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Old 11-23-2017, 08:31 PM
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2017 C7 Stingray Vert. I have been told that tires on this Vette are only good for about 10-12k miles and they can not be driven in cold weather. Is that correct?

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They should last longer than 10-12K miles unless burning rubber and drifting is your normal driving style. Most people get at least 15-20K miles, and with conservative driving some have gotten close to 30K miles.

They can be driven in cold weather, but below 40F they have very little grip. I certainly don't recommend it. You can drive carefully, but you'd still be in trouble in a panic stop situation because grip is as important for braking as driving. I do drive mine year round, but I have a 2nd set of wheel and tires, and I run UHP all-seasons between November and April.

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Congrats on your Stingray Vert!

The OEM tires are soft but mileage will be determined primarily by your right foot. Drive hard and you'll do well to make it to 12k, drive conservatively and you'll do better but they are not high-mileage radials.

As for cold weather, they are soft summer tires and will get slippery as the temps fall so be careful; your traction will not be the same as when it's sunny and 80. There are also reported concerns with the tires cracking if driven when very cold. I've yet to find official guidance to that affect in the OM or associated literature that came with my car...


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They are only soft when temps are warm. The summer compound becomes as hard as a brick in cold weather, and when it's very cold, you might as well be on ice skates even on dry pavement.

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Originally Posted by 430hp
2017 C7 Stingray Vert. I have been told that tires on this Vette are only good for about 10-12k miles and they can not be driven in cold weather. Is that correct?

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Z06 Cup2 tires are the ones with low mileage as an average. On my Stingray I got close to 28K out of the stockers. The Z06 I will be lucky to get 10K out of the Cup 2's still with no track use...
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I got 45,000 on my rears, and 35,000 on my fronts.

I don't drive like an oldwoman despite my username. 17 mpg lifetime, just so you know. I don't burn rubber, however.

I get frequent alignments with everything set as close to zero as possible. For street use, this has served me well.
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I got more than 30K out of my tires......
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Originally Posted by Foosh
They are only soft when temps are warm. The summer compound becomes as hard as a brick in cold weather, and when it's very cold, you might as well be on ice skates even on dry pavement.
Had my car about 4 days. Yesterday at 35 degrees I was leaving my neighborhood and pulled in front of a car doing 45 mph. I hit the gas a little just to get up to speed as I rounded the corner and the back end slid out. Yes, when the tires are cold and the temps are cold, you'll need to go easy on the throttle
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Originally Posted by Soonere39
Had my car about 4 days. Yesterday at 35 degrees I was leaving my neighborhood and pulled in front of a car doing 45 mph. I hit the gas a little just to get up to speed as I rounded the corner and the back end slid out. Yes, when the tires are cold and the temps are cold, you'll need to go easy on the throttle
I was thinking you had your car for four days, and THAT would be the reason you might want to go easy on the throttle. Silly me.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
They are only soft when temps are warm. The summer compound becomes as hard as a brick in cold weather, and when it's very cold, you might as well be on ice skates even on dry pavement.
A tiny bit of hyperbole there. I’ve driven my ‘14 vert year round in CO on the stock tires unless there is snow or ice on the road. That includes temps in the teens. They are not “as hard as a brick” and it’s not like “ice skates.”
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Foosh and I agree on most everything but this.

We live practically within shouting distance, but he chooses to put other tires on during the winter. I like the idea, btw if it's feasible. For the most part, our winters don't get below freezing for any length of time (a few days mostly). I have my C6 with A/S tire to deal with those days.

I don't plan to drive it in snow (but I have), I also don't plan to drive it below 32F, but I have.

I wouldn't call the tires hockey pucks at those temps, but much caution is advisable
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I got 11,500 miles on mine. I'm on my third set of tires with 49,000 on the car now. The second set came in at about 25K, but they were the Michelin All season ZP tires. The third set is AS also. Very good tires. I drive the car hard, so therefore I don't get optimal mileage on my tires. I was amazed I got 25K on the second set. I just plan on paying $1,500 a year for tires. That's a heck of a lot more than my insurance. I will have had the car for 2 years this coming Dec 1st. Best car by far I have ever had. We have more fun between going from point A to point B than the actual destinations themselves. This is the only car I have ever had where I don't have to slow down going around corners. Now that explains the poor mileage I get on my tires.
A friend of mine with a C7 drives like a normal person and she got 28,000 on her first set.

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My original tires are at 26,000 miles and still have some miles left in them. I don’t run them real hard but do have some fun driving.

The first couple of times I drove it in temperatures in the 30s I thought something was wrong with the car. It was noticeably stiffer riding and the little bumps in the road made the car creak and rattle enough to get my attention. Once I realized the cold tires were the culprit it didn’t seem so bad.

I think the short sidewalls on the low profile, run flat tires add to the stiffness. Mine is a base Stingray with the 18/19 wheels so I would imagine the 19/20 wheels and tires would be a little stiffer yet.

Enjoy your car and take some time to figure out all it’s quirks and qualities. You have a lot of fun miles before the tires wear out!

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I have 16K on mine and am getting ready to change out for all-seasons. If I wasn't driving 2 hrs a day on them, and winter wasn't coming I'd probably leave them on for another 5K. But tread is compromised enough that they're gonna go.
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Do most folks replace tires after getting down to the wear bars or wait until other signs of significant wear show?

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Originally Posted by op z
Do most folks replace tires after getting down to the wear bars or wait until other signs of significant wear show?
I replace mine before they get that low or if uneven wear when the first one gets there.

Hydroplaning is less with more tread. Especially with the wide Grand Sport tires will change to have a reasonable deep tread remaking. One slide hitting even a curb costs more than tires!

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Originally Posted by owc6

I don't plan to drive it in snow (but I have), I also don't plan to drive it below 32F, but I have.

I wouldn't call the tires hockey pucks at those temps, but much caution is advisable
No matter the vehicle or tires, Rain, ice, snow...slow down, drive with caution. You need more space to come to a complete stop.

I took delivery of my car in September. One of the first thing the sales advisor told me was don’t drive on these tires under 30 degrees. They aren’t made for cold weather driving. By Thanksgiving I had a set of A/S3+ On the car.

They are made of two different rubber compounds, the super sport rubber dosen’t respond as well in cold tempatures. They also run the super sports at Spring Mountain after a season on the track, they feel like sandpaper. That’s running in the optimum conditions they were made for. You will never meet or exceed those conditions on the street, so you could run A/S3+ all year round without a noticeable difference in performance.

This year I swapped on Halloween, and will switch back for a second full summer of my OEM tires. It will be interesting to see if I get another set or just stick with the A/S3+ all year around.
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Originally Posted by op z
Do most folks replace tires after getting down to the wear bars or wait until other signs of significant wear show?
That's not a smart idea, really. Although it's LEGAL to drive down to 2/32nds, the stopping distance starts to increase rapidly after you get down to 4/32nds of wear. I saw a video of this and it was really impressive.

In terms of the OEMs I took mine off at 12,500 miles and they had 7/32nds left. I'm not sure that's much less than they had originally. Mostly freeway driving though.


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When it's cold and wet. Best time to drive it!!

Grand Sport with OEM Super Sports and about 5k miles. Yep that's me. Took me about 1 minute to find out how slippery it was.



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