Worst sucker sticker of all time?
12-06-2017, 01:31 PM
#41
Race Director
When I bought my C6 the dealer had the same sucker sticker with about a 1k mark up on a car that had been sitting on the lot for a year. I walked in in the last day of the month showed them Kerbecks price on the same car. They matched it so I bought it.
Of course still had to go thru the finance office gauntlet even though I paid cash. I just sat down and said no to everything.
So I got no super wax, no edge guards, no pin stripe, no nitrogen and no deluxe undercoat. Oh and no window etching anti theft. Somehow the car still drives.
Of course still had to go thru the finance office gauntlet even though I paid cash. I just sat down and said no to everything.
So I got no super wax, no edge guards, no pin stripe, no nitrogen and no deluxe undercoat. Oh and no window etching anti theft. Somehow the car still drives.
12-06-2017, 01:38 PM
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12-06-2017, 01:41 PM
#43
Most of the finance folks these days are used to hearing "no" a lot, so they usually don't push anymore. I always grease the skids with my salesperson by asking them to inform the paperwork person, I won't be purchasing any plans or other extras.
12-06-2017, 02:44 PM
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Typical scummy, greedy dealer. Makes ya wanna bail 'em all out next time, too!!!
Last edited by Avanti; 12-06-2017 at 02:48 PM.
12-06-2017, 03:17 PM
#46
I would like to know the name of the dealer. I am looking for a C7 in southwest Florida, and probably need to avoid shopping here.
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12-06-2017, 03:56 PM
#47
Besides, it is not really the nitrogen that is the benefit, it is that nitrogen comes in cylinders and does not contain moisture that you would have with compressed air... otherwise, nitrogen behaves according to the same physical laws as all the other gases (nitrogen, oxygen, argon, etc.)
12-06-2017, 05:46 PM
#48
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Sonic owned dealers in my area are the worst at these type add on's. If you don't read the fine print at the bottom of the page you won't even know you're paying for the stuff. They're prices are $389 for cars, and $789 for trucks for the same things listed above. And to top it all off, they still stick you for their $699 BS "Doc fees". Never would I darken their doors.
12-06-2017, 06:19 PM
#49
Safety Car
I bought a new Ram 1500 a couple of months ago...add on sticker had $699 running boards and $299 nitrogen. I told them to bleed the tires and put air in them and take off the running boards. They took another $1K off the sticker and I kept both. It's a scam and they will normally cave if you question it.
12-06-2017, 06:53 PM
#50
My local dealer wanted $800 doc fee, $400 dealer fee, eregistration fee, and mandatory $300 wheel locks. They are selling corvettes for 20% off and then pull this crap. Told them to shove it out of principle. Bomnin Chevrolet for anyone wondering
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12-06-2017, 07:09 PM
#52
Le Mans Master
Agreed N2 in is a waste of money in anything other than a 200 mph plus racer but you're a little off on the benefit of N2 in certain applications. N2 is inert to the point it doesn't react with rim material or tire compound, holds tire pressure better due to the lack of bleed through, & most importantly is more heat temp stable. The heat build up in high speed tires, if filled with compressed air, can off gas with the oxygen in the air & cause tire explosion. Not the case with N2.
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12-06-2017, 07:23 PM
#53
Burning Brakes
Since I also live in sw Florida I also need the name of this bum dealer. If you don't want to call out the dealer give us initials or location. Much thanks, Paul
12-06-2017, 07:38 PM
#54
I agree n2 is inert so less of a fire hazard than o2 but not as important on auto tires as say aircraft tires. The part about n2 maintaining more constant pressure than air because the molecule is larger and cannot permeate the tire is still false. The main fluctuation in pressure is because the moisture changes volume, not the gas.
nitrogen is a racing thing, yes? (i know its used in aircraft tires). and the main issue as far as i have heard is keeping moisture out of the tire.
so my question is this (for those with real valid use of nitrogen in tires, either racing or aircraft). how do you make sure that you the tire is completely empty of normal air before you pump in the nitrogen? I would assume if you dont do this, its pointless.
and yes its a scam. i think there are a lot of folks that only look at the monthly cost and as long as they can come in with a figure they can deal with, they are less careful about the actual cost and in fact i suspect that many car buyers are at a disadvantage to begin with because of what they want and what they can really afford so the 'add ons' are the least of their worries.
the last car i purchased, they sent me to the f&i guy and i walked into his office and said.. 'so youre the f&i guy' he got the drift, no small talk or upsale, i wrote a check out of my checking account for the purchase and we were done. and this was a local dealer who as a bad rep. i assume they figured they had a sale, why screw with someone who would most likely walk.
12-06-2017, 07:50 PM
#55
I agree n2 is inert so less of a fire hazard than o2 but not as important on auto tires as say aircraft tires. The part about n2 maintaining more constant pressure than air because the molecule is larger and cannot permeate the tire is still false. The main fluctuation in pressure is because the moisture changes volume, not the gas.
I'm done hijacking this thread about the properties of N2.
12-06-2017, 07:53 PM
#56
Race Director
Mandatory wheel locks. I live in a heavy dealer rip off area and that's a new one on me !
12-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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12-06-2017, 08:45 PM
#58
Not sure how to post pictures these days since Photobucket changed their policy. Several years ago while shopping for a truck I came across a gem on a new Toyota Tacoma. I have the picture, but since I can't post it, I'll just type the add on's.
Removal of transport protective coating, non reimbursable expenses for policy adjustments, non reimbursed pre delivery charges, local freight and storage, also includes new vehicle enhancement package 1: color door edge guards, color coordinated pin stripe, nitrogen fill tires.
The total add on for that... $1,695.
Needless to say, I did not purchase a truck from that dealership.
Removal of transport protective coating, non reimbursable expenses for policy adjustments, non reimbursed pre delivery charges, local freight and storage, also includes new vehicle enhancement package 1: color door edge guards, color coordinated pin stripe, nitrogen fill tires.
The total add on for that... $1,695.
Needless to say, I did not purchase a truck from that dealership.
