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Old 10-15-2017, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Supersonic 427
Really don't know why GM is coming out with the '19 MY 6 months early. Maybe this is the C7 swan song. Introduce the ZR1 and extend the last year of the C7 in order to bring out the C8 (Mid Engine as a 2020 model)
That sounds about right.
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It's not all bad news, I'm hoping it benefits some people like me who are in the market for a new corvette in the early spring time
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Default add in the fact.........

.......the 2018 is essentially unchanged....
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I've been thinking about why GM is changing the MY earlier than they normally do and here is what I strongly believe...

If the ZR1 was initially set to be a 2018 Corvette, and if it was significantly delayed to the point that they decided to offer it as a 2019 Corvette, then the early start to the 2019 MY makes sense. Furthermore, if the order guide is going to be available on November 20, it is certainly feasible that we'll see the ZR1 reveal shortly before the order guide becomes available.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Looks to me as if GM has done a great job of whittling down the supply that existed 4-5 months ago. The current supply is less than 1/3 year's production capacity or about a 4 month supply. Not very long ago, it was much bigger than that.

They overbuilt to plan for the lengthy plant shutdown, and now they're back to pretty normal in-stock numbers.
You are right on the money!
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Originally Posted by dvilin
I think GM has a business plan and they know what they are doing. The few Corvette owners on this forum may not like it but in reality it matters not one bit to GM.
You have it figured you.
Old 10-15-2017, 08:15 PM
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As for me, I'll just drive my new '18 and wonder why. But, really, who cares? What difference does it make?

If I were looking for an investment it sure wouldn't be "new" Vettes of any ilk. The moment they move off the lot, not matter what model, they're just so many more used cars.
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Some seem to feel that their C7's resale value is being diminished with the onslaught of scores of C7s yet to be built, and flooding the market. Your C7's resale value will automatically diminish with the introduction of the C8/ME anyway. Nothing to worry about.
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30% may be reaching, but 25% is realistic. In April 2016, GM offered 15% on top of whatever deal you could find on any leftover 2015. 15% + 10% off (10% off from the dealer is pretty normal) = the 25% I got off of mine. They were disappearing off the lots as fast as I could call, but I got my new one for 25% off. I could see them doing that 15% off again. They did it a few months ago on new Silverado's, but that may have been because of the vibration issues those trucks have.
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fun watching this thread struggle to become a tax conversation.
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I think it's funny that people are calling the ME Whatever, a C8 Corvette. GM announced that the FE Corvette will still be produced so do you think that they're going to the ME Whatever a "Corvette" as well? There's just as much chance as them calling it a Camaro.

Hey what kind of car did you buy?
A Corvette.
Ummmm, the front engine or mid engine?

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I believe the 2019 MY is the last of the FEs.
NOW is the time to pick up greatest FE Corvette ever made.
No bitching when they are all gone...ya all were warned.
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Originally Posted by jagamajajaran
I've been thinking about why GM is changing the MY earlier than they normally do and here is what I strongly believe...

If the ZR1 was initially set to be a 2018 Corvette, and if it was significantly delayed to the point that they decided to offer it as a 2019 Corvette, then the early start to the 2019 MY makes sense. Furthermore, if the order guide is going to be available on November 20, it is certainly feasible that we'll see the ZR1 reveal shortly before the order guide becomes available.
I agree with you. It would explain the early 2019 model year release.
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I believe the 2019 MY is the last of the FEs.
I DON’T. You have not seen the last of the C7.
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Originally Posted by Corvette ED
What is GM thinking? I just did a search on cars.com to find how many new Corvettes are sitting unsold?

2016 295 Cars
2017 6,757 Cars
2018 2,779 Cars

GM is going to have to put some kind of big rebates to move these cars? I think it's going to take at least 20% or more off to move this inventory? If there isn't any big discounts why would anybody buy a 2016-2018 when you could just get a 2019 for very close to the same price?

The Top 10 Corvette dealers current new Corvette inventory

1. Kerbeck 179
2. McMulkin 206
3. Criswell 115
4. Les Sanford 166
5. Bomnin 82
6. Matick 90
7. Hendrick 105
8. Classic 74
9. Hendrick 62
10. Van 27

When these guys start turning down allocations then GM will have to do something to move cars sitting!!!
One word.

ZR1.

The ZR1 will more than likely go on sale in February (by April at the latest). The reason for moving all the cars to 2019, is that GM has decided to NOT release the ZR1 as a 2018 for a few months just to roll it to a 2019.
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Originally Posted by Steve Carter
I DON’T. You have not seen the last of the C7.
Correct. The C7 will last until MY 2020 at least. Probably 2021 if not 2022 (MY not CY).

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Old 10-16-2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cnd Chance
No One can complain about someone’s loopholes/deductions if there are NO loopholes/deductions. This is the simplest way to fix it, and just think NO lobbyists!!!
You're going to give up mortgage, state tax, and medical deductions without complaint?
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Originally Posted by Supersonic 427
Really don't know why GM is coming out with the '19 MY 6 months early. Maybe this is the C7 swan song. Introduce the ZR1 and extend the last year of the C7 in order to bring out the C8 (Mid Engine as a 2020 model)
C8 aside, this is really the only glaring purpose of the premature model release date; to get the ZR1 out there.

I forgot who mentioned this, but someone said they could've just stopped 2017 production when the plant closed in June, reopen in November (or whenever), and started the 2018 line under a shortened season until June/July of 2018 as normal. Yet they didn't do this and will come out with a prolonged model year for 2019 (while completely eviscerating 2018).

Seems like they want to get all they can out of ZR1, and 18 months would pretty much fit the bill. Of course, that's all depending if everything goes according to plan. I'm suspecting that the ZR1 is not a one year only car, and 18-months gives them some wiggle room in case they want to expedite the next generation for 2019/2020MY or give it one more model year to ensure a quality product.

As far as the discounts, I'm like "whatever" on that. If they offer them, fine. If not, negotiations can be made...or you can take your business elsewhere. I just don't think dealerships will be handing out Clearance Clarence deals left and right like UNO Cards and expect as such when budgeting for same.
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I would if the lower tax equated to my tax bill - deductions under the current system... Why have the current complexity ?

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