Well, after 15 years of only driving GM cars, I'm done.
#201
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One thing for certain is that your premise the OP’s dealer did shoddy service is not plausible. How can you make a final judgement about the OP’s claim when you have not heard the dealer’s side of the story? Have you not heard of the legal principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty? This principle serves as a basis for our nation’s judicial system. I for one do not believe that all GM dealerships perform shoddy service. I could have just as easily have said all lawyers are crooks. No, I believe everybody is entitled to their day in court. The OP’s thread never presented the dealerships’ case to his claim that they did him wrong. It doesn’t seem we’ll ever get to know the whole truth in this matter. Maybe the OP can get the service manager to come on here and discuss their side. What do you think about this?
#202
Le Mans Master
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One thing for certain is that your premise the OP’s dealer did shoddy service is not plausible. How can you make a final judgement about the OP’s claim when you have not heard the dealer’s side of the story? Have you not heard of the legal principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty? This principle serves as a basis for our nation’s judicial system. I for one do not believe that all GM dealerships perform shoddy service. I could have just as easily have said all lawyers are crooks. No, I believe everybody is entitled to their day in court. The OP’s thread never presented the dealerships’ case to his claim that they did him wrong. It doesn’t seem we’ll ever get to know the whole truth in this matter. Maybe the OP can get the service manager to come on here and discuss their side. What do you think about this?
#203
Le Mans Master
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#204
Burning Brakes
This stuff isn't made up? Why GM is being dragged in for this jackass dealership does not bother me. I would of been all over the dealer, not sure how you knew work was not performed wnen they say it was. There is no way I would of let my car stay at a dealership like that for 72 days. It would be nice to here the whole story, like what really got broke and what got fixed. I am confused, you state your beef is with GM but them rant about the dealership! What is GM supposed to do to make it right for you? Shut them down? Cool story bro! Better then reading comics on a sunday morning. It does ,make me worry though as I will need to bring mine in to a dealer soon for an oil change! I sure hope its not there 72 days or I have a horror story to follow yours!
Last edited by MrGary2011; 01-06-2018 at 10:01 AM.
#205
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We’re in a court of sorts...a court of public opinion where you have been the judge and jury in slamming this dealership. However, unlike a real court of law you never gave the defendant a chance to present their side. In this absence, I’m afraid your thread has amounted to a Kangaroo Court.
#206
Melting Slicks
Well there you have it. Its your fault plain and simple. You were offered a plan that would protect you and handle situations like this and you chose to gamble, you lost and it bit you in the ***.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
#207
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One thing for certain is that your premise the OP’s dealer did shoddy service is not plausible. How can you make a final judgement about the OP’s claim when you have not heard the dealer’s side of the story? Have you not heard of the legal principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty? This principle serves as a basis for our nation’s judicial system. I for one do not believe that all GM dealerships perform shoddy service. I could have just as easily have said all lawyers are crooks. No, I believe everybody is entitled to their day in court. The OP’s thread never presented the dealerships’ case to his claim that they did him wrong. It doesn’t seem we’ll ever get to know the whole truth in this matter. Maybe the OP can get the service manager to come on here and discuss their side. What do you think about this?
#208
Le Mans Master
I think it has a greater amount of arrogant and argumentative participants, but it’s still informative, which is why people stick around.
It’s hard to argue that is doen’t support some of the stereotypes.
Not even close...
It’s hard to argue that is doen’t support some of the stereotypes.
Not even close...
#210
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No, I'm just not buying another GM vehicle again. **** them. I may even buy another car, get an extended warranty on this one and track it every single damn weekend until every single part is replaced under warranty.
I am actually in the market for a daily driver, and WAS looking at (used) Tahoes.
I am actually in the market for a daily driver, and WAS looking at (used) Tahoes.
Went through the flying off top issue too. Bottom line: after a few months of owning the car and experiencing the Chevy dealer personally and on thos Forum, I did all needed maintenance the rest of the time I owned the C6. For example, I went for my first oil change at the Chevy dealership and the mechanic asked me if I had any lift pucks as he could not find his to use to lift my car to change the oil. I got out of that place fast and changed my oil myself.
Almost all Chevy dealer service depts SUCK. AND, not to sound like a snob, who wants to wait with Malibu and Cruze owners why their $65K plus car is being fixed/serviced.
Now, I own a Lexus and will never buy from GM again, except for a GMC pickup!
#211
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Well there you have it. Its your fault plain and simple. You were offered a plan that would protect you and handle situations like this and you chose to gamble, you lost and it bit you in the ***.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
#212
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One thing for certain is that your premise the OP’s dealer did shoddy service is not plausible. How can you make a final judgement about the OP’s claim when you have not heard the dealer’s side of the story? Have you not heard of the legal principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty? This principle serves as a basis for our nation’s judicial system. I for one do not believe that all GM dealerships perform shoddy service. I could have just as easily have said all lawyers are crooks. No, I believe everybody is entitled to their day in court. The OP’s thread never presented the dealerships’ case to his claim that they did him wrong. It doesn’t seem we’ll ever get to know the whole truth in this matter. Maybe the OP can get the service manager to come on here and discuss their side. What do you think about this?
#213
Wheels and tires are not covered by the new car warranty, unless it's an obvious manufacturing defect. Moreover damage caused by the dealer is not a warranty item.
#214
Melting Slicks
Well there you have it. Its your fault plain and simple. You were offered a plan that would protect you and handle situations like this and you chose to gamble, you lost and it bit you in the ***.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
I never felt sympathetic for those who bought high dollar toys (me included) who were offered plans ie: extended service contracts, T&W packages then they have mechanical issues or rims break- and ITS GOING TO HAPPEN then it boo frickin who I hate the world, I hate the manufacturer.
Look at the person in the mirror, you could’ve avoided this but you felt you were being shrewd so you cut off your nose to spite your face.
Last edited by spinkick; 01-06-2018 at 11:29 AM.
#215
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Only thing I see wrong is letting the damn car sit there. I would have it towed to a wheel place and had it fixed or bought new wheels. Damn the dealer.
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#216
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There was not a shred of evidence in this entire thread that this statement is true. This claim is nothing more the OP’s suspicion of what happened. He does not have any eyewitness testimony, nor does he have videographic evidence nor did he witness that the dealer caused any damage. His statement is nothing more than conjecture that would not hold up in a court of law. I suspect this is the real reason the OP, who is a a lawyer by the way, never pursued a claim in a small claims court. Sorry Charlie but you statement does not hold water.
Last edited by JumpingJackFlash; 01-06-2018 at 12:07 PM.
#217
The new car warranty part is irrelevant in this situation. That's why the GM-bashing here is a bit mis-placed. GM has limited control over dealers, which are independent businesses. About all GM can do is cancel a dealer franchise within their rather limited contractual powers to do so. They can't dictate to a dealer how a situation is handled.
Last edited by Foosh; 01-06-2018 at 12:12 PM.
#218
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There was not a shred of evidence in this entire thread that this statement is true. This claim is nothing more the OP’s suspicion of what happened. He does not have any eyewitness testimony, nor does he have videographic evidence nor did he witness that the dealer caused any damage. His statement is nothing more than conjecture that would not hold up in a court of law. I suspect this is the real reason the OP, who is a a lawyer by the way, never pursued a claim in a small claims court. Sorry Charlie but you statement does not hold water.
I would go with what the owner stated and show some customer service and give him a new wheel.
Give me a break....all of this over one cracked wheel!
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#220
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The guy bought TWO vettes from the same dealer. Obviously you have never heard of “good will,” nor customer service. So, he has to PROVE the dealer cracked the wheel. Didn’t he say the technician hit a pot hole and cracked the wheel? Or, is the owner just a liar and just trying to get a new wheel he cracked for free...as you are implying?
I would go with what the owner stated and show some customer service and give him a new wheel.
Give me a break....all of this over one cracked wheel!
I would go with what the owner stated and show some customer service and give him a new wheel.
Give me a break....all of this over one cracked wheel!
Last edited by JumpingJackFlash; 01-06-2018 at 12:29 PM.