Corvette ownership. A long time owner's view
#101
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So what we have going on right now are two different circle jerks. It's going to be a huge mess to clean up when they are over. I feel sorry for the forum cleaning service.
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2. Convertibles: This one is near and dear to me because all 5 of my Corvettes have been convertibles. There is some kind of macho thing going on here that's really laughable. Since one can't track a convertible, these tough guys consider the convertible a poser car. Never mind the fact that probably 95% of these keyboard warriors DON'T track their coupes (assuming they even OWN a Corvette rather than a Civic with a rear wing).
4. Manual verses automatic: This is a great one. Basically, REAL men buy manuals, waxers buy autos. Of course, that's patently WRONG but what the hell. All Ferraris since 2011 have been automatics, BTW. Ditto McLaren, but they don't count because they're DCT's. Pretty sure if a transmission will shift itself, regardless of design, it's an AUTOMATIC.
4. Manual verses automatic: This is a great one. Basically, REAL men buy manuals, waxers buy autos. Of course, that's patently WRONG but what the hell. All Ferraris since 2011 have been automatics, BTW. Ditto McLaren, but they don't count because they're DCT's. Pretty sure if a transmission will shift itself, regardless of design, it's an AUTOMATIC.
Manual vs. auto is a tough one. I love banging gears and came from the old school mindset that the manual IS faster. I didn't even consider an auto when I bought my C7, it HAD to be a stick.
Call me jealous that you got the faster option. I just like rowing gears. I grew up in the mindset that a real sports car should have 3 pedals. It is getting to where manuals are the minority and may soon become extinct. I wouldn't bash anyone for buying the auto, or suffer a superiority complex over it.
#103
To the OP: why anyone is so concerned about what gets posted on Internet forums like this one always baffles me. First off, your car is beautiful. Second, I had chrome wheels on my first Corvette (a 2007 C6 I purchased nearly 3 years ago), I loved them. I was going to put chrome wheels on my 2017 C7 but it came with the black wheels and I've grown to love the black on red look of the car.
The first thing you have to realize is this- on one very basic level sports car ownership by men is a giant dick measuring contest and that pervades internet discussion forums of all sorts, but particularly sports cars. So take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt. And by all means, buy and drive the car you want.
Who CARES? I mean I could give a flying fark what anybody thinks of me, my car, etc. WhatEVER.
Carry on boys.
The first thing you have to realize is this- on one very basic level sports car ownership by men is a giant dick measuring contest and that pervades internet discussion forums of all sorts, but particularly sports cars. So take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt. And by all means, buy and drive the car you want.
Who CARES? I mean I could give a flying fark what anybody thinks of me, my car, etc. WhatEVER.
Carry on boys.
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#104
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I agree with who cares...to a point.
But, I am sad that this small group feels the need to turn everything into some internet big dick contest when we should just enjoy the car and the time in it.
In the end, I felt the need to write this manifesto. It was a RE-action on my part, not an ACtion. Most got it, a few didn't (but they never do....circle jerk, really?) because they KNOW they behaved badly, and can't muster the human skills to admit it and act like an adult. So, they attempt lame comedy to compensate for their insecurity.
I'm not willing to excuse bad behavior by professing thick skin. That's why bad behavior continues, unabated. If more folks man up and call someone acting like DB out, maybe, just maybe, they will grow up and see that this forum will be a LOT more enjoyable without the BS, which serves ZERO purpose.
But, I am sad that this small group feels the need to turn everything into some internet big dick contest when we should just enjoy the car and the time in it.
In the end, I felt the need to write this manifesto. It was a RE-action on my part, not an ACtion. Most got it, a few didn't (but they never do....circle jerk, really?) because they KNOW they behaved badly, and can't muster the human skills to admit it and act like an adult. So, they attempt lame comedy to compensate for their insecurity.
I'm not willing to excuse bad behavior by professing thick skin. That's why bad behavior continues, unabated. If more folks man up and call someone acting like DB out, maybe, just maybe, they will grow up and see that this forum will be a LOT more enjoyable without the BS, which serves ZERO purpose.
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This thread did give me a couple more names to add to my ignore list.
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Amen to that
Great post. I too am astonished with how much bitching & whining goes on. It seems like 80% of the posts are people who want to wallow as victims. I owned two Corvettes and I couldn't be happier. I've never had a problem with either one, and they run like a cheetah.
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Amen to that
Great post. I too am astonished with how much bitching & whining goes on. It seems like 80% of the posts are people who want to wallow as victims. I owned two Corvettes and I couldn't be happier. I've never had a problem with either one, and they run like a cheetah. Out.
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My Z06 drop top is a daily driver for the most part. Today I'm taking the trike to work. Close to 80* and sunny. My biggest issue is my lower back. I'm hoping the physical therapy will help. I do not relish the idea of having to give it up. I'm only 72
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Amen to that!
I don't want to make this a rant, it will probably come across that way anyhow.
I am continually surprised and saddened by the tone on this Forum. Folks buy Corvettes for many reasons, but a very vocal group has appointed themselves the keepers of HOW a Corvette owner should:
1. Spec HIS/HER car.
2. What HE/SHE should DO with THEIR Corvette.
In no particular order, here are the never ending burrs under the self appointed KING'S saddles:
1. Chrome wheels: Holy cow, how can so many people find this SO offensive? Don't like chrome wheels? Fine, DON'T order them. If someone else LIKES them and it is, THEIR CAR, why is this a problem? And why cover your dislike/hatred AD NAUSEUM. We got the first time, really.
2. Convertibles: This one is near and dear to me because all 5 of my Corvettes have been convertibles. There is some kind of macho thing going on here that's really laughable. Since one can't track a convertible, these tough guys consider the convertible a poser car. Never mind the fact that probably 95% of these keyboard warriors DON'T track their coupes (assuming they even OWN a Corvette rather than a Civic with a rear wing).
3. Convertible Part 2: GM is going to offer a ZR1 convertible....you would think they're clubbing baby seals with the outcry. A handy reminder: Ferrari offers every "special" mid-engine V8 car in convertible (see 16M for example). So, it's OK for Ferrari, but GM is diluting the "purpose" of the ZR1 or whatever silly reason for this hissy fit. There was the same outcry, probably from the same guys, when they offered a Z06 convertible.
4. Manual verses automatic: This is a great one. Basically, REAL men buy manuals, waxers buy autos. Of course, that's patently WRONG but what the hell. All Ferraris since 2011 have been automatics, BTW. Ditto McLaren, but they don't count because they're DCT's. Pretty sure if a transmission will shift itself, regardless of design, it's an AUTOMATIC.
5. Old guys, Corvettes, and how they use them: Well....I'm NOW an old guy...bought my first Corvette at age 40, now I'm closing in on 61. I suppose I should have the good taste to start buying Lexus'. This one perplexes me the most. An old guy buys a Corvette (with chrome wheels and an automatic!), enjoys his car on nice days, goes to Corvette shows (and Cars and Coffee), sits in a lawn chair and talks CARS with other folks that also love CARS. And he waxes his car (the shame!). You would think the guy is a mass murderer the way his kind are talked about here. I don't get it and sure as hell don't know who died and made the complainers KING FOR A DAY.
In the end, I love my Corvette as I have all of them. It brings a smile to my face and even after nearly four years of owning my C7, I STILL make up excuses to take it out for drive. Forums are great, opinions are (mostly) great...the problem with too many Corvette Forum opinions is that they are mean spirited and divisive. Don't like chrome wheels? Cool. Why slap someone around because they do?
This is a CORVETTE. Let's all just enjoy ours and appreciate that everyone is looking for something different in THEIR Corvette. We call these "choices".
Jimmy
PS. The +/- of the above Corvette, which I ordered, equipped EXACTLY the way I wanted it:
Minus:
Convertible
Non Z51
Plus:
No chrome wheels
Manual transmission
So, I guess I'm even....
PSS. I forgot the car has NPP. So, I'm cool by a score of 3 to 2!!!! Yay me.
PSSS. I put in an MGW shifter a week and a half ago....4 to 2....
PSSSS: It's lowered all the way (stock bolts) Man, 5 to 2....I'm closing in on REALLY cool.
I am continually surprised and saddened by the tone on this Forum. Folks buy Corvettes for many reasons, but a very vocal group has appointed themselves the keepers of HOW a Corvette owner should:
1. Spec HIS/HER car.
2. What HE/SHE should DO with THEIR Corvette.
In no particular order, here are the never ending burrs under the self appointed KING'S saddles:
1. Chrome wheels: Holy cow, how can so many people find this SO offensive? Don't like chrome wheels? Fine, DON'T order them. If someone else LIKES them and it is, THEIR CAR, why is this a problem? And why cover your dislike/hatred AD NAUSEUM. We got the first time, really.
2. Convertibles: This one is near and dear to me because all 5 of my Corvettes have been convertibles. There is some kind of macho thing going on here that's really laughable. Since one can't track a convertible, these tough guys consider the convertible a poser car. Never mind the fact that probably 95% of these keyboard warriors DON'T track their coupes (assuming they even OWN a Corvette rather than a Civic with a rear wing).
3. Convertible Part 2: GM is going to offer a ZR1 convertible....you would think they're clubbing baby seals with the outcry. A handy reminder: Ferrari offers every "special" mid-engine V8 car in convertible (see 16M for example). So, it's OK for Ferrari, but GM is diluting the "purpose" of the ZR1 or whatever silly reason for this hissy fit. There was the same outcry, probably from the same guys, when they offered a Z06 convertible.
4. Manual verses automatic: This is a great one. Basically, REAL men buy manuals, waxers buy autos. Of course, that's patently WRONG but what the hell. All Ferraris since 2011 have been automatics, BTW. Ditto McLaren, but they don't count because they're DCT's. Pretty sure if a transmission will shift itself, regardless of design, it's an AUTOMATIC.
5. Old guys, Corvettes, and how they use them: Well....I'm NOW an old guy...bought my first Corvette at age 40, now I'm closing in on 61. I suppose I should have the good taste to start buying Lexus'. This one perplexes me the most. An old guy buys a Corvette (with chrome wheels and an automatic!), enjoys his car on nice days, goes to Corvette shows (and Cars and Coffee), sits in a lawn chair and talks CARS with other folks that also love CARS. And he waxes his car (the shame!). You would think the guy is a mass murderer the way his kind are talked about here. I don't get it and sure as hell don't know who died and made the complainers KING FOR A DAY.
In the end, I love my Corvette as I have all of them. It brings a smile to my face and even after nearly four years of owning my C7, I STILL make up excuses to take it out for drive. Forums are great, opinions are (mostly) great...the problem with too many Corvette Forum opinions is that they are mean spirited and divisive. Don't like chrome wheels? Cool. Why slap someone around because they do?
This is a CORVETTE. Let's all just enjoy ours and appreciate that everyone is looking for something different in THEIR Corvette. We call these "choices".
Jimmy
PS. The +/- of the above Corvette, which I ordered, equipped EXACTLY the way I wanted it:
Minus:
Convertible
Non Z51
Plus:
No chrome wheels
Manual transmission
So, I guess I'm even....
PSS. I forgot the car has NPP. So, I'm cool by a score of 3 to 2!!!! Yay me.
PSSS. I put in an MGW shifter a week and a half ago....4 to 2....
PSSSS: It's lowered all the way (stock bolts) Man, 5 to 2....I'm closing in on REALLY cool.
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If your name is on the title, I'm fairly sure you can do whatever you want with your own car.
Also the advent of the high-tech performance automatic trans has made the manual vs auto strictly about preference, really. I am a card carrying track-day-bro, and I've always driven cars with MTs. I would not think for a second that my C7s A8 would dampen the experience on track at all. When you're on it it bangs off really fast shifts like a champ and asks for more. So yes it seems to be all about dick-measuring.
Also the advent of the high-tech performance automatic trans has made the manual vs auto strictly about preference, really. I am a card carrying track-day-bro, and I've always driven cars with MTs. I would not think for a second that my C7s A8 would dampen the experience on track at all. When you're on it it bangs off really fast shifts like a champ and asks for more. So yes it seems to be all about dick-measuring.
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#119
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I see similar behavior with the Harley riders. There are some of the "old school" Harley guys who think that if you don't ride in the rain, sleet and snow you are not a "real" biker. Whether its Harleys or Corvettes, the whole point is to have fun and savor the experience. I can't do that if I'm cold and miserable on two wheels so I am definitely a fair weather biker.
BTW, I have chrome wheels on my C6 and they look great, and I have machine face wheels on my '17 GS (both manual trans). Free choice is one of the great joys of living in the USA.
BTW, I have chrome wheels on my C6 and they look great, and I have machine face wheels on my '17 GS (both manual trans). Free choice is one of the great joys of living in the USA.
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