Surprised by poor quality of new 2018 at local dealer
#61
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Yeah the red one is unacceptable. Not the orange peel so much as the panel fitment. GM needs to have better quality control considering the cost of these cars.
#62
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At old owner's house...
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#63
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The paint on the red one and gaps are significantly (unacceptable) worse than mine so I tend to believe the red is from the old paint shop as I can't see robotics deviating that much. I can see some minor OP in mine but I don't have a problem with it. My gaps and panel alignment are inconsistent. The passenger side of the hood and hatch are much closer to the fenders than the driver. It is close enough on the left that it might rub with body flex. My fenders to bumpers look good as long as they are supposed to touch by design.
My only bitch is my infotainment system intermittently flickers and is due to the video connector for the display. Just hoping it will seat itself better.
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Amazing... I'm feeling VERY fortunate regarding my C7!!! And, I agree in looking at my C5. Both are far better than what's pictured, in all regards.
Just looked, July 19, 2017 production of for my '18.
As for the discussion of price in relationship to build quality ("relatively low" Vette prices justifying pi**-poor quality), one only need look at Kias or such and see that price is NOT the issue.
Just looked, July 19, 2017 production of for my '18.
As for the discussion of price in relationship to build quality ("relatively low" Vette prices justifying pi**-poor quality), one only need look at Kias or such and see that price is NOT the issue.
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#65
^^^^
KIA, is a powerful brand. They're the new quality benchmark other automakers only wish they had.
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#66
Recently looked at a couple of new $300,000 Lamborghini's in a showroom. Was shocked that the sides of the bumper panel that wrap around to meet the fender curvature around the front wheels protruded more than 1/8 in. past where it meets the corresponding front fender panel. When you look at a side view of the car there is not a smooth curvature where the two panels meet to form the body around a front wheel.
This for a vehicle that is 3+ times the price of a Corvette.
This for a vehicle that is 3+ times the price of a Corvette.
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Recently looked at a couple of new $300,000 Lamborghini's in a showroom. Was shocked that the sides of the bumper panel that wrap around to meet the fender curvature around the front wheels protruded more than 1/8 in. past where it meets the corresponding front fender panel. When you look at a side view of the car there is not a smooth curvature where the two panels meet to form the body around a front wheel.
This for a vehicle that is 3+ times the price of a Corvette.
This for a vehicle that is 3+ times the price of a Corvette.
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orange peel and Vettes are what Forrest Gump described as "peas and carrots" from my first C5 to my 6th and final C7 (retiring) it seems to be a constant....
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#70
Burning Brakes
GM can and does build cars with great fit and finish. But the bodies are made out of metal and not bolt on SMC and carbon fiber panels. As long as Corvettes are designed this way, gaps will vary and the paint will have application issues.
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Upon further reflection, those new Corvettes should have never left the Bowling Green GM Plant grounds. Embarrassing, that the Chev. dealer wouldn't repair them before putting them out on the yard for sale.
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#74
You can't compare mass-produced, metal-body cars to those with composite panels. So you have to ask yourself, do you want a better painted heavy pig, or do you want the lightest possible sports car? C7s are, on average, at least 500 lbs. lighter than any metal-bodied car on the market.
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#75
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GM's biggest problem, in IMHO, is the lack of consistency. One car is nearly perfect while the one next to it is an embarrassment. I had a C4 coupe that was a mess -- but most were in those days. My C5 coupe was much better and my current '13 C6 GS Vette convertible is really well assembled with nice paint, but the interior is cheesy.
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#76
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Sad looking cars in that lot. Even sadder will be if someone buys them not knowing any better...
As far as the German cars, I've never had a body/finish problem in 20+ years. They are really US cars, My 2 BMW's cam from Spartensburgh, SC, and my 2 Benz came from the Carolinas as well. The only
REAL import I had was a 2012 SL 550 with AMG "stuff" $ 130K range in '12, It was all 100% import, but PERFECT in every way. I have not found that on my '17 GS SE, I have a dash to door gap that
is off by 1/2 from one side to the other, hinges on my glove box need to be pushed to shut, 10% little stuff, but $ 93,000. '17 dollars was $ 130K '12 dollars there is NO comparison.
BUT, I'm having fun in the ride. GM to step up to the plate ????? Mabee with the $ 100,000-$ 125,000 Vettes we should have a separate entrance, service dept. and lounge????
As far as the German cars, I've never had a body/finish problem in 20+ years. They are really US cars, My 2 BMW's cam from Spartensburgh, SC, and my 2 Benz came from the Carolinas as well. The only
REAL import I had was a 2012 SL 550 with AMG "stuff" $ 130K range in '12, It was all 100% import, but PERFECT in every way. I have not found that on my '17 GS SE, I have a dash to door gap that
is off by 1/2 from one side to the other, hinges on my glove box need to be pushed to shut, 10% little stuff, but $ 93,000. '17 dollars was $ 130K '12 dollars there is NO comparison.
BUT, I'm having fun in the ride. GM to step up to the plate ????? Mabee with the $ 100,000-$ 125,000 Vettes we should have a separate entrance, service dept. and lounge????
#78
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With all the talk and hype about the new paint plant its disappointing to see that much OP. Glad I did not wait two years to buy mine.
BTW, my fitment on the car is excellent.
BTW, my fitment on the car is excellent.
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Agree, metal-bodied GM cars compare favorably fit and finish-wise with anything on the market today. SMC ("plastic") provides great advantages for weight savings, which is especially desirable for a high performance, sports cars. However, it is much more difficult to produce a "perfect" fit and finish w/ SMC.
You can't compare mass-produced, metal-body cars to those with composite panels. So you have to ask yourself, do you want a better painted heavy pig, or do you want the lightest possible sports car? C7s are, on average, at least 500 lbs. lighter than any metal-bodied car on the market.
You can't compare mass-produced, metal-body cars to those with composite panels. So you have to ask yourself, do you want a better painted heavy pig, or do you want the lightest possible sports car? C7s are, on average, at least 500 lbs. lighter than any metal-bodied car on the market.
After 100 years of rolling out new models, and over 60 years of building Corvettes –
New plants, new processes, new designs…..
The technology just doesn’t exist to provide a quality mass produced paint job on non metal body panels and get them to line up well…….
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GM's biggest problem, in IMHO, is the lack of consistency. One car is nearly perfect while the one next to it is an embarrassment. I had a C4 coupe that was a mess -- but most were in those days. My C5 coupe was much better and my current '13 C6 GS Vette convertible is really well assembled with nice paint, but the interior is cheesy.
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