To buy or not to buy, 3 owners
10-19-2017, 06:48 PM
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OP, my two previous cars to my current Corvette were owned by multiple owners. The first one was an 03 C5 Z06 that was purchased from Kerbeck by a guy who used it to commute from Newark, DE to NC on a weekly basis. Over a 6 month period he put 18K miles on the car. The second owner had the car for 2 months and put 200 miles on it and then decided to sell the car and buy a 61 that needed restoring. That car was great. I kept it for 6 years put another 25K miles on it (and a lot of track miles) and sold it when C6Zs started running away from me on the track. My C6Z was a two owner car as well. The first owner had the car for 2 months and traded it. The second owner had the car for 11 months and was selling because he was being transferred to a location where he couldn't take the Vette. That car was great as well and I kept it for 6 years before trading it for the C7Z.
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
10-19-2017, 07:15 PM
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OP, my two previous cars to my current Corvette were owned by multiple owners. The first one was an 03 C5 Z06 that was purchased from Kerbeck by a guy who used it to commute from Newark, DE to NC on a weekly basis. Over a 6 month period he put 18K miles on the car. The second owner had the car for 2 months and put 200 miles on it and then decided to sell the car and buy a 61 that needed restoring. That car was great. I kept it for 6 years put another 25K miles on it (and a lot of track miles) and sold it when C6Zs started running away from me on the track. My C6Z was a two owner car as well. The first owner had the car for 2 months and traded it. The second owner had the car for 11 months and was selling because he was being transferred to a location where he couldn't take the Vette. That car was great as well and I kept it for 6 years before trading it for the C7Z.
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
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10-19-2017, 08:11 PM
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OP, my two previous cars to my current Corvette were owned by multiple owners. The first one was an 03 C5 Z06 that was purchased from Kerbeck by a guy who used it to commute from Newark, DE to NC on a weekly basis. Over a 6 month period he put 18K miles on the car. The second owner had the car for 2 months and put 200 miles on it and then decided to sell the car and buy a 61 that needed restoring. That car was great. I kept it for 6 years put another 25K miles on it (and a lot of track miles) and sold it when C6Zs started running away from me on the track. My C6Z was a two owner car as well. The first owner had the car for 2 months and traded it. The second owner had the car for 11 months and was selling because he was being transferred to a location where he couldn't take the Vette. That car was great as well and I kept it for 6 years before trading it for the C7Z.
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
For the ordinary guy it's better to make a purchase that has a manufacturer's warranty.
This is one reason why I mentioned buying a new vehicle.
That, plus the wonderful feeling of it being just yours...your baby...unsullied, so to speak.
10-19-2017, 08:28 PM
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OP, my two previous cars to my current Corvette were owned by multiple owners. The first one was an 03 C5 Z06 that was purchased from Kerbeck by a guy who used it to commute from Newark, DE to NC on a weekly basis. Over a 6 month period he put 18K miles on the car. The second owner had the car for 2 months and put 200 miles on it and then decided to sell the car and buy a 61 that needed restoring. That car was great. I kept it for 6 years put another 25K miles on it (and a lot of track miles) and sold it when C6Zs started running away from me on the track. My C6Z was a two owner car as well. The first owner had the car for 2 months and traded it. The second owner had the car for 11 months and was selling because he was being transferred to a location where he couldn't take the Vette. That car was great as well and I kept it for 6 years before trading it for the C7Z.
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
Multiple owners doesn't mean a thing. There are many reasons a car has multiple owners and being a lemon is a rare reason. The reason it is a rare reason is because what one person perceives as a problem isn't even a thought for another person. Just read the threads of people who turn their cars in as a lemon and judge for yourself.
Bill
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10-20-2017, 12:15 AM
#65
Aaaaaand PROBLEM SOLVED...
So, what I was interested in was really the warranty and non cop magnet color. I tortured myself all day because deep down that 3 owner car freaked me out, and I was supposed to meet them tomorrow morning. I lucked out tonight on the way home from work. I found a cyber metallic Z51 with saddle brown 3LT ONE owner (a female I think based on the height of the hud). Clean carfax, no motor shake, no funny bumper, I like the saddle brown almost as much as the red... I talked them down on the price and they offered to chevy certify it. They even gave me an extra 1k on my trade. Very happy. Now I'm part of the club.
10-20-2017, 12:32 AM
#66
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The car could be a lemon, it's very strange that the two last owners keep the car for just 3 months. Look elsewhere there are many secondhand Corvettes available. I would first look for a GM certified and would purchase an extended warranty for peace of mind. I was on your shoes, I left go of my first option that had very low miles but three owners, and after a test drive noticed several things wrong, afterwards I found my perfect '14 Corvette. No regrets!
10-20-2017, 12:47 AM
#67
Welcome to the Permagrin club. FWIW it's cyber gray. Saddle brown is not a C7 color. You must mean brownstone, if not, then kalahari. What do you mean they offered it to Chevy to certify it? They sold it to a dealer, dealer certified it, then sold it to you? How much more did u pay to have it certified. Then you paid state sales tax. Would it have been cheaper to purchase it privately and pay the sales tax base on a table they use as opposed to a certain percentage? In Illinois there is a cap on the sales tax on used vehicles purchased privately at $1250 I believe.
10-20-2017, 09:15 AM
#68
All of this discussion could have been cured before passage of the Privacy Act. This Privacy act should have been called: Screw the Consumer Act. It Protects the dealers from having You the consumer calling and speaking to the Other consumer. Get to the truth. Now you have to take the word from a Used car dealer. Oh great.
Sprouting from this secretive world: Carfax. Carfax is great but wouldn't it be even greater to speak to the previous owners? Yes speaking to the previous owners you get the real poop. Someone with no skin in the game. Why he dumped/traded the car. Again, now we are stuck taking a Used car dealers word. Dang.
Yes, I know, everyone is scared of the internet boogeyman, and the spooks trying to hack your life. All I want is the ability to speak to the previous owner.
Who is being hurt?
I asked one of these (trustworthy) used car dealers to ask the previous owner to call me. I gave the dealer permission to give the previous owner my phone number. Nope.
We can't do that.
Who is being protected here? The dealer. He can lie his butt off and you will never know.
The car was owned by a little old lady. Drove it on Nice Sunday afternoons.
Sure.
At least buying here, directly from the owner, you get the opportunity to speak to the previous owner.
Buyer beware.
By the way, Autocheck was available to view a corvette's previous life I was interested in. No Accidents listed. I went to my local Chevrolet dealer and he did a Carfax, guess what, an accident was listed. Again, if I could speak to the previous owner, I could have gotten all the good and bad upfront. Maybe the accident was a scratch. I don't know.
If Carfax wants to improve, then give us details of the repairs. Was it a scratch or a panel change out.
Someone needs to go after this screw the consumer act. You'll be fighting lobbyists from Carfax, Autocheck, the big 3 car manufactures, etc.
Sorry for the rant.
Drive Safe
Sprouting from this secretive world: Carfax. Carfax is great but wouldn't it be even greater to speak to the previous owners? Yes speaking to the previous owners you get the real poop. Someone with no skin in the game. Why he dumped/traded the car. Again, now we are stuck taking a Used car dealers word. Dang.
Yes, I know, everyone is scared of the internet boogeyman, and the spooks trying to hack your life. All I want is the ability to speak to the previous owner.
Who is being hurt?
I asked one of these (trustworthy) used car dealers to ask the previous owner to call me. I gave the dealer permission to give the previous owner my phone number. Nope.
We can't do that.
Who is being protected here? The dealer. He can lie his butt off and you will never know.
The car was owned by a little old lady. Drove it on Nice Sunday afternoons.
Sure.
At least buying here, directly from the owner, you get the opportunity to speak to the previous owner.
Buyer beware.
By the way, Autocheck was available to view a corvette's previous life I was interested in. No Accidents listed. I went to my local Chevrolet dealer and he did a Carfax, guess what, an accident was listed. Again, if I could speak to the previous owner, I could have gotten all the good and bad upfront. Maybe the accident was a scratch. I don't know.
If Carfax wants to improve, then give us details of the repairs. Was it a scratch or a panel change out.
Someone needs to go after this screw the consumer act. You'll be fighting lobbyists from Carfax, Autocheck, the big 3 car manufactures, etc.
Sorry for the rant.
Drive Safe
Last edited by vettnut; 10-20-2017 at 09:25 AM.
10-20-2017, 09:53 AM
#69
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When I set up OnStar on my 16, the password for the WiFi Hotspot was the previous owner's phone number. I called him, and got a brief history on the car. Granted, it was after the purchase, but it confirmed what the dealer told me about the previous owner...
10-21-2017, 01:34 AM
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weird that it took four C7’s to determine it’s not he Car for you. Seems like a massive Contradiction or perhaps trolling. After one or benefit of doubt two but four, really? Just saying!
10-21-2017, 08:44 AM
#72
Racing yellow, 16 z51 everywhere a panel touched another panel, paint chipping, had the entire car painted, clicking in brakes, replaced all front braking parts 3 times, bad vibration in car on highway
Laguna Blue 16 z51 tranny broke, twice, was replaced, twice.
Current car, 18 grand sport, has 2k miles on it, vibration on highway, brakes clicking. Can’t fix the problem in talks now with GM on buy back.
All with below 10k miles . All never abused, all just fall apart.
I wish you to buy one of my old turds. Good luck, troll. Lol
10-21-2017, 09:07 AM
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White 16 base model had for 2weeks, tranny blew
Racing yellow, 16 z51 everywhere a panel touched another panel, paint chipping, had the entire car painted, clicking in brakes, replaced all front braking parts 3 times, bad vibration in car on highway
Laguna Blue 16 z51 tranny broke, twice, was replaced, twice.
Current car, 18 grand sport, has 2k miles on it, vibration on highway, brakes clicking. Can’t fix the problem in talks now with GM on buy back.
All with below 10k miles . All never abused, all just fall apart.
I wish you to buy one of my old turds. Good luck, troll. Lol
Racing yellow, 16 z51 everywhere a panel touched another panel, paint chipping, had the entire car painted, clicking in brakes, replaced all front braking parts 3 times, bad vibration in car on highway
Laguna Blue 16 z51 tranny broke, twice, was replaced, twice.
Current car, 18 grand sport, has 2k miles on it, vibration on highway, brakes clicking. Can’t fix the problem in talks now with GM on buy back.
All with below 10k miles . All never abused, all just fall apart.
I wish you to buy one of my old turds. Good luck, troll. Lol
10-21-2017, 11:18 AM
#74
Wow! I Apologize as it sounds to unbelievable that one person can have such bad luck. Yikes! Good Luck! Perhaps let someone else buy the 5th one and then turn it over to you and break the bad luck cycle or maybe GM should give you a car out of LOYALTY in that you keep trying.... I hope all works out well for you! BTW, all are very beautiful cars!