Rejected because of Vette...
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St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
I have no great love for AARP, but the problem is The Hartford, not AARP. When I was a young man I had three bad experiences with The Hartford. When I had a claim due to a theft of a tape player and damage to my Mustang, they told me not to file because the increase in rates would be more than I would recover. Then when I wanted to buy a Corvette, they told me it had to be in my dad's name and the cost was about 25% of the cost of the car. I picked up a policy from NJM for about half what Hartford wanted, but in my name with WAY better coverage. My dad was with them for over 30 years. As soon as he turned 65, they dumped his car insurance, but were more than willing to continue his home owners, business and investment property insurance. I helped him get insurance with another company.
I've got no use for The Hartford and have not had auto, life or homeowners with them for my entire life since these incidents. They are run by statisticians and bean counters, loyalty means absolutely nothing to them.
I've got no use for The Hartford and have not had auto, life or homeowners with them for my entire life since these incidents. They are run by statisticians and bean counters, loyalty means absolutely nothing to them.
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desmophile (01-06-2018)
#62
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Geico- George Soros founded.
AARP? Are you for real? One of the largest socialist groups today. The one that lobbied for Obama Care (AARP is supposed to protect the over 50 group right?) and those idiot seniors cant afford or are crying about the cost of their health insurance (good for them).
If I were you I’d stick with USAA.
AARP? Are you for real? One of the largest socialist groups today. The one that lobbied for Obama Care (AARP is supposed to protect the over 50 group right?) and those idiot seniors cant afford or are crying about the cost of their health insurance (good for them).
If I were you I’d stick with USAA.
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Atomic6 (01-13-2018)
#63
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I've been insuring my Vettes and my house with The Hartford through AARP for 10 years now and no other company has been able to beat their rates so far. Service has always been good, too.
We started with two 2002 C5's and our other cars and now have a Mini Cooper, an Audi Q5, a 2002 C5 and my 2014 M7 2LT Z51 C7 insured through them along with our household. Never an issue.
We started with two 2002 C5's and our other cars and now have a Mini Cooper, an Audi Q5, a 2002 C5 and my 2014 M7 2LT Z51 C7 insured through them along with our household. Never an issue.
#64
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Just say no to the AARP
The executives of this organization have exceptionally bloated paychecks for what they do.
One of the small joys of daily life is throwing their mailed solicitations into the trash.
One of the small joys of daily life is throwing their mailed solicitations into the trash.
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Atomic6 (01-13-2018)
#65
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rmorin, USAA seems to be a stellar organization with which I have a few accounts and no issues. Safeco still came in at a better rate and I had no problems insuring my Z51 with them.Makes me curious why some get a better deal with this or that company.
Speaking of USAA, I'd be curious how many here have used their car buying service?
Speaking of USAA, I'd be curious how many here have used their car buying service?
#67
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
Buddy, sorry to hear that about your insurance. Give Adam Boca a call at the National Corvette Museum. Tell him I sent you. He'll take great care of you.
#68
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I'm a little surprised that this is still going on. Back in the late 80's, I bought a new Dodge Daytona Shelby. Drove it home and then called my agent to tell them I changed cars an was told "We don't insure turbocharged cars".
Spent the next several weeks calling everyone I could find, always the same thing: "Is it a turbo?", "Yes", "Sorry".
I guess they have the right to do whatever they want, but it kind of seems wrong to me they won't even give you a quote.
I mean, maybe it's stupid expensive but surely there is some price that would make it worth their while to insure any car.
Spent the next several weeks calling everyone I could find, always the same thing: "Is it a turbo?", "Yes", "Sorry".
I guess they have the right to do whatever they want, but it kind of seems wrong to me they won't even give you a quote.
I mean, maybe it's stupid expensive but surely there is some price that would make it worth their while to insure any car.
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I think at that time it was the insurance companies way of telling Detroit that you can make any type of car you want but if you make a car that will cost us money and hassle we just won't insure them. That was also a time when Detroit was under rating the horsepower of their performance cars for the same reason.
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St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
It may still be happening under their former, largest investor and now owner, Warren the IceCreamMan.
#71
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We've had USAA auto insurance for over 30 yrs now.
But once every 5 yrs or so, still go out to shop & compare other insurers for our family of 4, with 4 cars.
Just got a letter back from The Hartford:
"Thank you for taking the time to consider the AARP Auto Insurance Program from the The Hartford for your insurance needs.
For the Program to maintain competitive prices and to offer quality protection, we've established eligibility requirements.
Regretfully, we are unable to provide you with coverage at this time. We came to the decision because certain vehicles, like your 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2LT Z51, are either more susceptible to damage or are more expensive to repair than others.
It is important to us that you find the right coverage and rates. Please consider contacting another carrier for your insurance needs.
Sincerely,
Susan L. Castaneda
Assistant Vice President
The Hartford
AARP Auto Insurance Program"
I appreciate their honesty about rejecting us because we have a Vette in the household. But did their actuaries actually looked at how much it costs to repair our BMW & Mercedes? & maybe my other cars are much more susceptible to damage from being driven by my wife & kids...?
But once every 5 yrs or so, still go out to shop & compare other insurers for our family of 4, with 4 cars.
Just got a letter back from The Hartford:
"Thank you for taking the time to consider the AARP Auto Insurance Program from the The Hartford for your insurance needs.
For the Program to maintain competitive prices and to offer quality protection, we've established eligibility requirements.
Regretfully, we are unable to provide you with coverage at this time. We came to the decision because certain vehicles, like your 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2LT Z51, are either more susceptible to damage or are more expensive to repair than others.
It is important to us that you find the right coverage and rates. Please consider contacting another carrier for your insurance needs.
Sincerely,
Susan L. Castaneda
Assistant Vice President
The Hartford
AARP Auto Insurance Program"
I appreciate their honesty about rejecting us because we have a Vette in the household. But did their actuaries actually looked at how much it costs to repair our BMW & Mercedes? & maybe my other cars are much more susceptible to damage from being driven by my wife & kids...?
One other thing about the Hartford:. They are a very, very conservative company. they tout the fact that they insured Abraham Lincoln. I'm pretty sure they're still doing business the way they did when they insured Abraham Lincoln. They have to be one of the slowest companies I've ever dealt with.
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NavyBlue2 (01-08-2018)
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I have Liberty Mutual and have never had any of these problems. Two of my rental properties had problems and they covered them without question.
I now have a 2004 Lexus and 2 Corvettes (2006 and 2016) with them for about $1700/yr. Granted I have a good driving record and don't drive much. But when I turned in my annual mileage report I sent a letter explaining that the 2016 had more miles because it was purchased in Idaho and driven to California. They then sent me a refund of $738.
I don't need insurance headaches and have never had one with Liberty Mutual.
I now have a 2004 Lexus and 2 Corvettes (2006 and 2016) with them for about $1700/yr. Granted I have a good driving record and don't drive much. But when I turned in my annual mileage report I sent a letter explaining that the 2016 had more miles because it was purchased in Idaho and driven to California. They then sent me a refund of $738.
I don't need insurance headaches and have never had one with Liberty Mutual.
#73
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The thing that everyone here has missed is that these rules change state to state. Insurance company "A" in state "X" will have completely different underwriting rules, coverages, and rates in every state that they write in. Rates will vary down to the +4 tag on your zip code, often by a lot. They might accept a Corvette in one state but not others.
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#74
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The National Corvette Museum turned me down to insure my Z06 a year or so ago. No idea why. USAA has always been the highest rates for me for some unknown reason. I currently have Travelers insurance.
#75
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Thanks for the insider info, Vista, very interesting. And I would be very interested on your take on some of the claims against AARP being, well, leftie, partnering with an apparent ultra-conservative company. I'm not trying to start a skirmish in the thread, but info is welcomed from someone with feet in both worlds. Btw, I have no great love for AARP but they did offer the best Medigap plan w/ United Health.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for the insider info, Vista, very interesting. And I would be very interested on your take on some of the claims against AARP being, well, leftie, partnering with an apparent ultra-conservative company. I'm not trying to start a skirmish in the thread, but info is welcomed from someone with feet in both worlds. Btw, I have no great love for AARP but they did offer the best Medigap plan w/ United Health.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Regarding the issue with the OP: This issue more than likely stems from a state underwriting rule within The Hartford. It has nothing to do with AARP. As others have mentioned they have Corvettes with the Hartford, perhaps even with the AARP program. The AARP does not set Insurance rules and they have no say in whether the Hartford takes or doesn't take anything.
I don't get involved in AARP's lobbying or anything else they might do. Unfortunately their lobbying efforts do cost The Hartford some business. Often times I have to sell people with different carriers when The Hartford really would have been the very best fit for them. They just don't like the association with AARP. I try to explain that they are not buying insurance from AARP, they're buying insurance from The Hartford, and of course me, a local agent. The AARP gets a member and $16. Often times they have much of the same response that some of the posters here have expressed... left wing, commie Etc.
Let me shed light on one other subject: None of these insurance companies, no matter how long you've been with them, how much you pay them, how good of buddies you are with the agent, give a rat's a$$ about you. If you've been with the same insurance company for 5 years or so it's time to shop. Find a good independent agent and have them review your policy every couple years. They go up every few years and a good independent agent has multiple companies to shop for you. No, the agent isn't going to just do it automatically usually, you need to just give them a call or shoot them an email, but it's something that we do as agents all the time. Now, some of you live in areas where insurance is just darn cheap so the difference is just not enough for you to change companies. But in states like Nevada, specifically Las Vegas where I am, rates are massive, and it can really makes a big difference when you change carriers.
#77
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Thanks Vista, very informative. I do use an independent agent and just hope she has my best interest in mind. It's a local outfit in a small college town and it feels "small town" in the way they do business so, so far so good.
You may become our go-to guy for insurance info, so again, thanks for your no-nonsense posts.
You may become our go-to guy for insurance info, so again, thanks for your no-nonsense posts.
#78
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Thanks Vista, very informative. I do use an independent agent and just hope she has my best interest in mind. It's a local outfit in a small college town and it feels "small town" in the way they do business so, so far so good.
You may become our go-to guy for insurance info, so again, thanks for your no-nonsense posts.
You may become our go-to guy for insurance info, so again, thanks for your no-nonsense posts.
#79
Geico- George Soros founded.
AARP? Are you for real? One of the largest socialist groups today. The one that lobbied for Obama Care (AARP is supposed to protect the over 50 group right?) and those idiot seniors cant afford or are crying about the cost of their health insurance (good for them).
If I were you I’d stick with USAA.
AARP? Are you for real? One of the largest socialist groups today. The one that lobbied for Obama Care (AARP is supposed to protect the over 50 group right?) and those idiot seniors cant afford or are crying about the cost of their health insurance (good for them).
If I were you I’d stick with USAA.
As to insurance, my rates went down when I sold my electric car and bought my first Vette. GEICO quoted me $480/mo for coverage so I'm now using Esurance and paying $270/mo. It sucks but I love the car, so...
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