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Old 12-19-2017, 03:20 PM
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Has anyone been having the A8 problems on late model 2017 builds or the 2018? Have they got the problems solved?
Old 12-19-2017, 03:36 PM
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The problems will persist until they abandon the bone-headed idea that they can let the lock-up clutch in the torque converter constantly slip a little during V4 operation to eliminate pulses in the drive train.

I told my wife, a librarian, how GM engineers had come up with this great way to make the car smoother while it was saving fuel, and told her how the system worked. She said it sounded just like riding the clutch, something her father had told her never to do when she was learning to drive. That proves you don't have to be an automotive engineering genius to see it's a terrible idea.
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Old 12-19-2017, 03:45 PM
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My current 2016 does get the slight RPM dance in auto mode, but is very smooth, and has no shudder, vibration etc. I keep it mostly in paddle mode to eliminate the RPM flux. Only have 5k easy miles on it. But it worries me after reading all the other stories. Love the car, and would swx to a comparable 2014 or 2017/18 if I could find one in the same color combo with a HUD and very low mileage, as long as I know the problems been solved.

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Originally Posted by Squeaky Wheel
Has anyone been having the A8 problems on late model 2017 builds or the 2018? Have they got the problems solved?
The fact everyone using an A8 is resorting to paddle mode just shows how crappy the A8 is. There's a reason you're using paddle mode and that's because the automatic mode is a hunk of junk unless you take it in to be fixed by gm. Sure... call me a douche for saying it.... I sometimes get my karma stalling in rush hour once a month.

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Old 12-19-2017, 04:22 PM
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The fact everyone using an A8 is resorting to paddle mode just shows how crappy the A8 is. There's a reason you're using paddle mode and that's because the automatic mode is a hunk of junk unless you take it in to be fixed by gm. Sure... call me a douche for saying it.... I sometimes get my karma stalling in rush hour once a month.
Yeah, but the paddle mode is still easier IMO than dealing with a clutch. Also, from the many comments, it appears there is no true fix.
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The problems will persist until they abandon the bone-headed idea that they can let the lock-up clutch in the torque converter constantly slip a little during V4 operation to eliminate pulses in the drive train.


Why a lock-up convertor anyway with 8 speeds? Do you really save that much fuel dropping the rpm a whole 150 RPM in 8th gear?
Old 12-19-2017, 04:42 PM
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I had the same issue with my 2016 Camaro SS. I chose the M7 in the Stingray this time around. Hopefully the 10-speed auto will be rock solid and make its way into the Corvette soon. From what I see, the 10 speed in the ZL1 and new Mustangs shifts much quicker as well.
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What's the deal with the Range Tech fuel management?
Isn't this device supposed to keep the trans. from going into the v4 mode?
Old 12-19-2017, 04:50 PM
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Hopefully the 10-speed auto will be rock solid and make its way into the Corvette soon.
Supposedly to be too big to fit in current platform, otherwise it would likley have been in the new ZR-1. Yeah, the new mustang GT with the 10spd I hear is a bit faster than the GT350?!?
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Originally Posted by WelderGuy
The problems will persist until they abandon the bone-headed idea that they can let the lock-up clutch in the torque converter constantly slip a little during V4 operation to eliminate pulses in the drive train.

I told my wife, a librarian, how GM engineers had come up with this great way to make the car smoother while it was saving fuel, and told her how the system worked. She said it sounded just like riding the clutch, something her father had told her never to do when she was learning to drive. That proves you don't have to be an automotive engineering genius to see it's a terrible idea.


Contrary to popular belief, the A8 is a very good transmission. The problem is in the programming. Using your wife’s analogy (which is very good, by the way,) the clutch in a manual would turn to toast quickly under these circumstances.

I see three solutions:

1) Keep the A8 in manual mode. (I bought an automatic because I don’t want to shift my car manually.)

2) Buy the Range AFM disabler. It looks like they have all the kinks worked out with version 8.6. So, I have to spend $200 to disable a HS system that I didn’t want in the first place.

3) GM gets their $hit together and programs the A8 like the M7, that is AFM in Eco mode only. Forget this option, it make too much sense and doesn’t cost anything.
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Originally Posted by GTRSOLO
Do you really save that much fuel dropping the rpm a whole 150 RPM in 8th gear?
The fuel economy comes in by eliminating the fluid coupling between the engine and transmission input shaft by mechanically locking them. The fluid coupling wastes energy and creates heat.
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Old 12-19-2017, 05:13 PM
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Ever since my 2016 had a triple flush it shifts as it should. However i recommend M7.
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Ever since my 2016 had a triple flush it shifts as it should. However i recommend M7.
Mine shifts fine. And it drives fine. Very smooth, no strange noises, vibration etc. Absolutely no clue anything strange is going on, unless you happen to be looking at the tach. Just don’t have confidence it will continue to be problem free.
Old 12-19-2017, 06:15 PM
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I find the paddle shifter in my 17 GS to be nothing more than a novelty. I much prefer the “performance shift” in auto. Maybe the paddles are good for the track, but for street driving, no thanks. I don’t like the delayed response. I’m going to buy the range.
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Originally Posted by Squeaky Wheel
Mine shifts fine. And it drives fine. Very smooth, no strange noises, vibration etc. Absolutely no clue anything strange is going on, unless you happen to be looking at the tach. Just don’t have confidence it will continue to be problem free.
I believe I would be perfectly happy with my A8 along with thousands of others, if I hadn't started participating on this forum.

If an A8 owner and spent any time here you either have an A8 problem, think you have a one or are worried about having one.
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^^^^^ very true!
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I believe I would be perfectly happy with my A8 along with thousands of others, if I hadn't started participating on this forum.

If an A8 owner and spent any time here you either have an A8 problem, think you have a one or are worried about having one.
I’m kind of starting to think the same. I know I still have over 3 years of warranty and should just relax and enjoy the car. But it’s hard to have confidence in it.

Curious if you or any of our other owners have had the rpm fluxes with no other indications of a problem, and if so, for how long?

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Old 12-19-2017, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones
I believe I would be perfectly happy with my A8 along with thousands of others, if I hadn't started participating on this forum.

If an A8 owner and spent any time here you either have an A8 problem, think you have a one or are worried about having one.
I agree. Ever since I started reading about these issues, I feel like my car is doomed even though my 2017 was built in 12/16 and if you look at the statistics, there is a very low likelihood that I should have an issue, it’s just that I obsess over these things. I can’t help it, I’ve been around machinery both large and small my whole life and have gotten used to things failing at one time or another.
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Originally Posted by Squeaky Wheel
I’m kind of starting to think the same. I know I still have over 3 years of warranty and should just relax and enjoy the car. But it’s hard to have confidence in it.

Curious if you or any of our other owners have had the rpm fluxes with no other indications of a problem, and if so, for how long?
Before I had my TC replaced in my 2015 A8, I had the RPM problem and also the shuddering. The service tech stated that if I had the RPM movement at steady speed and not the shudder, they still would have had to replaced my TC. The shuttering was driving me crazy and after my TC was replaced, no more problems with the tranny. I'm not sure what came first the shuddering or the RPM problem.

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I just bought the Range device so I don't have to worry about it. If I wanted fuel economy, I would have bought an economical car. Range is $199 piece of mind.
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