.

Try comparing it to even a Z51, or better yet, something with a Z07 package. Power aside, that car isn't coming close. FFS, modern Ferraris can barely keep up with a Z07 package C7 in handling.
I did not say the 328 has a stiffer chassis than the C7. I said my GTB has a stiffer chassis from the GTS.

And, I already addressed that my car did NOT have Z51 or other versions...

FWIW - I have more than 700,000 miles in Corvettes.... 300K miles in P-cars.... I have but 40K miles in my 328... which is one hell of a lot more miles than most Ferrari drivers even have on their cars, much less behind the wheel.

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Old 10-15-2017, 01:52 PM
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With a ME design, they can do more with the engine, such as DOHC. The current FE is limited to a single camshaft buried in the engine with pushrods because of the lower hood profile.

The FE is still very capable in the handling department because the design has a transaxle in the rear. This gives almost 50-50 weight balance. Most of us will never be able to drive a C7 any where near its potential.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:55 PM
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I need to be able to put a 26" rollerboard suitcase in the Corvette. Would have to see if the storage space was adequate on the ME. One of the great things about the C6 & C7 was the amount of usable storage space.
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Joe, what Corvettes have you owned?
1977 L82 A3. Bought new 12/'76 Wahoo, NE:
Walked in the Chevy dealer, test drove it, agreed on price, paid cash and drove it out 1 hour later.
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
1977 L82 A3. Bought new 12/'76 Wahoo, NE:

Still got that much hair?


Looks to be red? I used to have red hair too! Now it's gray and mostly gone!

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That's more hair on your head than I have on my whole body! Damn showoff!

In my "ute" I had it long and wavy. Now its mostly gone and hard to find! I say all my brains I matured into actual thinking cells must have pushed it out roots and all?

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Old 10-15-2017, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mdshaffer
With a ME design, they can do more with the engine, such as DOHC. The current FE is limited to a single camshaft buried in the engine with pushrods because of the lower hood profile.

The FE is still very capable in the handling department because the design has a transaxle in the rear. This gives almost 50-50 weight balance. Most of us will never be able to drive a C7 any where near its potential.
big difference between having the weight merely balanced and being centralized. Centralized is far more important.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylars
This is STILL an ugly car. IMO..The ME Cx looks too similar to the NSX.
First how can you tell what the ME car even looks like??? Second I doubt they’d copy very, very dated styling.
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Originally Posted by Jaylars
This is STILL an ugly car. IMO..The ME Cx looks too similar to the NSX.
(conveniently ignores countless beautiful mid engine cars)
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:49 PM
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^Hey, back in 91, not many true automotive enthusiasts would have considered that ugly. While chrome bumpers, sim tops, drum brakes and "wire-spoke" hubcaps were still a thing, that was a hell of an accomplishment for Acura and a leap for the general industry.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:51 PM
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Probably a good idea to see what the final car looks like before passing judgment. Unless you are just trying to feel better about your front mid engine car
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Another ugly mid-engine for your viewing pleasure.


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Old 10-15-2017, 05:13 PM
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Once again proving the best looking wheels are the most open wheels.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Those are what Id consider true exotics, if I could afford one (not!) and it actually had a stick, in a hot second. In general no dont like em.

Whats worse is a mfr trying to do the "me too" thing. The C7s do some fantastic stuff but just dont strike the same chord as say whats in the pics above. No way.
Hmmm




Ferrari F12





Corvette Z06
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Originally Posted by village idiot
how many of you that are hating mid engine have every really driven a mid engine car?

If you dont care about track and performance, then why do you care where the engine is?
If you do actually push your car, why the hell would you want FE over ME?
Being mid-engined, and with more HP, didn’t seem to allow the new $200K Acura NSX to beat the $92K Grand Sport. If mid-engine is so obviously superior how does that happen?

Originally Posted by 4thC4at60
Porsche and Ferrari disagree with you, but what do they know?

What I know, though, my 29-year-old Ferrari out handles my three year old C7 and that's a simple fact.
That seems exceedingly unlikely, since the Corvettes beatup many modern mid-engine cars on track.

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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Hmmm




Ferrari F12





Corvette Z06

No contest, I'll take the Ferrari.

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Originally Posted by dmaxx3500
no,rear engine is a 911 Porsche[eng behind rear axle]

mid engine is engine in front of rear axle [lambo countach,ferrari 488]
Exactly correct. Getting tired of people on the forum that don't know a mid-engine car from a rear engine car.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Being mid-engined, and with more HP, didn’t seem to allow the new $200K Acura NSX to beat the $92K Grand Sport. If mid-engine is so obviously superior how does that happen?



That seems exceedingly unlikely, since the Corvettes beatup many modern mid-engine cars on track.
I agree. And what about the 577 HP front engine AMG GT R that did the Ring in 7:10 that a Grand Sport can't get near, much less the NSX.

Don't be giving the front engine sports car a 10 count just yet......
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
I don't care where the engine is! I drive the car as a "Travel" car and go any place I feel like driving. My wife travels with me. If I can't put a couple of suitcases in it and some other essential "stuff" to make a trip, then I don't want the car not matter how great it performs.

If I were racing, then the converse would be true. I don't need to load stuff in the car and carry a passenger so were the ME to perform the best, then I'd get one.

I highly doubt GM is designing the Corvette to not be able to be a touring car. If they are, they're chasing off customers.

Elmer
Rear mid engine cars often have a front trunk and a rear trunk. I've always found soft luggage can help too...

I wouldn't worry as GM tends to scrutinize the details when it comes to corvettes...

I'm confident the new rear mid engine vehicle will knock our socks off...

Cadillac is footing a large portion of the build plus a good portion of the original and initial research and develpment work were done by "old" GM..
Pre bamckrupcy and the costs were wiped away...

I'm kidding of course but with all that the c8 could retail less than the current car...or GM s profit per vehicle could be even greater...


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